Anyone on here converted (embraced) Islam?
#121
Re: Anyone on here converted (embraced) Islam?
Generally always turns out the same when religious apologetics try to defend their 'faith'. It would be much easier if they simply admitted that they have no proof etc. etc. but they just believe because they enjoy what religion offers them. End of argument statement because you can't argue against that. But no no no, we always end up on a hamster wheel.
#123
Re: Anyone on here converted (embraced) Islam?
I've come to the conclusion that it's virtually impossible to have a proper debate on the internet. It's basically arguing with anonymous people who can say whatever they want to a captive audience. Still entertaining to watch, though.
#124
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Re: Anyone on here converted (embraced) Islam?
Mikewot does not know his stuff! Mikewot posts randomly selected stuff without understanding. Following is from the Old Testament which was superseded by the New Testament and is not taken as a moral reference but a historical document:
The following is from the New Testament......
..... and does not indicate any sort of corporal punishment which is not surprising as the philosophy of the New Testament was to move away from corporal punishment and towards spiritual punishment by denying access to kingdom of heaven.
Mike, you get an F for this 'effort'. Pay more attention the next time.
Proverbs 6:32
He who commits adultery lacks sense; he who does it destroys himself.
Leviticus 20:10
“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
Deuteronomy 22:22
“If a man is found lying with the wife of another man, both of them shall die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman. So you shall purge the evil from Israel.
Deuteronomy 20:23
20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.
22 If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.
23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you
He who commits adultery lacks sense; he who does it destroys himself.
Leviticus 20:10
“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
Deuteronomy 22:22
“If a man is found lying with the wife of another man, both of them shall die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman. So you shall purge the evil from Israel.
Deuteronomy 20:23
20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.
22 If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.
23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you
1 Corinthians 6:9
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality.
Revelation 2:22
Behold, I will throw her onto a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her works,
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality.
Revelation 2:22
Behold, I will throw her onto a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her works,
Mike, you get an F for this 'effort'. Pay more attention the next time.
#125
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Re: Anyone on here converted (embraced) Islam?
Generally always turns out the same when religious apologetics try to defend their 'faith'. It would be much easier if they simply admitted that they have no proof etc. etc. but they just believe because they enjoy what religion offers them. End of argument statement because you can't argue against that. But no no no, we always end up on a hamster wheel.
#126
Re: Anyone on here converted (embraced) Islam?
But all the religious books and manuscripts were written by a bloke!
A few stories here and there to get the uninformed and uneducated to believe in an omnipotent deity.
Bottom line was though, they were still written by a bloke.
I'm going to start praying to the Wizard of Oz. Some bloke wrote it, so it must be true.
Now where's my Louboutins?
A few stories here and there to get the uninformed and uneducated to believe in an omnipotent deity.
Bottom line was though, they were still written by a bloke.
I'm going to start praying to the Wizard of Oz. Some bloke wrote it, so it must be true.
Now where's my Louboutins?
#127
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Re: Anyone on here converted (embraced) Islam?
But all the religious books and manuscripts were written by a bloke!
A few stories here and there to get the uninformed and uneducated to believe in an omnipotent deity.
Bottom line was though, they were still written by a bloke.
I'm going to start praying to the Wizard of Oz. Some bloke wrote it, so it must be true.
Now where's my Louboutins?
A few stories here and there to get the uninformed and uneducated to believe in an omnipotent deity.
Bottom line was though, they were still written by a bloke.
I'm going to start praying to the Wizard of Oz. Some bloke wrote it, so it must be true.
Now where's my Louboutins?
Still, at least nine of us worked today, on the sabba....oh.
#128
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Re: Anyone on here converted (embraced) Islam?
You really don't get how science works do you?
What really fascinates me is that people like yourself seem to believe its possible to just pick and choose which bits of science you deem to be accurate or true. Ignoring the fact you lack the knowledge to determine this is the first place, how do you do this?
Climate change is a conspiracy yet you feel safe to type on some device and post on the Internet. As though one is somehow a dangerous lie and the other innocuous. How do you arbitrarily decide this? No really how?
I assume you don't worry that you car will explode tomorrow morning when you start it or that your phone will electrocute you that gravity will hold you down when you get out of bed.
The scientifically illiterate seem to be wilfully ignorant of the fact that you can't and don't get to choose that which is true.
What really fascinates me is that people like yourself seem to believe its possible to just pick and choose which bits of science you deem to be accurate or true. Ignoring the fact you lack the knowledge to determine this is the first place, how do you do this?
Climate change is a conspiracy yet you feel safe to type on some device and post on the Internet. As though one is somehow a dangerous lie and the other innocuous. How do you arbitrarily decide this? No really how?
I assume you don't worry that you car will explode tomorrow morning when you start it or that your phone will electrocute you that gravity will hold you down when you get out of bed.
The scientifically illiterate seem to be wilfully ignorant of the fact that you can't and don't get to choose that which is true.
Last edited by Desert Dubliner; Feb 24th 2013 at 5:53 pm.
#130
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Re: Anyone on here converted (embraced) Islam?
But let me tell you one thing. What if you (and me, I don't believe either) are wrong all all those who believe are right. They go to heaven and you go to hell. So there's a benefit - you have little to lose by believing.
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Re: Anyone on here converted (embraced) Islam?
#132
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So let's test this premise. You are out walking with your 5 year old daughter and I decide to parade completely naked in front of you. You will not cover her eyes, judge my behavior and perhaps even call the cops (as this is illegal). Which brings me to my next point - you will support (actively or passively) my new 'Let's Walk Naked' party?
#133
Re: Anyone on here converted (embraced) Islam?
Mikewot does not know his stuff! Mikewot posts randomly selected stuff without understanding. Following is from the Old Testament which was superseded by the New Testament and is not taken as a moral reference but a historical document:
The following is from the New Testament......
..... and does not indicate any sort of corporal punishment which is not surprising as the philosophy of the New Testament was to move away from corporal punishment and towards spiritual punishment by denying access to kingdom of heaven.
Mike, you get an F for this 'effort'. Pay more attention the next time.
The following is from the New Testament......
..... and does not indicate any sort of corporal punishment which is not surprising as the philosophy of the New Testament was to move away from corporal punishment and towards spiritual punishment by denying access to kingdom of heaven.
Mike, you get an F for this 'effort'. Pay more attention the next time.
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Re: Anyone on here converted (embraced) Islam?
Again, as with most half-baked entries on this thread, the devil is in the detail.