Originally Posted by scot47

The religion that really hacks me off is Celebrity-worship. Now prevalent in the decadent West.

I'll stick with Mithras.

Originally Posted by scot47

Most Saudis and most Muslims are, I am sure, as horrified as we are. The reality is that in KSA you cannot just say what you think !

My contacts tell me the story was not widely reported in the Arabic language media.

Originally Posted by shiva

no not state religion, just religion full stop. Given the prevalence across nations, geography and time I'd say there is a pretty compelling case against all religions.

Originally Posted by Scamp

I blame China.

Originally Posted by Paracletus

Some weird stuff in the bible about this.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...21&version=NIV

Originally Posted by shiva

no not state religion, just religion full stop. Given the prevalence across nations, geography and time I'd say there is a pretty compelling case against all religions.

Originally Posted by scot47

The religion that really hacks me off is Celebrity-worship. Now prevalent in the decadent West.

I'll stick with Mithras.

Originally Posted by Norm_uk

Those Celebrity Worshipping suicide bombers are a huge problem. And the Celebrity Worshippers going around telling people in British towns to cover up and not drink in 'Celebrity Worshipping areas' really worry me.

N.

Originally Posted by Norm_uk

But the bible, and especially the laws that are not part of the so called ten commandments form no basis for legal systems. Even the most Orthodox Jew who follows odd laws from the Law of Moses wouldn't do this in the 20th Century.

Sharia Law (however interpreted) forms the basis of law in Saudi and most Islamic states, governing everything sexual relations to financial dealings, inheritance and divorce. Whilst the Koran clearly doesn't allow people to take laws into their own hands the fact is many of people who die because of so called 'honour killings' would be punished in some way by a Sharia court anyway...and most of the time the scum who commit these crimes are quietly protected by their peers and legal system.

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Originally Posted by redShark

You can't be more wrong. The state of Israel was founded upon the teaching of the Bible. Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced, wars were fought, and all of that was a direct result of implementing this Biblical law, and, yes ... it was all done in the 20th Century

Originally Posted by redShark

You can't be more wrong. The state of Israel was founded upon the teaching of the Bible. Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced, wars were fought, and all of that was a direct result of implementing this Biblical law, and, yes ... it was all done in the 20th Century

Originally Posted by shiva

no not state religion, just religion full stop. Given the prevalence across nations, geography and time I'd say there is a pretty compelling case against all religions.

Originally Posted by Paracletus

I find the 'eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth' an antiquated and barbaric idea. This thread is interesting, as it shows alot of the posters who share a very worrisome similarity to the most brutal aspects of a barbaric ideology currently trying to expand it's influence on a global scale. Would any of them attend one of the decapitations performed in public in KSA or Iran if they could? I'd rather not have that in Europe, if anything, the justice system and view of crime and punishment is truly one of the things which makes me proud to be associated with European culture and civilization. Punishment, including death, does not rid the world of crime..nor does a soft approach to punishment and eventual reintegration back into society create more crime. Countries with low crime rates tend to be generally equal societies, which perhaps explains why Britain has so much of it compared to other northern european countries.