Burka Ban
Apr 19th 2011, 2:21 pm
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Re: Burka Ban
I assume she doesn't want to get tanned or be photographed in a swimsuit, but you'd think she could find a better solution. It looks awful.
Apr 19th 2011, 3:08 pm
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Re: Burka Ban
That book can be bought in the shops here...
Apr 19th 2011, 3:23 pm
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Re: Burka Ban
Anyhow, I was quite amazed to see that Lulus have got some really lovely burkinis - properly feminine with the tunic ending in a really pretty skirt. I find it interesting also, that the little girl's swimsuits there all seem to come with shorts-legs or little skirts.
Apr 19th 2011, 3:37 pm
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Re: Burka Ban
her face looks photoshopped on.
Anyhow, I was quite amazed to see that Lulus have got some really lovely burkinis - properly feminine with the tunic ending in a really pretty skirt. I find it interesting also, that the little girl's swimsuits there all seem to come with shorts-legs or little skirts.
Anyhow, I was quite amazed to see that Lulus have got some really lovely burkinis - properly feminine with the tunic ending in a really pretty skirt. I find it interesting also, that the little girl's swimsuits there all seem to come with shorts-legs or little skirts.
Apr 19th 2011, 3:46 pm
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Re: Burka Ban
I know, I was just ... anyway thanks Meow. I don’t want to mess about with you 
Despite the fact that I have not acquired your services just yet I have great respect for your IFS credentials and wouldn’t bore you with my silly humour.
Despite the fact that I have not acquired your services just yet I have great respect for your IFS credentials and wouldn’t bore you with my silly humour.
Apr 19th 2011, 3:57 pm
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Re: Burka Ban
Quite right about Hitler - there is the argument that before the war the Nazi's were firmly in bed with the Soviets (the propaganda similarities are astounding) but that's by the by.
I think Marx is flawed in that his view of society is based on the tail end of the Victorian era and the injustices that existed then. Sometimes when you hear Marxists screaming and yelling about capitalism you have to wonder if they live in the 19th or 21st Century with it's modern medicine, more universal suffrage, equal rights laws and far higher standards of living. It seems more about finding something to be bitter about and advocating violent or underhand means to achieve the goal of forced equality than any kind of movement for social good in most cases.
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I think Marx is flawed in that his view of society is based on the tail end of the Victorian era and the injustices that existed then. Sometimes when you hear Marxists screaming and yelling about capitalism you have to wonder if they live in the 19th or 21st Century with it's modern medicine, more universal suffrage, equal rights laws and far higher standards of living. It seems more about finding something to be bitter about and advocating violent or underhand means to achieve the goal of forced equality than any kind of movement for social good in most cases.
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And then there's the thing about violent protest. These angry, almost always young and male rent-a-mobs give every cause they apparently stand for a bad name. They find a cause they like and swear loyalty to it like a football team and like nothing more than a bit of a rumble. And the peaceful ones get caught up in it and tarred with the same brush.
Apr 19th 2011, 7:10 pm
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Re: Burka Ban
I may have posted this before ... Can't remember. Enforced leisure is making me stupid ... ANYWAY
tons of Saudis at aquaventure including many, many women in niqab/abaya/shayla and many varieties of burkinis. Women were in the pool in full abaya gear. My five year old was perplexed and asked why all these women were wearing "black tenty things" at a waterpark and why the boys didn't ever wear them. I have never talked about abayas with her,although she did ask my emirati friend why she covered her hair outside. When you look at it through the eyes of a five year old it does seem ludicrous. Personally, I can't get to grips with the whole black sack thing. The same friend's mum refuses point blank to cover - she has bright orange hair and wears brightly coloured tops with long trousers and see through loose scarves. Interestingly she wears the leather burka when she goes out but she says that's to do with it shading her eyes and stopping sand going in her mouth. She says she's worn it for years but she will never wear the abaya as no-one in her family had to when they were younger (the family has lived in abu dhabi all their lives. My fridnd's dad was a fisherman and by all account his life was hard and they really struggled). She still wears what she considers to be traditional dress and was openly cackling at the other ladies when they got ready to go out and promptly put their abayas and shaylas on. Two of her sons are married to westerners and she thinks it's hysterical that they cover up more than she does. I found her fascinating.
tons of Saudis at aquaventure including many, many women in niqab/abaya/shayla and many varieties of burkinis. Women were in the pool in full abaya gear. My five year old was perplexed and asked why all these women were wearing "black tenty things" at a waterpark and why the boys didn't ever wear them. I have never talked about abayas with her,although she did ask my emirati friend why she covered her hair outside. When you look at it through the eyes of a five year old it does seem ludicrous. Personally, I can't get to grips with the whole black sack thing. The same friend's mum refuses point blank to cover - she has bright orange hair and wears brightly coloured tops with long trousers and see through loose scarves. Interestingly she wears the leather burka when she goes out but she says that's to do with it shading her eyes and stopping sand going in her mouth. She says she's worn it for years but she will never wear the abaya as no-one in her family had to when they were younger (the family has lived in abu dhabi all their lives. My fridnd's dad was a fisherman and by all account his life was hard and they really struggled). She still wears what she considers to be traditional dress and was openly cackling at the other ladies when they got ready to go out and promptly put their abayas and shaylas on. Two of her sons are married to westerners and she thinks it's hysterical that they cover up more than she does. I found her fascinating.
Apr 19th 2011, 7:38 pm
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Re: Burka Ban
I may have posted this before ... Can't remember. Enforced leisure is making me stupid ... ANYWAY
tons of Saudis at aquaventure including many, many women in niqab/abaya/shayla and many varieties of burkinis. Women were in the pool in full abaya gear. My five year old was perplexed and asked why all these women were wearing "black tenty things" at a waterpark and why the boys didn't ever wear them. I have never talked about abayas with her,although she did ask my emirati friend why she covered her hair outside. When you look at it through the eyes of a five year old it does seem ludicrous. Personally, I can't get to grips with the whole black sack thing. The same friend's mum refuses point blank to cover - she has bright orange hair and wears brightly coloured tops with long trousers and see through loose scarves. Interestingly she wears the leather burka when she goes out but she says that's to do with it shading her eyes and stopping sand going in her mouth. She says she's worn it for years but she will never wear the abaya as no-one in her family had to when they were younger (the family has lived in abu dhabi all their lives. My fridnd's dad was a fisherman and by all account his life was hard and they really struggled). She still wears what she considers to be traditional dress and was openly cackling at the other ladies when they got ready to go out and promptly put their abayas and shaylas on. Two of her sons are married to westerners and she thinks it's hysterical that they cover up more than she does. I found her fascinating.
tons of Saudis at aquaventure including many, many women in niqab/abaya/shayla and many varieties of burkinis. Women were in the pool in full abaya gear. My five year old was perplexed and asked why all these women were wearing "black tenty things" at a waterpark and why the boys didn't ever wear them. I have never talked about abayas with her,although she did ask my emirati friend why she covered her hair outside. When you look at it through the eyes of a five year old it does seem ludicrous. Personally, I can't get to grips with the whole black sack thing. The same friend's mum refuses point blank to cover - she has bright orange hair and wears brightly coloured tops with long trousers and see through loose scarves. Interestingly she wears the leather burka when she goes out but she says that's to do with it shading her eyes and stopping sand going in her mouth. She says she's worn it for years but she will never wear the abaya as no-one in her family had to when they were younger (the family has lived in abu dhabi all their lives. My fridnd's dad was a fisherman and by all account his life was hard and they really struggled). She still wears what she considers to be traditional dress and was openly cackling at the other ladies when they got ready to go out and promptly put their abayas and shaylas on. Two of her sons are married to westerners and she thinks it's hysterical that they cover up more than she does. I found her fascinating.
Apr 20th 2011, 12:21 am
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Re: Burka Ban
Apr 20th 2011, 5:33 am
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Re: Burka Ban
I may have posted this before ... Can't remember. Enforced leisure is making me stupid ... ANYWAY
tons of Saudis at aquaventure including many, many women in niqab/abaya/shayla and many varieties of burkinis. Women were in the pool in full abaya gear. My five year old was perplexed and asked why all these women were wearing "black tenty things" at a waterpark and why the boys didn't ever wear them. I have never talked about abayas with her,although she did ask my emirati friend why she covered her hair outside. When you look at it through the eyes of a five year old it does seem ludicrous. Personally, I can't get to grips with the whole black sack thing. The same friend's mum refuses point blank to cover - she has bright orange hair and wears brightly coloured tops with long trousers and see through loose scarves. Interestingly she wears the leather burka when she goes out but she says that's to do with it shading her eyes and stopping sand going in her mouth. She says she's worn it for years but she will never wear the abaya as no-one in her family had to when they were younger (the family has lived in abu dhabi all their lives. My fridnd's dad was a fisherman and by all account his life was hard and they really struggled). She still wears what she considers to be traditional dress and was openly cackling at the other ladies when they got ready to go out and promptly put their abayas and shaylas on. Two of her sons are married to westerners and she thinks it's hysterical that they cover up more than she does. I found her fascinating.
tons of Saudis at aquaventure including many, many women in niqab/abaya/shayla and many varieties of burkinis. Women were in the pool in full abaya gear. My five year old was perplexed and asked why all these women were wearing "black tenty things" at a waterpark and why the boys didn't ever wear them. I have never talked about abayas with her,although she did ask my emirati friend why she covered her hair outside. When you look at it through the eyes of a five year old it does seem ludicrous. Personally, I can't get to grips with the whole black sack thing. The same friend's mum refuses point blank to cover - she has bright orange hair and wears brightly coloured tops with long trousers and see through loose scarves. Interestingly she wears the leather burka when she goes out but she says that's to do with it shading her eyes and stopping sand going in her mouth. She says she's worn it for years but she will never wear the abaya as no-one in her family had to when they were younger (the family has lived in abu dhabi all their lives. My fridnd's dad was a fisherman and by all account his life was hard and they really struggled). She still wears what she considers to be traditional dress and was openly cackling at the other ladies when they got ready to go out and promptly put their abayas and shaylas on. Two of her sons are married to westerners and she thinks it's hysterical that they cover up more than she does. I found her fascinating.
Apr 20th 2011, 5:49 am
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Re: Burka Ban
Exactly. I was at a photography exhibition a few months ago at which the pictures were all of Dubai some 40-50 years ago. The women were dressed in brightly patterned loose dresses, which was something of a contrast with the many black clad viewers. And yet they claim it's their culture as well as religion.