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Re: UK Migration has to stop
Originally Posted by Editha
(Post 11678178)
Actually Bud, living in 'the sunshine state' does put you at a disadvantage when commenting on the state of Britain's infrastructure.
For example, just at this moment, I'm having breakfast in a hotel overlooking the Thames, courtesy of a TV company. I travelled into London yesterday, using a transport infrastructure that seemed to be working fine to me. I'm being served by waiters, who from their complexions and accents, are all immigrants, as was the taxi driver I who brought me here. They don't appear to be 'putting a strain on infrastructure and services'; in fact they appear to be the infrastructure and services.
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11678219)
To be fair to Bud, it's fairly widely acknowledged by the politicians that the schools and health services are currently strained by the increased immigration. Whether that means pulling up the drawbridge or building more services is a different argument.
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Re: UK Migration has to stop
Originally Posted by themajor
(Post 11678271)
If the population was several million less then there would be enough beds,dr's,nurses,teachers,schools, etc etc. Just think back in time before all the MILLIONS of imigrants came here. Remember how we saw the Dr when we went the surgery, we did not have to make an appointment. Remember how when you were refered to a Consultant you saw him within a few days not several months. Remember when the school class rooms were only 12-15 pupils per lesson. The schools of nursing had waiting lists. All before the MILLIONS of immigrants came. Whem accident and Emergency was what it was for and not for patients who cannot get to see the Dr. remember when there was FREE dental care for everyone.
I got referred to a consultant as a kid in the early 70s, I remember my mum moaning about the 3 month wait.And in the 80s I had a 6 month wait. Our GP was an immigrant actually, just remembered that, he lodged with us for a while after he came in on a boat ....from Cork :thumbsup: So out of interest, on what date did the MILLIONS of immigrants arrive? :sneaky: |
Re: UK Migration has to stop
Originally Posted by themajor
(Post 11678271)
If the population was several million less then there would be enough beds,dr's,nurses,teachers,schools, etc etc. Just think back in time before all the MILLIONS of imigrants came here. Remember how we saw the Dr when we went the surgery, we did not have to make an appointment. Remember how when you were refered to a Consultant you saw him within a few days not several months. Remember when the school class rooms were only 12-15 pupils per lesson. The schools of nursing had waiting lists. All before the MILLIONS of immigrants came. Whem accident and Emergency was what it was for and not for patients who cannot get to see the Dr. remember when there was FREE dental care for everyone.
My children are still in class sizes of 12-15, and both my husband and I have seen a consultant within a week or so of seeing our GP recently. So that's a couple of things less to blame those damn immigrants for eh? |
Re: UK Migration has to stop
Good grief x2.
That's really living in the mythological past, Major. |
Re: UK Migration has to stop
Originally Posted by themajor
(Post 11678271)
If the population was several million less then there would be enough beds,dr's,nurses,teachers,schools, etc etc.
Just think back in time before all the MILLIONS of imigrants came here. Remember how we saw the Dr when we went the surgery, we did not have to make an appointment. Remember how when you were referred to a Consultant you saw him within a few days not several months. Remember when the school class rooms were only 12-15 pupils per lesson. The schools of nursing had waiting lists. All before the MILLIONS of immigrants came. When accident and Emergency was what it was for and not for patients who cannot get to see the Dr. remember when there was FREE dental care for everyone. according to the GMC in the UK near 40% of doctors & nurses are from outside the UK which are needed to fill the void. Now if only the UK could stop the emigration NHS hires up to 3,000 foreign-trained doctors in a year to plug staff shortage | Society | The Guardian On school class sizes, not so - back when I was in primary school living in a metropolitan area, it was always 40/class in an all boys school, my wife confirms it was the same in hers also. On a GP to specialist consultation - it was never quick, months as I remember it back in the 50's early 60's |
Re: UK Migration has to stop
I will close the door behind me.
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Re: UK Migration has to stop
Originally Posted by themajor
(Post 11678628)
I will close the door behind me.
now, come on, you can't close the door on this one, after all you opened it, so, do enlighten us more with what you know about mass immigration numbers to the UK, after all ...'Knowledge is the adornment and protection of the Empire' While you're at it, just for the heck of it - when was it you last lived as an ordinary resident in the UK? Likely life in general, including the healthcare is better in Cyprus than the UK ;) - it sure is for me living here in the colonies :thumbup: |
Re: UK Migration has to stop
Britain's 50 years of immigration mapped: How Blair's decision to open the borders to Eastern Europe changed the face of the UK
Fifty years of immigration mapped: How Blair’s decision to open the borders to Eastern More than a third of all migrants living in Britain are now white Europeans - including over half a million Poles - a new government study has revealed. Overall, there are 7.5 million people living in England and Wales who were born outside the UK - making up some 13 per cent of the population. But where previously Britain's migrant population was dominated by ethnic minorities from Commonwealth countries - mainly the Caribbean, Pakistan, Bangladesh and India - almost a third are now registered 'white' and moved to the UK from the continent. Before 1981, 485,000 migrants moved to the UK from the Indian sub-continent - more than twice the number of Europeans. Between 1981 and 2000, the numbers arriving from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh had fallen slightly to 420,000 - but were still more than those moving to the UK from the continent. However, in the years after 2001 the number of migrants from the EU rocketed. Overall, around 1.5million migrants moved to the UK from Europe - compared to just 600,000 from south Asia. |
Re: UK Migration has to stop
OK, not bad
so have some fun to see just how real immigration is. click on the tab marked... Map: Total Immigrant and Emigrant Populations by Country International Migration Statistics | migrationpolicy.org as a percentage of population https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List...on#2013_report . |
Re: UK Migration has to stop
Originally Posted by themajor
(Post 11678690)
Britain's 50 years of immigration mapped: How Blair's decision to open the borders to Eastern Europe changed the face of the UK
Fifty years of immigration mapped: How Blair’s decision to open the borders to Eastern More than a third of all migrants living in Britain are now white Europeans - including over half a million Poles - a new government study has revealed. Overall, there are 7.5 million people living in England and Wales who were born outside the UK - making up some 13 per cent of the population. But where previously Britain's migrant population was dominated by ethnic minorities from Commonwealth countries - mainly the Caribbean, Pakistan, Bangladesh and India - almost a third are now registered 'white' and moved to the UK from the continent. Before 1981, 485,000 migrants moved to the UK from the Indian sub-continent - more than twice the number of Europeans. Between 1981 and 2000, the numbers arriving from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh had fallen slightly to 420,000 - but were still more than those moving to the UK from the continent. However, in the years after 2001 the number of migrants from the EU rocketed. Overall, around 1.5million migrants moved to the UK from Europe - compared to just 600,000 from south Asia. As I said before we do need more controls now, but what is your suggested solution to those already in UK?? Those ethnic minorities who came in the 60s/70s are now reaching the end of their lives!! Does this make the situation better or worse?? |
Re: UK Migration has to stop
Originally Posted by not2old
(Post 11678506)
rubbish & you know it, then again
according to the GMC in the UK near 40% of doctors & nurses are from outside the UK which are needed to fill the void. Now if only the UK could stop the emigration NHS hires up to 3,000 foreign-trained doctors in a year to plug staff shortage | Society | The Guardian On school class sizes, not so - back when I was in primary school living in a metropolitan area, it was always 40/class in an all boys school, my wife confirms it was the same in hers also. On a GP to specialist consultation - it was never quick, months as I remember it back in the 50's early 60's I do remember a time, in the fifties and early sixties, when to see your GP you just went along at surgery time and waited. But I also remember waiting lists to see a consultant running into years rather than months during the seventies and eighties. |
Re: UK Migration has to stop
Originally Posted by Editha
(Post 11679638)
Ditto. My class at primary school had 40 pupils. My class at grammar school had 30.
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Re: UK Migration has to stop
Originally Posted by not2old
(Post 11652176)
the latest numbers from the ONS show increasing net migration to the UK - it has to stop.
Net migration into the UK rose by 50% to 318,000 last year, new figures show. Net migration to UK reaches 318,000 - BBC News Net migration to the UK was 318,000 in the year ending December 2014, according to the latest provisional estimates - ONS The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said this was a "statistically significant" rise of more than 109,000 compared with the previous year. There were increases in both EU and non-EU migration, with the total figure close to 2005's all-time high. - 45% non EU citizens - 42% EU citizens (excluding Brits) - 13% British citizens Thanks for the welcome :heart: |
Re: UK Migration has to stop
Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
(Post 11684105)
Here's another non EU citizen that'll be adding to the numbers of migrants by the end of the year.
Thanks for the welcome :heart: |
Re: UK Migration has to stop
Originally Posted by feelbritish
(Post 11684165)
:lol: Hopefully me too but are we exempted because we have British Roots and married to Brits and totally self-sufficient?
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