Mitz, I'm merely saying that as the police say to us, we mustn'y use excessive force. That applies to them too.

You shoot a burglar in the front, who is a real threat to you, i's ok, it's self defence. Shoot him in the back, it's murder.

If Duggan didn't fire at them, then shooting him was.........(Please insert word)

and lying about it was ................... (please insert word)

everyone seems to remember that there was a totally peaceful demonstration about the incident (I believe made up of mostly women (and children?) ) The riot came after that. the rioters were not part of the original demonstration.

have you considered a conspiracy theory in that riots in other places in London in sympathy would be stretching it but in places like Bristol and Birmingham ? ?

Hell yes is a strange answer because treating people differently is what causes the problems, positive discrimination was one of the biggest social disasters of our time and created so much dissatisfaction with virtually all the population.
A few english speaking coppers is hardly what we are talking about and to call it a analogy is hardly scientific.

Graham

Agreed.

Graham

I doubt whether anyone in their right mind believes that the riots have anything at all to do with the Duggan incident.

Graham

So all protests should be banned, we should enlist a massively aggressive response and what? Have them shouting 'Kill the n*ggers?'

That's right, and that blazing petrol drum has nothing to do with the idiot that lit a cigarette while standing next to it.

Didn't we all! Bil hates the world, but especially the police and the clergy, they top his very long list. And Spain was to supposed to make him happy, imagine how he must have been back in UK.

I believe that the law of the land states that to carry a firearm is illegal, end of arguement, expect what you get. I am sure that if you were in the position of a copper facing someone with a gun you would have the guts to go up to him and say "hand over the gun please."
Yeah right, in this day and age a long time you would last.
Why is it that the people that have the most to say about it are the least likely to put themselve in that position.

Graham

Then by your arguement all riots should be allowed.
Nice twist to what is really being said.

Graham

I have only read reports on the internet but local people appear to be bitterly complaining about the rioters but then I suppose that they do not have a clue either.
I am no great lover of the police but we would be up the creek without them and I bet the real locals are counting their blessings that the coppers are there to help, I know I would.

Graham

Oh do crawl back under your stone.

Glad to see you give support to church and state so freely and without check.

I bet they love you.

I think you will find I criticise bent coppers and bent priests. Do please explain why that is wrong?

Blimey, that's a quantum leap in illogic!

I say that peaceful protest should be allowed. I say that my bet is that government will use the current events to stamp down on peaceful protest.

OK, now I'd like you to explain please how in saying that I am actually saying all riots 'should be allowed'.

This ought to be entertaining.

that supposed "admission of guilt" is caused by an investigating team endeavouring to ensure they get all the information together and tell the truth about what happened. This takes time.
this is being balanced against instantaneous communication systems for media and others who wish to force their own personal agenda.

despite everything, I believe the police will say sorry if a mistake has happened. I do not believe that to be the case with those who went round setting fire to vehicles (police or other) buildings and looting.

attacking the police trying to stop the violence is one thing, attacking the fire officers who are trying to put out the fires before they escalate to other buildings is another.
some people only got out of their flat above a shop when they smelt the burning. 2mins later they would have been dead.

On the good side, Lord Harris of Carpetright has said that he will do all he can for those from the 28 flats over the torched shop. "if it wasnt for the shop they may well still have their homes"

Despite all this, the UK police are still the best in the world, which is, in itself slightly worrying.

No-one, except those with a vested interest wants to see a riot, and those involving themselves in criminal activity under the guise of protest, should be identified and punished appropriately.

Oh yeah, bent and criminal coppers too, of course, don't you agree?