double post

So you are not a veggie,but spout off about does not a fish feel pain etc etc
probably while munching on a lamb chop.
So more of a Don't do as I do, do as I say type. Oh lets just say hypocrite, its easier,

That is not true, I know someone who was on the way to the airport when an American Cockie flew in, they could not find the damn thing, and so went on their merry way, when they came back the place was infested as the female had laid her eggs in the flat.

There was no food around I can assure you and the person in question has IMO a severe case of exsessive cleaning disorder, so dirty is out of the question.

you certainly got out of the bed the wrong side this morning, this isnt even Plaza de Toros and you go round being abusive to people


what has my eating habits to do with Flying with Dogs

Abusive !
I refer to the second line of your post number 27 on this thread.Another example of your hypocrisy.
As for your second comment. Reread you drivel You really cannot see irony can you?

Well.
If an airline will ship me in the hold with me dog then fine. I would do it.
If on the overhand it's not fit for me, then it sure aint for me dawg.
I have driven thousands of kms with car & van & two dogs, they just curl up & go to sleep or look out of the windows, quite happy & quite safe.
Drive simon, it's a nice trip. I am sure some one will want a vehicle taken back 'cheap' .

Suzi

Domino, we lived in Hong Kong for 13 years and eventually had to leave. I ask you, would you have done what we did and flown our lovely little dog with us or had her "put down" or worse, just abandon her?

we flew our 2 king charles back from oz 3 years ago with jetpets however they don't do europe unfortunately and i am having real trouble finding a companywho will fly them over to either barcelona or valencia,an internet trawl has not produced much luck.
Has anyone any reliable recommendations of a company flying pets over to spain, I don't want them to travel overland if I can possibly help it. However if needs must in the end we can. I think logistically driving them over ourselves will be a no no as we are looking at getting rid of our cars here in the uk before we leave.

What about Alicante?

We shipped 2 westies from Scotland to Barcelona 5 years ago. There was no direct route that would take dogs so they had to come via Frankfurt rather than on the same plane as us.

I've told our story on this site before so all I will say here is that it was a nightmare. The dogs arrived in distress. They were filthy dirty as their crates had been lined with newspaper - not by us but by the 'specialist' company we had used. Neither had any water in their crate and they were desperately thirsty because as soon as we took them out of the crates they rushed to the nearest puddle to drink.
Somehow one of them had a broken extendable lead, which was a problem because we had to walk them along the perimeter road of Barcelona airport with cars rushing past at high speed, to get to where we were parked because they wouldn't let us bring our car to the cargo hold.

All in all it was a traumatic experience I would never wish to repeat. I understand if you are travelling long distance and one way theres no choice. One of our dogs has now died but if we ever had to take the other one back to the UK, I want to drive.

As for sedating pets for airtravel. Our vet advised against it as it makes it difficult to tell when the animal is distressed.

Airlines won't fly sedated pets now. It is traumatic but if the dog is healthy they usually arrive in good condition on a short flight. We drove through France with our 2 last time as one of them was old.

If it was a very mild sedative theyd never know, but probably well worth while.

I've always avoided flying them up to now, heard too many sad tales and I don't have too much faith in the handling staff some of whom mainly outside the UK, chuck and bang the crates around like sacks of spuds.

We would do Alicante at a push but our first choices would be Barcelona Valencia Reus as we are moving out to Castellion.
I am looking at jet2 now as an option

DD like you I would have resevations about trusting handling staff,but having flown our wee dog from china to england to scotland and then to spain (the biggest cock-up was with the kennel in england) as she is a pekeingese no sedative was given (too risky for "snub nosed" dogs). She travelled well,settled quickly and has had a long life.

What the eye doesn't see the heart won't grieve over.
As long as they arrive safe and sound I imagine most ppl will never give a second thought to the pets journey.
Maybe much depends if the handlers have had a bad day at the office or happen to be dog haters rather than dog lovers.
Some may handle them with due care and attention while others don't care a toss.
There have been cases of dogs escaping at airports when crates have been burst open more than likely as a result of rough treatment.
You pays your money and you takes your chances.