Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 7355002)

bloody Druid!

Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 7355017)

Do you want to be banned?????



(BTW total respect for how you dispensed with the nonsense thread so quickly - a record, methinks!!!)

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 7359400)

I think the point has been a little missed here of my original post.

Firstly, this might be the most visited thread, but it is ONE thread against the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of threads in the Spanish section which each in turn have many many posts. They are separate threads on separate subjects and therefore can be accessed easily.

The problem with this monster is that finding specific help for a newbie would be, to say the least, diffifcult.

There was no intention to decry the thread (sorry for delay, been away)... I do take exception to the poster that said the threads in the Spanish section are full of chat so they dont go there :lol:. I think you should read back through this thread! :)

The Spanish section is kept generally on topic now, whereas the siesta time is the chat area.

My original point was to warn you that at some time we will need to close it and start again ...... just for the dial up members who will find it increasingly difficult to access.

Now lets leave it at that and you can get back to chatting about CE to your hearts content :D

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 7359459)

Aperfect example of how I would hate to live in an almost totally ex-pat community.

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 7359467)

Except CE of course, because thats a Utopian society.......

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 7359459)

Aperfect example of how I would hate to live in an almost totally ex-pat community.

Originally Posted by jdr (Post 7359526)

Does "Utopian society" mean Yuppies ?

Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 7359532)

Friends of ours - a couple from Madrid - bought off-plan on one of the Ragos, as a place to use as a second home, with a view to making it permanent when youngest son finishes Uni next year. After they took possession of the house a couple of years back they intended to spend the summer there settling in. By about mid-summer, they put the property on the market and went back to Madrid. Reason - they were astonished that all their neighbours were Brits, and they were annoyed that they felt like foriegners in their own country. They don't speak any English and their neighbours didn't speak Spanish.

There are other similar stories of Spaniards pulling out as they never realised the extent of the English colony they had bought into.

Originally Posted by tonyp (Post 7359636)

Oh dear ,fancy having to live with a community of Brits ,how awful.

Perhaps they should have bought on The Costa Del Sol or The Costa Brava,or Costa Blanca or ...............the list is endless.

Maybe they should have researched more thoroughly before buying.

Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 7359709)

The Costa del Sol, the Costa Brava and Costa Blanca are not self contained housing estates like Esuri. It is perfectly possible in any one of those other costas you mention to find areas not infested with Brit expats. In Esuri you can't escape it.

They've been visiting the area every year for long before Brit invasion. They knew the area. They knew about Esuri from the outset and bought off plan on one of the first phases. It was massively promoted in Madrid, with TV ads and a high profile campaign on Madrid's metro system. They were told by the sales people that it would be an interantional community as it was attracting many foriegn enquiries, but it would or course attract many Spaniards, given the marketing campaign they had done in Madrid and other big cities. So it's fair to say they knew what they doing. What they got though was something very different to what they had been sold, given that they were massively outnumbered - and made to feel so too.


It is not unreasonable for Spanish people buying on a supposedly luxury housing estate in Spain, from a Spanish agent, to expect that they would not be made to feel like outsiders in their own country.

I can imagine some Brits would have something to say if having bought in good faith on a luxury estate in, say, Plymouth only to find when they get there it is full of Eastern Europeans/Asians/Africans [select your immigrant of choice]

Originally Posted by tonyp (Post 7359726)

So who are you blaming,us Brits ?

Originally Posted by tonyp (Post 7359726)

Presumably the Spanish had as good an opportunity to buy on Esuri as did the British.

Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 7359782)

No blame. A poster had previously said she would hate to live in an all Expat community, and the experience of my friends supported her view.



If you're talking about bricks and mortar, yes it was a level playing field. However what they had not been informed of was that they would be moving into a Brit expat enclave. Had they been told that at the beginning they would not have bought there and left it for you lot.

I'm sure there are a lot of nice properties at excellent prices in Beirut, but knowing in advance that it is a volatile area, I would steer clear, no matter how good the deal was. What they objected to was that it was not made clear at the start that Esuri would be plagued with Brits, and moreover they were lead to believe that there would be a balanced cross-section of communities represented there.

So if there is any blame from them, it would be directed at the sales staff, not the Brits