TruBrit

exactly, and the first three steps in risk assessment are ~

1. identify the hazards

2. decide who might be harmed and how

3. evaluate the risks and decide on precautions

three valuable steps to bear in mind regarding parenting.

crispy

Thank you matt, i missed that bit of news.

ezzkazz

See I wouldn't call it a risk. If anything was 'risky' you wouldn't do it in the first place if you had any common sense and I think that is what it boils down to. Your own level of common sense and responsibility.

I have my own opinions on the parents and personally I would never leave my children. I dont think that having a bite to eat takes priority over making sure my children are safe.
I think what some have said that 'they should rot in hell' well thats a bit extreme, also 'well they would have taken her, whatever, whether the parents were there or not' well those kind of comments are just speculation. How can you make that kind of assumption when no-one knows the real reason why she was taken.

I was one of many to condemn the parents and most of what I said was anger that it was allowed to happen and I still havent changed my opinion. Having said that, I do feel that the parents will have to live with this for the rest of their lives whatever the outcome and their lives will never be the same again and for this reason my thoughts are with them and their little girl.

I hope they find they find her but as each day passes its looking less likely.

Mitzyboy

Sorry to say you hit the nail on the head. it clearly is a risk, as demonstrated by whats happened, and has happened before, and will happen again.

Ka Ora!

Yes some will never learn by other peoples mistakes. My little boy learnt that fires were hot not because i told him it was hot he had to put his fingers in it he said it looked pretty and he wanted to play with it.

Mercedes

Well they didn't take her out for ice cream and a trip to the Circus did they? If they broke in according to some reports, and didn't take money or any other valuables, nor the younger children but her specifically then I would say that since she is incredibly pretty and photogenic it would be by a pedophile for his own gratification or more sinister for a gang where she will be used by pedophiles, photoed for child porn and later sold into prostitution for older men...if she lives that long. The only other option is that the man with her mother isn't her father, and she is a case custody, and he has lost and lives in another country and snatched her which is another common cause of abduction, so again the motivation would be there as whoever would be paid on delivery. Whichever she was the target and they wanted her in particular. If a pedophile lusted after her he would do what was necessary to get her, if a gang wanted her to make money out of her she would fetch a very high price so another motivation to get her whatever...and the same if the father isn't her natural father....which if he is then that takes that theory out of the frame then.

Trafficking of women and children for sex slavery (ie against their will) is a billion pound business and there is a demand for both and the younger they are, the more money they fetch. I know because I'm involved in trafficking of women and children with some governments who are trying to stop it. I'm hoping she hasn't gone down that route as what those women and children go through is a parents worst nightmare and then some.

rugbymatt

just to clarify, the Tapas bar was only about 50 meters from the apartment, they have just been talking about it on the news.

Ka Ora!

France24 measured it family issues big thing here but it was 178 meters.

rugbymatt

definitely 50.

kaylee

I know it's living in the 'real world' but some of these posts make difficult reading

Ka Ora!

Rounded up or down

I thought this was virtual you know weird wired web n'all

jackytoo

"This is how it feels when you realize your child is missing: The pit of your stomach freezes fast while your legs go to jelly. There's one single, blue-bass thud of your heart. The shape of her name, sharp as metal filings, gets caught between your teeth even as you try to force it out in a shout. Fear breathes like a monster in your ear: Where did I see her last? would she have wandered away? who could have taken her? and then finally, your throat seals shut, as you swallow the fact that you've made a mistake you will never be able to fix." From the book The Tenth Circle by jodi Picoult.

Don't be judgemental, to say the parents deserve it is like wishing for something bad to happen (if it hasn't already)

kez81

No we cant watch our kids 24hours a day, but to leave then asleep in a apartment is wrong if you go on the sun website there is a photo of where the apartment is situated its not a few yards away there is a pool and tennis court dividing them!!! as far as i aware they have done this every night it's obvious someone was watching them.


i just hope this little girl is found safe and sound.

kezx

lynnxa

not evil............just with a total lack of common sense to think that it's OK to leave 3 very young kids alone, even for a minute

jeanc

i,m not saying they deserve it at all, and i don't think anyone on this forum is. What we are saying is that it should not have happened, those children should not have been left alone. The parents have got to live with the concequences of their actions for the rest of their lives and that i feel is punishment enough. But so has that little girl!!