Egyptian resort hotel bans alcohol and creates women only floor.
May 7th 2013, 9:58 am
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Re: Egyptian resort hotel bans alcohol and creates women only floor.
I don't have a perception of life in Europe, I lived in various parts of the UK for over 40 years and in North Germany for 6 years. So I have experienced at first hand what life is like in Europe. Would you care to elucidate on your experience or are you basing your 'facts' on perceptions?
I have more or less a similar experience as yours, I've lived in different places too, but may be the difference between us is that I have always hailed an advice from the prophet of Islam which is:
‘Wisdom is the quest of the believer, where ever he finds it he should follow it’.
Quite Interesting what this thread is turning into though, it is now not a discussion about ideologies, it has rather become a debate on which people are better, which is not my area of interest.
May 7th 2013, 10:02 am
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If your quran was perfect you wouldn't need hadiths or thousands of scholars trying to interpret it for you. It would be perfectly clear and not open to interpretation instead of open to dozens of interpretations for whatever suits your purpose.
One single example you ask? Islam is the religion of peace yes? Why do so many of it's followers wish to kill people who do not follow it, or issue fatwas on people?
And you're already an aethist because I bet you don't believe in Thor, Ra, Apollo, Aphrodite, Brahma, Cernunos, Demeter etc. etc. or any of the other thousands of gods which have been worshipped over the years. You just need to not believe in one more.
One single example you ask? Islam is the religion of peace yes? Why do so many of it's followers wish to kill people who do not follow it, or issue fatwas on people?
And you're already an aethist because I bet you don't believe in Thor, Ra, Apollo, Aphrodite, Brahma, Cernunos, Demeter etc. etc. or any of the other thousands of gods which have been worshipped over the years. You just need to not believe in one more.
islamic scholars explains the quran , because many muslims dont know arabic and dont know the some historical informations .
yes islam is the religion of peace , dont you see , were insulted me in this forum many times because I'm a muslim , but I'm still quiet and respectful .
yes its true maybe there are ignorant people around the islamic world , but its not mean islam is bad , extremism about everything , not only islam . try to see the good things of muslims did . if I want to see bad things of christian or other people did , I can find many things . be objective .
May 7th 2013, 10:04 am
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Sure every body knows what the problem is (despite of all these undefendable claims on here). The compelling question is, what is the solution? I am afraid to say that, in a Godless culture there is no solution
May 7th 2013, 10:05 am
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Re: Egyptian resort hotel bans alcohol and creates women only floor.
nope , we dont need to hadiths , already many hadiths changed in time .
islamic scholars explains the quran , because many muslims dont know arabic and dont know the some historical informations .
yes islam is the religion of peace , dont you see , were insulted me in this forum many times because I'm a muslim , but I'm still quiet and respectful .
yes its true maybe there are ignorant people around the islamic world , but its not mean islam is bad , extremism about everything , not only islam . try to see the good things of muslims did . if I want to see bad things of christian or other people did , I can find many things . be objective .
islamic scholars explains the quran , because many muslims dont know arabic and dont know the some historical informations .
yes islam is the religion of peace , dont you see , were insulted me in this forum many times because I'm a muslim , but I'm still quiet and respectful .
yes its true maybe there are ignorant people around the islamic world , but its not mean islam is bad , extremism about everything , not only islam . try to see the good things of muslims did . if I want to see bad things of christian or other people did , I can find many things . be objective .
May 7th 2013, 10:08 am
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Re: Egyptian resort hotel bans alcohol and creates women only floor.
I really, really cannot see how anyone with a brain can argue that point. I have said that it can definitely contribute but again, cannot be considered the sole culprit for some of the things listed.
I think, if I remember correctly, that Qu'ran says that if you follow Islam you shouldn't judge other people....
May 7th 2013, 10:21 am
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Re: Egyptian resort hotel bans alcohol and creates women only floor.
I have more or less a similar experience as yours, I've lived in different places too, but may be the difference between us is that I have always hailed an advice from the prophet of Islam which is:
‘Wisdom is the quest of the believer, where ever he finds it he should follow it’.
‘Wisdom is the quest of the believer, where ever he finds it he should follow it’.
May 7th 2013, 10:22 am
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May 7th 2013, 10:23 am
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May 7th 2013, 10:27 am
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May 7th 2013, 10:33 am
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Didn't know saladhin was a Turk
May 7th 2013, 10:52 am
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the first thing I dont care so much as a chechen he was a turk or arab or another . I read many thing about him and there is no evidence that he wasnt a turk but there are many evidence that he was a turk , already it doesnt matter what race he was , he was a real muslim .
Salahaddin was on middle east , but Turks were anatolia , and crusades were destroyed before they didnt move down to middle east from constantinople . Only a small part of them was able to down to the south .
Salahaddin was on middle east , but Turks were anatolia , and crusades were destroyed before they didnt move down to middle east from constantinople . Only a small part of them was able to down to the south .
May 7th 2013, 10:56 am
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Re: Egyptian resort hotel bans alcohol and creates women only floor.
Good grief. Just caught up with this thread.
So if I've got it right, the Muslim world is perfect doesn't need anyone or anything from the West and Westerners are all wholy dependent on alcohol, are all raving alcoholics and in the wrong as we largely don't believe a work of fiction written over 1,400 year ago which was also some 20 years after the death of this alleged prophet?
So if I've got it right, the Muslim world is perfect doesn't need anyone or anything from the West and Westerners are all wholy dependent on alcohol, are all raving alcoholics and in the wrong as we largely don't believe a work of fiction written over 1,400 year ago which was also some 20 years after the death of this alleged prophet?