Do you, like me get peed off
Jul 10th 2013 | 7:45 pm
#136
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Re: Do you, like me get peed off
It looks like I'll have to make that painful telephone call later today. It seems I have inadvertently painted the guy in a bad light, it wasn't like that.
He worked from sunrise until sundown and beyond seven days a week, paid all his dues, put employees on a proper contract, but was foolish enough to try and live an honest business life in a dishonest system he didn't understand.
He's two years away from pension status in the UK, and the whole Spanish business has made him very ill.
He worked from sunrise until sundown and beyond seven days a week, paid all his dues, put employees on a proper contract, but was foolish enough to try and live an honest business life in a dishonest system he didn't understand.
He's two years away from pension status in the UK, and the whole Spanish business has made him very ill.
If nothing else you as a good friend, will get sucked into this and then become as frustrated as he is and it will just mess with your life. As will the phone calls asking for an update, and the calls suggesting next steps to take etc etc etc etc ....
You don't need to take on his problems. You don't need all this hassle, headache etc (which could be a lot) in your life.
A good friend will understand if you say no.
Jon
PS I wonder also if a POA does in ANY way make you a party/responsible to the problems and the costs etc.
PPS you could send a link to these posts..... if that person gets stroppy!
Jul 10th 2013 | 9:57 pm
#137
FreeThinker
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 9,702
From: the moors and levels
Re: Do you, like me get peed off
I have to agree with everything here. Even if the person is a good and honest businessman, he has had a whole heap of problems. That he wants to dump.
If nothing else you as a good friend, will get sucked into this and then become as frustrated as he is and it will just mess with your life. As will the phone calls asking for an update, and the calls suggesting next steps to take etc etc etc etc ....
You don't need to take on his problems. You don't need all this hassle, headache etc (which could be a lot) in your life.
A good friend will understand if you say no.
Jon
PS I wonder also if a POA does in ANY way make you a party/responsible to the problems and the costs etc.
PPS you could send a link to these posts..... if that person gets stroppy!
If nothing else you as a good friend, will get sucked into this and then become as frustrated as he is and it will just mess with your life. As will the phone calls asking for an update, and the calls suggesting next steps to take etc etc etc etc ....
You don't need to take on his problems. You don't need all this hassle, headache etc (which could be a lot) in your life.
A good friend will understand if you say no.
Jon
PS I wonder also if a POA does in ANY way make you a party/responsible to the problems and the costs etc.
PPS you could send a link to these posts..... if that person gets stroppy!
Jul 10th 2013 | 10:44 pm
#138
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 12,053
From: In the middle of 10million Olive Trees
Re: Do you, like me get peed off
It looks like I'll have to make that painful telephone call later today. It seems I have inadvertently painted the guy in a bad light, it wasn't like that.
He worked from sunrise until sundown and beyond seven days a week, paid all his dues, put employees on a proper contract, but was foolish enough to try and live an honest business life in a dishonest system he didn't understand.
He's two years away from pension status in the UK, and the whole Spanish business has made him very ill.
He worked from sunrise until sundown and beyond seven days a week, paid all his dues, put employees on a proper contract, but was foolish enough to try and live an honest business life in a dishonest system he didn't understand.
He's two years away from pension status in the UK, and the whole Spanish business has made him very ill.
and I can understand why you threw this out to BE. It is a difficult one to call. We all have people we expect to trust, beit the BH/OH or so called professionals who are asking for an arm and a leg to be allowed to cock it up and charge the earth.
this reminds me of a friend who entered into a large supply & install contract, the client started playing around, failure to pay stage payments, so he took them to court. He got a partial win and at that time a major supplier hit him with a bankruptcy notice. The guy's solicitor had the money sitting in his bank account and grudgingly paid up 3 days before the court case to stave off the bankruptcy - but only after a call to the managing partner. Who had the gall to say it was all his fault for trading insolvently.
as I said earlier, my feeling is to run - but I am sure many of us here know that isn't your way, nor is it your way to turn your back on a friend.
Good luck with your decision, whatever it is I hope it works out well for both of you.
Last edited by Domino; Jul 10th 2013 at 10:46 pm.
Jul 10th 2013 | 11:11 pm
#139
BE Forum Addict
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,518
Re: Do you, like me get peed off
Maybe a solution for you is to agree to look at the mess and make some analysis of it. Once you have completed your analysis you could then give him a couple of recommendations as to where he goes to get it legally and professionally finalised. Trying to do it for him does not seem like a good solution unless you have some sort of legal background. In your situationI would try and help but limit my involvement.
Jul 11th 2013 | 3:39 am
#140
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Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,646
From: Near Alora....but not too near. :)
Re: Do you, like me get peed off
Maybe a solution for you is to agree to look at the mess and make some analysis of it. Once you have completed your analysis you could then give him a couple of recommendations as to where he goes to get it legally and professionally finalised. Trying to do it for him does not seem like a good solution unless you have some sort of legal background. In your situationI would try and help but limit my involvement.
Jul 11th 2013 | 5:59 am
#141
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,753
From: Alicante province
Re: Do you, like me get peed off
I made the embarrassing phone call and explained why I couldn't accept the power of attorney. I have ensured that both houses are now for sale with the most honest estate agent in the area (and I've got my fingers crossed while writing that), along with the in-house lawyer. I will continue to give any help that I can.
Some more perceptive. If the guy manages to sell both houses at the ridiculously low price he is asking for them, he will have lost £200K on the houses. He has already lost £250K on selling his businesses.
It was his life time savings from working his heart out in the UK for 40 years.
Some more perceptive. If the guy manages to sell both houses at the ridiculously low price he is asking for them, he will have lost £200K on the houses. He has already lost £250K on selling his businesses.
It was his life time savings from working his heart out in the UK for 40 years.
Jul 11th 2013 | 7:36 am
#142
BE Forum Addict
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,518
Re: Do you, like me get peed off
I made the embarrassing phone call and explained why I couldn't accept the power of attorney. I have ensured that both houses are now for sale with the most honest estate agent in the area (and I've got my fingers crossed while writing that), along with the in-house lawyer. I will continue to give any help that I can.
Some more perceptive. If the guy manages to sell both houses at the ridiculously low price he is asking for them, he will have lost £200K on the houses. He has already lost £250K on selling his businesses.
It was his life time savings from working his heart out in the UK for 40 years.
Some more perceptive. If the guy manages to sell both houses at the ridiculously low price he is asking for them, he will have lost £200K on the houses. He has already lost £250K on selling his businesses.
It was his life time savings from working his heart out in the UK for 40 years.
Jul 11th 2013 | 9:55 am
#143
BE Enthusiast
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 378
From: Here and there
Re: Do you, like me get peed off
I made the embarrassing phone call and explained why I couldn't accept the power of attorney. I have ensured that both houses are now for sale with the most honest estate agent in the area (and I've got my fingers crossed while writing that), along with the in-house lawyer. I will continue to give any help that I can.
Some more perceptive. If the guy manages to sell both houses at the ridiculously low price he is asking for them, he will have lost £200K on the houses. He has already lost £250K on selling his businesses.
It was his life time savings from working his heart out in the UK for 40 years.
Some more perceptive. If the guy manages to sell both houses at the ridiculously low price he is asking for them, he will have lost £200K on the houses. He has already lost £250K on selling his businesses.
It was his life time savings from working his heart out in the UK for 40 years.
