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Good memory .....a case I followed for years ....

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M = really sorry to hear that - thats terrible for any parent to endure.


But as you say everyone reacts/acts differently and I dont think we should be finding them guilty on their actions

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oh no, dont get me wrong, my wife wanted to be near family, it took me 2 years to shed a tear, i still find it hard now, all i am saying is they seem odd the way they are handling it. i have an open mind on things like this, but when the truth comes out fully i think people will be shocked,

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if memory serves me right they only found her push bike in a country lane

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Apologies to the nice Portuguese lady who posted earlier - but this has got the words 'framed by the police' tattooed all over its forehead........[/QUOTE]

I usually don't reply to answers but I think you should read this article. And it wasn't a portuguese newspaper which wrote it...

http://www.people.co.uk/news/news/tm...name_page.html

It was just my opinion. I hope you're right and they're not guilty.
And I sincerely hope that Portugal isn't a third world country where its police plants evidences on crime scenes...

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Correct... back in 1978....

Its generally believe that Robert Black was her killer ..and others
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_...(serial_killer)

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Mythic,

I cannot even begin to imagine what you and your wife went through when you lost your daughter - which makes your restrained reply to MH's comment all the more admirable. (MH my love - did you mean that to sound as harsh as it did?)

Mythic, I think she missed the point you were making - that there is supposed to be a 'right way to grieve' but in fact everyone reacts differently.

My cynicism about the Portuguese police (which only one or two people in this neck of the woods seem to share) has been reinforced by the latest developments. If the leaked rumour about the 'deal' Mrs McCann was offered is true, one wonders - why now? And why let them leave now?

If she/they are guilty of murder, they could easily have 'given up hope' weeks ago and returned to the UK, the police (though not officially) would have dropped the case and she/they would have got away with it. They kept putting themselves in the headlines, the media spotlight, etc...... this is not the behaviour of a murderer........

MH dismissed my comment about questioning the twins ("too young to give evidence" etc). Formally, in a court of law - yes, MH, you're right. But wouldn't it have been interesting if the nice Mr Policeman had said to one of them 'What happened to Maddy' and received a very frank answer....... it wasn't a serious comment by me though, because I have no faith in the police anyway.

Elsewhere it is even being suggested that Mrs killed Maddy withour Mr knowing about it.......... as the Monty Python team used to say: "This is getting very silly". It would be if it were not so tragic.

And as I said before, the real tragedy is that Maddy may still be alive, but as of this moment I suspect the Portuguese police are not looking for her - instead, they are just building a case against Mrs McCann.

If the McCanns are guilty, the police should have determined that weeks ago.

If they are innocent, a disgraceful miscarriage of justice may happen BECAUSE of the police.

Either way - the police emerge with no credit whatsoever.

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well as of 2 hours ago police are sending files to prosecutors, thanks for the comments mate, was 26 years ago, but sadly she was born sept 13th and died oct 13th so it is hard. i am afraid the police will look for the easiest way to solve it.

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Did you really intend to write this? You can be extremely insensitive sometimes but I guess it may just be a linguistic thing...

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yes, I did really intent to write this.
When I lost my daughter, I grieved my way, and anyone who tells me or others that they are grieving the wrong way piss me off, cause that is what I call insensitive.
(and Mythic and myself are ok over this by the way)

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And also for you, yes I did exactly mean it the way I said it.
There is no right way to grieve, it's a personal thing. All these people that judge someone because they still put on earrings or wear make up and therefore cannot be grieving properly....what a load of crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can sort of understand people saying it, who have not been through it, cause how would you know differently, but for someone who has lost a child still to be able to say there is something weird about their grieving annoys me.
Anyway, we PMed about it and thats the end of it as far as I am concerned.
This is just a general observation though, nothing to do with Madeleines mother being guilty or not.
I have said it on another thread, but I will repeat it here, when my daughter died, I still showered, put on make up, nice clothes etc...doing the normal day to day things, the familiar routines makes a life that is otherwise spinning out of control bearable.

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Please accept my sincere apologies for being an ignorant jerk...I had no idea you had also lost a child. However, whereas I agree with you that a mother carrying on with her life as normal may be acceptable, the McCanns seem in my view to have gone slightly overboard with their papal visits, fund raising and media (Paris Match) interviews. However, what do I know about how to behave on such occasions. All I have lost have been my parents, not quite the same thing.

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Like I said...the whole McCanns thing is irrelevant to the point I am making, which is about grief and how there isn't a right or wrong way.

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Yes, some like to share their grief while others prefer to bottle it up inside. All I can say is that, whatever your personal preference, bottling it up inside can be harmful in the long run. A problem shared is a problem halved is what my mum always told me.

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easy there... since when has a country's wealth affected the propensity of its police to frame up an easy target?


Oh, interesting to hear how the story is playing out back home: links to various columns in the Sunday papers (Telegraph, Indy, Observer) plus apparently (not read this one yet) a brief comment on the British media's xenophobic misunderstanding of the Portuguese legal system by Marcel Berlins in today's Guardian.

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/greensla..._a_global.html