By chance we were chatting with a friend and he told us that there is a plumber that will fit a new boiler - with a higher spec for around 300 Euros. Apparently the current boilers wont drive 2 showers simultaneously with a good presssure etc. Seems an amazing price to me.

We will do this when we have problems with the boiler......

If you call ADA and speak to Antonia - she has the information. I've lost the number though.But you can find it easy. Antonia also has info about changing to gas - see previous post above (57)

Good luck,

Jon

I've had a look at the gas bills. There are 3 items. I mentioned earlier that I would check the bills when next in CE.

Consumo gas. (Obvious). Wow the KWH of gas is far cheaper than electricity.

Then

1. Termino fijo

2. Alquiler de contador. This is the monthly rental. I pay for 2 months and its 2.44 Euro approx. Half that (approx) for a month. 1.22

This is low enough for me NOT to use bottled gas for the cost of changeover and the hassle of finding space for the bottles.

The Termino fijo is 4.35 Euro/month. What is that please? I suspect its some sort of standing charge/rental.

If it is some sort of rental then I am paying less than 6 euros +/- 5.50 a month regardless of gas usage....in total standing charges.

Still debatable as to whether we change.... but would make financial sense over a few years - with our usage. Just the hassle factor has to be counted in.

The big savings would be from installing gas central heating (I think) as the cost is so much cheaper than electricity. Heating in winter.

Or one of those movable gas bottle heater - but I think they increase humidity in the rooms, and we are very humid here normally. I hesitate to do that for the humidity.

Gas is just under 6 cents and electricity just under 15 c / KWH. Also the rental of the electricity is much higher... but you cant stop those monthly charges, like you can with using bottle gas.

to be expected when they have you by the short and curlies!!
Jon

Francisco Vera Gomez
Local number : 629105998

Hi Lloyd2012

Will you be upgrading to version 2013?

Is this the guy for the gas bottles or the new up-spec boiler please? (Or the same guy for both?) I know you moved to bottled gas.

Thanks
Jon

a little word of warning....... Having now done this we found that a gas bottle only lasted 2 weeks! The engineer came around and explained that we need to switch the pilot light off every night and relight in the morning - this seems a bit of a phaff and had i realised this, I probably would not have changed as re-lighting the pilot light is not always easy for visitors etc.

The amount of gas used by the pilot light is minimal and will make almost no difference to your overall consumption.

However if you are concerned get a boiler with electronic ignition.

Yep it's the same guy Jon.
Yep I might upgrade to a 13 soon, I still have the 2012t-shirt.

Hi Jon,

Well worth thinking about. Many thanks for helping.

Jan

Thanks Mel/Lord Mayor, Ahmed sounds as if he could be the answer. Door lock a bit temperamental, so very pleased to know a good locksmith. Always impressed by the help given on this forum.

Jan

Hi Jan

By coincidence was chatting to a friend who had exactly the same problem, cold water, luckily we had a local expert at the table and he suggested that he try a simple thing.....

Turn the water temp knob to cold!!

Apparently Fadesa sometimes reversed the connections!!

Result... IT WORKED he has hot water....

Can you believe it..... !! I hope its a simple as this for you!

The person who gave the advice is a forum member and will remember the chat .... and note that you have a free beer waiting for you!

Jon

Having read the comments about how long the gas bottles last, I was shocked to hear that they only last a couple of weeks. If this is the case then I can't see how it would be cheaper to run than the mains gas. Also there is the hassle of constantly changing the bottles, especially for guests. I am not sure that the pilot light would make any real difference to the consumption, but a friend of ours said a bottle only lasts a week for her and 3 teenagers

Does anyone else have some estimates of how long a bottle would last?

Hi Jon,

Unbelievable, I wish I was there now to give it a try. We've had hot water in the past, but never hot enough for a decent bath. Emailed ADA this weekend but now want to give this a go first.

If it works will let you know, we can't be the only ones with this problem and the drinks will be on us.

Jan

Ohmigosh! My friend is having a small period 'off the wagon' but when he gets back on it, there's a load of 'temptation' for him. We had lunch with the friends who turned the knob to cold yesterday and they still joke about the knob position!

(I take February off, and get on the wagon, as its the shortest month!!)

I really hope this works for you, Jan, if not then you have a contact ...

Jon

Thanks Jon I look forward to it..

Jon your going off topic again,( Those in the know,know your position regarding Knobs )