Please keep up to speed ;-) Apparently they (his lawyers) have now changed their strategy, it now appears it was (according to them) a consensual escapade. Reading that I'm assuming that there is now some reliable DNA evidence which implicates him.

After reading about some of his past escapades I must be honest and say I'm felling a sensation of schadenfreud at his predicament

Personally I think he is a (insert here any negative adjective you like)

Yes they are as evil as the people that commit rape[/QUOTE]

Violence of any kind sould be punished severely. I'd be happy to see it double the sentance given for the same crime without violence.

As for Rape, a very sticky field. People can get a taste for it, so for people who do it a second time it should carry the kind of sentance that will require them being issued with a zimmer frame.

False accusation? For a start that is perjury. I consider it a VERY serious crime, and I consider it isn't treated seriously enough. There should be a sentance attached that reflects the seriousness of the false accusation, ie a similar term to what the poor sod they lied about would have got, plus serious financial penalties to reflect the damage done to someone's reputation by the false accusation.

A woman who lies about rape does other women a great disservice.

That immediately makes me think 'Guilty as hell'

You see, it's interesting ....... the guy is guilty already because partly of stuff in newspapers, which we all know is always true

If it was consensual or not, only the two of them really know unless there were witnesses, and it will be down to a court to decide ....... but of course the chances of him getting a fair trial after all this are about zero.

A woman who lies about rape does other women a great disservice.[/QUOTE]

Yes I agree with your view but as you say and as Rosemary also mentioned the difficulty is often getting people to come forward and pursue the matter and I believe that is the reason that prosecutions do not follow false allegations, I am not saying that's the right thing by the way. I do believe without doubt if it has been proved to be a definite false acusation action a prosecution should follow and they should loose the right to anonymity.
One point to remember is that in this day and age it is not just females that get raped (probably never was) male rape is very prevalent in some areas which often compounds the problem of a male wanting to pursue a court case depending on their situation / sexual orientation.

Whatever the outcome of the trial - his political career is finished.

Actually I'm basing my opinion not on what is in the papers but on what a friend of mine who moves in quite high French socialist circles said when I asked her about him she said... "the guy is insane, and a real sex addict. It was well known in the socialist milieu, that if you were a woman, you'd better make sure you wouldn't find yourself alone with DSK, espacially in lifts. Burk, burk"

Perhaps he'll get the same sort of fair trial that OJ got ;-)

Fair comment .... but what I said still applies I'm afraid.

I think the finer details of what did or did not happen should in the first instance be left for the Courts to discuss and decide.
However by now he has been virtually hung,drawn and quartered, the chances of a fair trial are about zilch and in the unlikely event he walked away from it, he is finished as chairman of the IMF, a possible future president or in virtually all future forms of public life.
If found guilty in a fair trial then he does deserve all the above and much,much more, but in view of all that has been said and speculated in addition to his nationality, the possibility of a fair trial no longer exists.

I agree that people shouldn't be found guilty before the trial, as it were, but when someone has acted in such a fashion, there have been previous 'events' and so on, people can hardly be criticised for viewing the case with a jaundiced eye.

The various press reports and some of the comments on this interesting thread somehow reminded me of the past.

It reminded me of the Christians sent in to fight the lions in Rome, before a cheering audience; the French peasants cheering when yet another bloody head fell from the guillotine, and the baying mob watching yet another public hanging outside the Old Bailey in London, not that many years ago.

And the last black man was lynched in Georgia, in the Land of the Free, in 1956.

An English mob attacked a paediatrician outside his home in England, about six years ago, because they didn't know the difference between a paediatrician and a paedophile.

Frightening stuff for a cheese eating surrender monkey banged up in New York.

Yeh, I note they are keeping a round the clock suicide watch on him and the way things are going I imagine it could already have crossed his mind.

Yes I agree with your view but as you say and as Rosemary also mentioned the difficulty is often getting people to come forward and pursue the matter and I believe that is the reason that prosecutions do not follow false allegations, I am not saying that's the right thing by the way. I do believe without doubt if it has been proved to be a definite false acusation action a prosecution should follow and they should loose the right to anonymity.
One point to remember is that in this day and age it is not just females that get raped (probably never was) male rape is very prevalent in some areas which often compounds the problem of a male wanting to pursue a court case depending on their situation / sexual orientation.[/QUOTE]

What I found was that it was harder for the male to tell anyone about the rape. If he was a serviceman he also found it hard to gain medical assistance because they did not want to go to their MO within whichever service they were in. Men who phoned to talk to a counsellor took longer to actually state that they had been raped and thought that they would not be believed as it is generally presumed that rape happens to women not men.

Rosemary

Looking at today´s headlines the GB government is totally behind ensuring rapists have long prison sentences. I know that there are different degrees of rape but that is not the way I read the article.

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.a...ntid=157589840

Its all getting very strange now, they are reporting that the maid found out days later who he was, that she had no idea who he was before the incident... well thats fine, but hold on, we were told that he fled the room leaving his mobile phone and ran to the airport and was arrested even as the plane taxied... so.... how did we now get to finding out days later?