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Old Nov 4th 2011 | 3:28 am
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Originally Posted by John & Kath
£120 pw is about right for a full UK State pension so that's about £7250 pa and if we average the exchange at £1 : €1,10 that's about €8000 pa. I heard that the full Spanish pension was about €1000 pm so about €12000 pa.

This squares with the fact that the standard UK State pension is one of the lowest in Europe. Lower even than some of the East European new members. It's OK if you qualify and can have all the top ups and add on's such as pension credit and housing benefit then I guess it is about the same as the Spanish pension but of course a UK State pensioner does not qualify for the add on's
my converter brought it to nearly 600 a month & yes, Spanish pensioners get a bit more than that

they don't get all the other 'top ups' that a UK pensioner living in the UK would get though, as you say

I did see something somewhere (if I could remember where I'd post it) which worked out that even though the basic UK pension is low - with all the add-ons (which aren't that hard to qualify for) it is actually quite high compared to most other countries
 
Old Nov 4th 2011 | 3:33 am
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Originally Posted by John & Kath
£120 pw is about right for a full UK State pension so that's about £7250 pa
The current single state pension is only £97/wk (£5044pa) but many people get the equivalent of the current "second pension" - it used to be called SERPs etc.

I currently get a total state pension of about £178 - that's about €11000
 
Old Nov 4th 2011 | 3:34 am
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Originally Posted by lynnxa
my converter brought it to nearly 600 a month & yes, Spanish pensioners get a bit more than that

they don't get all the other 'top ups' that a UK pensioner living in the UK would get though, as you say

I did see something somewhere (if I could remember where I'd post it) which worked out that even though the basic UK pension is low - with all the add-ons (which aren't that hard to qualify for) it is actually quite high compared to most other countries
There are all sorts of obstacles put in your way the first of which is assets. House, car, savings, etc £23,000 and that's it
 
Old Nov 4th 2011 | 3:36 am
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There was a programme on canal sur and all the pensioners interviewed were getting nowhere close to average. The average is pushed up by public sector workers. Many spanish elderly get around 400 euros pm and there are no top-ups.
 
Old Nov 4th 2011 | 3:40 am
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Originally Posted by Fred James
The current single state pension is only £97/wk (£5044pa) but many people get the equivalent of the current "second pension" - it used to be called SERPs etc.

I currently get a total state pension of about £178 - that's about €11000
Wow! how do you do that! I have £97 + what serps I earned before contracting out and a small addition for caring before reaching 65. Total £118.50. Kath has earned a 66% State in her own right so we get the grand total about £200 pw.
 
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
There was a programme on canal sur and all the pensioners interviewed were getting nowhere close to average. The average is pushed up by public sector workers. Many spanish elderly get around 400 euros pm and there are no top-ups.
Yeah, too right.......

You only get out what you put in for a Spanish pension.

Everyone bleats on about how well off Spanish pensioners are comparted to UK counterparts,

I would say, either you are bllind or dont know many Spanish pensioners, of course I will expect the "but they get free/cheap holidays" remarks.

And a free holiday is no good, when the roof in caving in......
 
Old Nov 4th 2011 | 3:56 am
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Originally Posted by John & Kath
Wow! how do you do that! I have £97 + what serps I earned before contracting out and a small addition for caring before reaching 65. Total £118.50. Kath has earned a 66% State in her own right so we get the grand total about £200 pw.
My wife also earned 60% pension in her own right but also gets the SERPS extras - that adds up to £151/wk (£7850pa).

Between us we get £330/wk which at 1.15 exchange is nearly €20000.

It just goes to prove that the quoted basic pension rates are not necessarily representative of what some people get.
 
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Originally Posted by Fred James
My wife also earned 60% pension in her own right but also gets the SERPS extras - that adds up to £151/wk (£7850pa).

Between us we get £330/wk which at 1.15 exchange is nearly €20000.

It just goes to prove that the quoted basic pension rates are not necessarily representative of what some people get.
But there are thousands nay millions who do much worse and many are caught in the asset trap with an expensive house and just the basic state pension to get by on and the worst thing "to dam proud to claim all they are entitled too", all governments acknowledge this but do nothing to sort it.
 
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There is an e-petition currently on-line:-

"To pay a state pension in line with the rest of the EU which is 11.2% GDP. And above the poverty level."

Sadly it has only received 149 signatures so far!

It was originated by Pensioners Campaign UK but not supported by many it seems.
 
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Originally Posted by JLFS

Everyone bleats on about how well off Spanish pensioners are comparted to UK counterparts,

I would say, either you are bllind or dont know many Spanish pensioners, of course I will expect the "but they get free/cheap holidays" remarks.


I've just been walking this afternoon in one of our local seaside resorts, loads of buses full up with Saga Louts arriving, could be trouble in town tonight! The holidays certainly aren't free, but it's the cheap, out of season period, and there seems to be no shortage of punters out for a fun week.
 
Old Nov 4th 2011 | 5:57 am
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Originally Posted by John & Kath
But there are thousands nay millions who do much worse .
True, but there are millions who do better.

I get a better pension because I have contributed more into the system in terms of NI contributions and taxes. Seems fair to me!
 
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Originally Posted by Fred James
My wife also earned 60% pension in her own right but also gets the SERPS extras - that adds up to £151/wk (£7850pa).

Between us we get £330/wk which at 1.15 exchange is nearly €20000.

It just goes to prove that the quoted basic pension rates are not necessarily representative of what some people get.
Where do you get an exchange rate of 1.15? Just had money over with Currencies Direct today and we got 1.11.
 
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I got 1.1517 on my company pension on the 1st. Citibank.
 
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Originally Posted by chrisjolly
I am now receiving my State Pension from the UK and having spoken to someone in the DWP when I was there does anyone know if there are any allowances one can obtain whilst living in Spain as they do not seem to know..
If you have children up to 16 or in fulltime education, you can claim child allowance and child tax credits. Not available outside the uk unless one of you is receiving a pension.
 
Old Nov 4th 2011 | 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by Chiclanagir
Where do you get an exchange rate of 1.15? Just had money over with Currencies Direct today and we got 1.11.
Paid direct from the UK into our Spanish account.

The average exchange rate last year was 1.15. The official rate for tax purposes was 1.16.

I got 1.14 last week for a UK cheque paid into my Spanish bank.
 


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