After Brexit
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Where do I start? There's many. But a few trillion in global trade with the single market, the large global businesses (read: employers) operating in the UK specifically for that reason (e.g., automakers, finance), are good starting examples.
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I have to agree with Lurchio.On Brit.TV there is constant talk about having a "transitional" period which each day seems to stretch longer & longer.Honestly,do the British Govn.think the other EU countries are quite happy to say"Take all the time you need to ease in all the alterations you want to make".That is really "cake & eat it"thinking.
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That's very true but no way can this mess ever be sorted out and ratified in 2 years. So I really think some sort of extension or transitional period will be required for all in reality. The whole dam thing is an absolute mess.
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Agreed, its not realistic at all, but the UK started the clock, and theres 20 months left with no sign of clearing the first hurdles and now its holiday time ! You couldn't write it! Damn mess as you said, sad though. We all know it takes two to tango, but now its twenty odd dancers and some of them are nifty movers! Get a bloody wiggle on!
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Agreed it is an absolute mess with much more to come. All down to complacency of the various leaders in the EU and our own Cameron. Like a bad marriage far easier to just drift on and make do ( without having to make reforms or even recognising that things werent all good) than get divorced and make a fresh start. ( Brexit - unknown ground ) . The real bad guys here are the fools that didnt see it coming and make reforms. ( making a failing marriage work )
Lets hope a win win scenario is the outcome ( amicable divorce and still remaining friends) .
Lets hope a win win scenario is the outcome ( amicable divorce and still remaining friends) .
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I personally doubt it will be win win. The EU will continue with or without the UK. The UK will of course carry on but in the rest of my lifetime I fear will be in turmoil. I have no faith whatsoever in those we have trying to sort this out let alone negotiate to our benefit with the likes of America. However we are where we are. Cameron should have stood up to his right wingers and simply governed which is what he was voted in for rather than seek approval by way of a referendum.
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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-treat...reaties-online
The EU is also insisting that the UK must continue to pay child benefit after we have left. Currently the UK pays child benefit of about £50million to Polish children the majority of which have never been to the UK. Go whistle does seem appropriate.
The UK seems to have gold-plated the legislation to apply to all children with EEA nationality wherever they are in the EEA, instead of children with EEA nationality who are resident in the UK. The UK could have put this nonsense to rest years ago if it wanted to.
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A post brexit map...
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If you are going to post a graphic, please make sure it is readable. Your attempt was totally unreadable.
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Oh ye of little knowledge, No it wasnt, click on the graphic to expand it... looks perfect from here. If you know of a way of sharing directly a hi res in this forums s/w do share?
Last edited by uk_grenada; Jul 28th 2017 at 12:04 pm.
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If you get Spanish citizenship, why wouldn't you get free movement across the EU. You'd be a national of an EU member state, with all the rights of one.
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It was certainly not readable when first posted. It enlarged OK, but was very low res. Possibly a temporary forum glitch-
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The map may be outdated already if Dublin gets what it wants? Seems a bit like a United Ireland by the back door, Theresa's new friends I doubt will like this?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7863986.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7863986.html
Last edited by bobd22; Jul 28th 2017 at 8:49 pm.
#44
Agreed it is an absolute mess with much more to come. All down to complacency of the various leaders in the EU and our own Cameron. Like a bad marriage far easier to just drift on and make do ( without having to make reforms or even recognising that things werent all good) than get divorced and make a fresh start. ( Brexit - unknown ground ) . The real bad guys here are the fools that didnt see it coming and make reforms. ( making a failing marriage work )
Lets hope a win win scenario is the outcome ( amicable divorce and still remaining friends) .
Lets hope a win win scenario is the outcome ( amicable divorce and still remaining friends) .
They knew what a mess it was going to be (or they should have - it was said often enough) and yet they still voted for it.
It's no-one's fault but theirs.
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You'd have thought the UK govt would have had a master plan BEFORE triggering Article 50. In fact you'd have thought the UK govt would have had a master plan well BEFORE calling the binary vote referendum.
Delusional indeed.




