Dog sentenced to be stoned to death
#46
Re: Dog sentenced to be stoned to death
Much like you can’t believe in negating wrongdoing after death when considering moral philosophy; you can’t consider religious questions without considering that there may be a god. I don’t believe that renders self-examination on religious or philosophical questions beyond the ability of ordinary people regardless of their belief system.
The up side to considering such questions is a more profound reconciliation of your choices in life with your beliefs, the down side is that you’ll always feel culpable for your choices in life and you will forever struggle with the choices you make. No going back though once you’ve eaten the forbidden fruit, hence the serpents warning “…for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”
#47
Joined: Jun 2011
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Re: Dog sentenced to be stoned to death
Actually in realtity what usually results is a tit-for-tat argument which no-one can win and both sides blatantly ignore the other sides point of view and it gets boring pretty fast.
#48
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#51
Re: Dog sentenced to be stoned to death
Amazing how you've had time to read enough of my 3800+ posts that I've made since December of 2004 to know that. You are a truly remarkable reader who should be commended.
It's not my problem you find polemics or factual statements inflammatory...if you don't like what I say debate me or ignore me. No sweat.
N.
#52
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 227
Re: Dog sentenced to be stoned to death
You're not looking for a heated debate but you're happy to say almost half my posts are inflammatory? And you've been posting here for how long exactly?...less than a month
Amazing how you've had time to read enough of my 3800+ posts that I've made since December of 2004 to know that. You are a truly remarkable reader who should be commended.
It's not my problem you find polemics or factual statements inflammatory...if you don't like what I say debate me or ignore me. No sweat.
N.
Amazing how you've had time to read enough of my 3800+ posts that I've made since December of 2004 to know that. You are a truly remarkable reader who should be commended.
It's not my problem you find polemics or factual statements inflammatory...if you don't like what I say debate me or ignore me. No sweat.
N.
#53
Re: Dog sentenced to be stoned to death
What's not nice? New forum members who are so full of arrogant presumption about me based on a few posts that they feel the need the take them to task over it?
Or perhaps you mean it's not nice to give stupid beliefs and ideologies respect just because some people choose to or are brainwashed into believing them, regardless of the evidence?
N.
Or perhaps you mean it's not nice to give stupid beliefs and ideologies respect just because some people choose to or are brainwashed into believing them, regardless of the evidence?
N.
#54
Re: Dog sentenced to be stoned to death
That is kind of the way you have to approach these things. What if someone offered you substantial evidence, outweighing evidence against gods existence (or often more accurately the lack of evidence to corroborate claims about god), that god was real? If such evidence came to light then I would have to reverse my position and dig out my Sunday best suit/dishdasha/meditation matt (assuming god wanted me to worship and live according to a religious code, unfortunately your still a bit stuck believing in god but not knowing which so you should probably ask).
Much like you can’t believe in negating wrongdoing after death when considering moral philosophy; you can’t consider religious questions without considering that there may be a god. I don’t believe that renders self-examination on religious or philosophical questions beyond the ability of ordinary people regardless of their belief system.
The up side to considering such questions is a more profound reconciliation of your choices in life with your beliefs, the down side is that you’ll always feel culpable for your choices in life and you will forever struggle with the choices you make. No going back though once you’ve eaten the forbidden fruit, hence the serpents warning “…for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”
Much like you can’t believe in negating wrongdoing after death when considering moral philosophy; you can’t consider religious questions without considering that there may be a god. I don’t believe that renders self-examination on religious or philosophical questions beyond the ability of ordinary people regardless of their belief system.
The up side to considering such questions is a more profound reconciliation of your choices in life with your beliefs, the down side is that you’ll always feel culpable for your choices in life and you will forever struggle with the choices you make. No going back though once you’ve eaten the forbidden fruit, hence the serpents warning “…for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”
This is why errors in philosophy are usually pitiful and stupid whereas errors in religion are often dangerous.
N.
#55
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 227
Re: Dog sentenced to be stoned to death
What's not nice? New forum members who are so full of arrogant presumption about me based on a few posts that they feel the need the take them to task over it?
Or perhaps you mean it's not nice to give stupid beliefs and ideologies respect just because some people choose to or are brainwashed into believing them, regardless of the evidence?
N.
Or perhaps you mean it's not nice to give stupid beliefs and ideologies respect just because some people choose to or are brainwashed into believing them, regardless of the evidence?
N.
As for me you don't need to worry about me bothering you again.
Cheers
#56
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Re: Dog sentenced to be stoned to death
So approximately how much cannabis does it take to kill a dog?
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#58
Re: Dog sentenced to be stoned to death
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#59
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 227
Re: Dog sentenced to be stoned to death
What concerns me is that you seem to have set yourself up as your own God and you come across, at times of thinking you are omnipetent, have all the answers and are never wrong. I do not see you asking questions only providing detailed historical answers. You seem to lack humility and in the case of discussing Muslims and other religious groups humanity because you blend everyone together.
We discussed Islamophobes the other day and I pointed out that Judeaphobes also exist, this did not seem to meet with your agenda so you ignored the point.
I am aware of the irony in all this, as you said I have not read all of your nearly 4,000 posts and I am sure that you are a decent bloke. Unfortunately when people discuss religion, which you frequently do, the decency tends to go out of the window.
This has become a long post and I want to finish by reinforcing that I am not a religious man. I responded to your posts because I saw you belittling peoples beliefs and in some cases making racist remarks (I do not say that to be offensive just stating fact), this is abhorrent behaviour to me on the internet or in real life. There is nothing personal in it I would have taken anybody else to task for stating similar things.
Regards,
WakeUp
Nb. I would like to see a reporting function on this board, even a simple thumps up or thumbs down to posts so that people can express how they feel about some of the more emotive comments made.
#60
Re: Dog sentenced to be stoned to death
As for history - well it is possible to at least try to be impartial and to focus more on contemporary over secondary sources. In any case if someone has an issue with any of my facts I'm happy to debate that and change my position if proven wrong.
What concerns me is that you seem to have set yourself up as your own God and you come across, at times of thinking you are omnipetent, have all the answers and are never wrong. I do not see you asking questions only providing detailed historical answers. You seem to lack humility and in the case of discussing Muslims and other religious groups humanity because you blend everyone together.
I mostly focus on what they believe in, or rather their religion and don't tend to stray from the original source when making statements. Muslims are a fairly diverse bunch, many don't even know their scriptures (the same can be said for Christians and Jews to a lessor extent) and I'd wager for at least half Islam is more of a cultural construct than a spiritual experience.
Oh, and the very nature of polemics makes humility rather pointless. If some people cannot handle criticism perhaps the ideology they cling to isn't very secure.
No one calls me a "Stalinphobe" if I criticise the policies of that mad ideology. I've yet to be called a "fascistphobe" either...so what makes Islam so special it is above criticism? There's a question for you.
This has become a long post and I want to finish by reinforcing that I am not a religious man. I responded to your posts because I saw you belittling peoples beliefs and in some cases making racist remarks (I do not say that to be offensive just stating fact), this is abhorrent behaviour to me on the internet or in real life. There is nothing personal in it I would have taken anybody else to task for stating similar things.
N.