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Originally Posted by Lou71
Gibraltar have a good leader who has worked tirelessly to look after their interests and make sure Gibraltarians have free access to Spai.
Many would disagree with you and I believe the near future will show this.
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If Gibraltar were part of the Schengen area then just the red ID card could be used.
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If Gibraltar were part of the Schengen area then just the red ID card could be used.
Gibraltar is not part of Schengen so maybe we should require Spanish residents to use passports to enter.
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Gibraltar is not part of Schengen so maybe we should require Spanish residents to use passports to enter.
Maybe, but that would be terminating the interim agreement without having signed off the final agreement, which is not something the vast majority of Gibraltarians want.

I expect the interim agreement will be given up for dead when EES comes in, because it will be unworkable with EES, will be nearly four years, and it's clear that the Conservative government in Westminister just wanted to string everyone (including Gibraltar) along for as long as possible.

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Maybe, but that would be terminating the interim agreement without having signed off the final agreement, which is not something the vast majority of Gibraltarians want.

I expect the interim agreement will be given up for dead when EES comes in, because it will be unworkable with EES, will be nearly four years, and it's clear that the Conservative government in Westminister just wanted to string everyone (including Gibraltar) along for as long as possible.
The majority of Gibraltarians would like freedom of movement, but very few would would agree to give up their British Nationality to achieve this.

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The following Answer to an Urgent Question was given in the House of Commons on Monday 11 March.

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/lords/?id=2024-03-12b.1970.2&s=Gibraltar
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
The following Answer to an Urgent Question was given in the House of Commons on Monday 11 March.

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/lords....2&s=Gibraltar
That looks like saying nothing with lots of words. What was the question?
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The majority of Gibraltarians would like freedom of movement, but very few would would agree to give up their British Nationality to achieve this.
Why would they lose British nationality? Northern Ireland has an agreement and people there aren't forced to lose British citizenship.

They have a red ID card saying they're Gibraltarian, that's surely enough.
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The majority of Gibraltarians would like freedom of movement, but very few would would agree to give up their British Nationality to achieve this.
I would gladly give up British nationality in preference to EU freedom of movement. As it happens I didn't have to but I would have no objection to it.

​​​​The current passport scanners at the border could be converted into EES SmartCheck scanners similar to the model at St Pancras and all non EU people can queue there. EU nationals, Gibraltarians and EU residents can just walk through and show their ID card (with passport if applicable) to a border guard sitting in a manual booth.

This is one hell of a lot of hassle for the grand total of zero benefits.
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Why would they lose British nationality? Northern Ireland has an agreement and people there aren't forced to lose British citizenship.

They have a red ID card saying they're Gibraltarian, that's surely enough.
My post should have referred to sovereignty

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European Commission Makes Amendment To Delegated Regulation (EU) 2016/1675

Written by YGTV Team on 15 March 2024.

The Government of Gibraltar have noted the amended EU Commission regulation table, in line with the FATF’s white-listing of Gibraltar last month, which was also followed by automatic UK delisting.

A statement from the Government follows below:

The removal of Gibraltar from the EU Commission’s table at the first opportunity is very welcome news and another proud moment for our jurisdiction.

Minister for Justice, Trade and Industry, the Hon Nigel Feetham KC MP, commented: “The swift removal of Gibraltar from the European Commission's list, subsequent to our white-listing by the FATF, serves as yet another validation of Gibraltar's position as a reputable and trustworthy jurisdiction on the global stage. We are grateful for this recognition and remain steadfast in our pursuit of maintaining and enhancing our jurisdiction's standing in the international community.”European Commission Makes Amendment To Delegated Regulation (EU) 2016/1675
Written by YGTV Team on 615 March 2024.

The Government of Gibraltar have noted the amended EU Commission regulation table, in line with the FATF’s white-listing of Gibraltar last month, which was also followed by automatic UK delisting.

A statement from the Government follows below:

The removal of Gibraltar from the EU Commission’s table at the first opportunity is very welcome news and another proud moment for our jurisdiction.

Minister for Justice, Trade and Industry, the Hon Nigel Feetham KC MP, commented: “The swift removal of Gibraltar from the European Commission's list, subsequent to our white-listing by the FATF, serves as yet another validation of Gibraltar's position as a reputable and trustworthy jurisdiction on the global stage. We are grateful for this recognition and remain steadfast in our pursuit of maintaining and enhancing our jurisdiction's standing in the international community.”
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A rare example (in this thread) that English and Spanish can coexist:



There aren't any automatic subtitles for this one, YouTube probably couldn't work out which language it was.

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Had Franco not closed the frontier in 1969 I believe this dialect would have been more prevalent in the younger generations.

On 8 June 1969, General Francisco Franco, Caudillo of Spain, shut his country's land border with Gibraltar. Just under 2 years earlier, Gibraltarians had overwhelmingly voted to remain British.

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A Spanish demand to co-manage Gibraltar’s airport "threatens to scupper a free movement deal for the Rock as part of post-Brexit talks", according to The Telegraph published this weekend. "After lengthy negotiations, Spain and Britain have agreed on a broad outline for an agreement that would create a common travel area by including the British territory within the Schengen borderless space, with joint security controls organised by Gibraltar police and the European Union’s Frontex border agency at Gibraltar’s airport and ports. The 18th round of negotiations between EU and UK officials started last week in Brussels. Negotiators are trying to finalise a deal by June, ahead of European elections that month and British elections later in the year, amid fears talks could founder long-term if that deadline is missed. But Madrid’s insistence on having joint control of the airport, which is also home to an RAF base, has become a major roadblock due to the extra logistics and security implications, The Telegraph understands." PDF. Meanwhile, No. 6 has informed GBC in response to this article that in respect of the airport and the negotiations there will be no concessions on sovereignty, jurisdiction or control
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Drought in one area letting the water go to another country.. I wonder how much under the table money passes between the 2 government officials...

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