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-   -   Questions for BEARD MAN ???????????? (https://britishexpats.com/forum/sand-pit-116/questions-beard-man-538143/)

Worldismine May 23rd 2008 4:07 am
Re: Questions for BEARD MAN ????????????
 
Originally Posted by Worldismine (Post 6385335)
I have the answer in my head, but it it would take an essay to communicate it. So to be brief. The emphasis of the Quran is on action as opposed to culture.
All the sins mentioned on the list have at one time or another been considered sinful in all cultures. Even today, most would be considered immoral, wrong or criminal in the west

Worldismine May 23rd 2008 4:09 am
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Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 6385398)
don't you mean converts?
its a I say tomato you say tomayto kinda thing

Inselaffen May 23rd 2008 4:10 am
Re: Questions for BEARD MAN ????????????
 
Originally Posted by shakh your bootie (Post 6385358)
It can be - it really depends on the family, the country, the circumstance....

I hate to sound like a snob, but educated, middle class Asians tend to be a lot more progressive than villagers......
My best friend is married to an educated Asian from a wealthy family but he has not even told his family because she is white european. They even tried to hold him hostage on one trip back to his country by removing his passport so he could not go back to her. He had to get a friend of his to get him a new passport so he could return to Europe.

They have told him that they don't mind him marrying her as a second wife but he must marry a local girl of their choosing.

Inselaffen May 23rd 2008 4:14 am
Re: Questions for BEARD MAN ????????????
 
Originally Posted by Worldismine (Post 6385427)
its a I say tomato you say tomayto kinda thing
not at all. there is a huge difference between a revert and a convert.
the word revert intrinsically implies that the person was a muslim prior to denouncing Islam and then finding it again.

I believe you chose the word carefully!

Worldismine May 23rd 2008 4:17 am
Re: Questions for BEARD MAN ????????????
 
Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 6385434)
My best friend is married to an educated Asian from a wealthy family but he has not even told his family because she is white european. They even tried to hold him hostage on one trip back to his country by removing his passport so he could not go back to her. He had to get a friend of his to get him a new passport so he could return to Europe.

They have told him that they don't mind him marrying her as a second wife but he must marry a local girl of their choosing.
This is cultural. Marrying a local girl is a practice carried out by Asians of all religions.

Inselaffen May 23rd 2008 4:18 am
Re: Questions for BEARD MAN ????????????
 
Originally Posted by Worldismine (Post 6385411)
All the sins mentioned on the list have at one time or another been considered sinful in all cultures. Even today, most would be considered immoral, wrong or criminal in the west
but the majority of the sins are cultural/moral based restrictions from which the west has advanced through periods of enlightenment. Blindly following strict medieval restrictions means that society will remain medieval by nature!

Inselaffen May 23rd 2008 4:20 am
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Originally Posted by Worldismine (Post 6385481)
This is cultural. Marrying a local girl is a practice carried out by Asians of all religions.
it is nothing but thinly veiled racism!

shakh your bootie May 23rd 2008 4:34 am
Re: Questions for BEARD MAN ????????????
 
Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 6385488)
but the majority of the sins are cultural/moral based restrictions from which the west has advanced through periods of enlightenment. Blindly following strict medieval restrictions means that society will remain medieval by nature!
I agree with you there - the difference between the fundamentalist Islamist approach to Shariah Law is that it's principles are immutable and eternally correct. I believe that certain authorities within some Islamic countries have attempted to append case law and legal precedence to Islamic jurisprudence (Fiqh in Arabic) - even this is split between a number of different schools of thought.

There are a number of voices from within the Islamic world that call increasingly for a seperation of religion and state, arguing that this is a necessary pre-requisite to stabalizing the countries of the Middle East.

Even here in the UAE they have established a Civil Code which they try to make work in tandem with Shariah Law - it's a messy compromise and full of inconsistencies.

Worldismine May 23rd 2008 4:37 am
Re: Questions for BEARD MAN ????????????
 
Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 6385501)
it is nothing but thinly veiled racism!
Sorry if it came across like that. What i meant was that its a tribal thing that has nothing to do with Islam.

Eva May 23rd 2008 4:39 am
Re: Questions for BEARD MAN ????????????
 
Originally Posted by shakh your bootie (Post 6385314)
Arranged marriages are not necessarily so terrible - I know a lot of Asians (Muslim, Sikh and Hindu) who went down that route and have ended up with what appear to be happy relationships. Then again, I've seen arranged marriages fail, I've seen non-arranged marriages fail.

For a lot of Asian kids, the pressure to please the family is very strong - but it doesn't make it an invalid life choice to allow your partner to be selected by your family/community, particularly if you're planning to spend your life entrenched in that community.

Freedom - it's a wonderful thing, but it ain't everyone's cuppa coacoa....

Yeh, sometimes for sure, better the devil you don't know

Eva May 23rd 2008 4:42 am
Re: Questions for BEARD MAN ????????????
 
Originally Posted by Worldismine (Post 6385032)
Non speaka di English


That's a cop-out!
P.S Where were you born ? Remind me please

shakh your bootie May 23rd 2008 4:50 am
Re: Questions for BEARD MAN ????????????
 
Originally Posted by Eva (Post 6385648)
Yeh, sometimes for sure, better the devil you don't know
Devil, eh? That's going through the SYB Freudian analyser as we speak....

Eva May 23rd 2008 4:57 am
Re: Questions for BEARD MAN ????????????
 
Originally Posted by shakh your bootie (Post 6385729)
Devil, eh? That's going through the SYB Freudian analyser as we speak....

crystals or lithium batteries?

shakh your bootie May 23rd 2008 5:33 am
Re: Questions for BEARD MAN ????????????
 
Originally Posted by Eva (Post 6385763)
crystals or lithium batteries?
Neither. Bovine-sourced methane.

Eva May 23rd 2008 5:38 am
Re: Questions for BEARD MAN ????????????
 
Originally Posted by shakh your bootie (Post 6385919)
Neither. Bovine-sourced methane.

hahahahahaahahhahah -euwyuk how the flames can be instantly doused

Ps..I am beginning to think Beardy walla is another member incarnate


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