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Editha Jun 24th 2015 9:19 pm

Re: UK Migration has to stop
 
I agree with open borders within the EU, which means that no limit can be put on immigrant numbers. There are a lot of people on this site who would agree with me.

Pollyana Jun 24th 2015 9:19 pm

Re: UK Migration has to stop
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 11684364)
I don't think anyone on this Forum disputes the fact that the UK needs border controls and to make decisions as to how many immigrants of whatever nationality of origin come into the country, we are an island with a limit in land space.

What is disputed here is your view that "the millions" already here have apparently ruined our/your life.

Exactly! Thats the point I've been trying to make :thumbup:

Shard Jun 24th 2015 9:44 pm

Re: UK Migration has to stop
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 11684377)
I do read a great deal of the Forum-- but I have not read any post advocating unlimited immigration to UK and open borders!!

See post #136. ;)

Bipat Jun 24th 2015 9:55 pm

Re: UK Migration has to stop
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11684400)
See post #136. ;)

There is a difference between free movement between EU countries and unlimited immigration directly from anywhere in the world!!

(This particular part of the discussion was an expansion on another poster's problem with "The millions" and the "dangerous ethnic minorities"!!

Bud the Wiser Jun 24th 2015 10:52 pm

Re: UK Migration has to stop
 

Originally Posted by Editha (Post 11684250)
You can take some comfort from the fact that the two most anti-immigrant posters on this thread are actually living in Florida and Cyprus.

If, when mentioning Florida, you are referring to me, I'd like to remind you, once again, that there is a huge difference between, anti-immigrant, or indeed anti-immigration and anti-uncontrolled immigration. Using the 'anti-immigrant' slur to try and shout down debate is infantile and pathetic.

Once again, increase in population without consideration to an improvement and increase in the infrastructure of the UK will place that infrastructure under immense pressure. Yes or no?



Originally Posted by Editha (Post 11684381)
I agree with open borders within the EU, which means that no limit can be put on immigrant numbers. There are a lot of people on this site who would agree with me.

I agree with the EU concept and ultimately with open borders, but feel it has been badly managed by politicians trying to do too much too quickly. But that's another thread. :)

Editha Jun 24th 2015 10:57 pm

Re: UK Migration has to stop
 

Originally Posted by Bud the Wiser (Post 11684440)
If, when mentioning Florida, you are referring to me, I'd like to remind you, once again, that there is a huge difference between, anti-immigrant, or indeed anti-immigration and anti-uncontrolled immigration. Using the 'anti-immigrant' slur to try and shout down debate is infantile and pathetic.

Once again, increase in population without consideration to an improvement and increase in the infrastructure of the UK will place that infrastructure under immense pressure. Yes or no?




I agree with the EU concept and ultimately with open borders, but feel it has been badly managed by politicians trying to do too much too quickly. But that's another thread. :)

As you know, I disagree with you on the point about infrastructure. I'm not going to go over old ground.

Bud the Wiser Jun 24th 2015 11:06 pm

Re: UK Migration has to stop
 

Originally Posted by Editha (Post 11684446)
As you know, I disagree with you on the point about infrastructure. I'm not going to go over old ground.

Fine, no problem. Just get it right when you accuse the wrong people of being anti-immigrant. tsk! tsk!

Giantaxe Jun 25th 2015 5:10 am

Re: UK Migration has to stop
 

Originally Posted by Editha (Post 11684381)
I agree with open borders within the EU, which means that no limit can be put on immigrant numbers. There are a lot of people on this site who would agree with me.

Yes, I agree in free movement too. I don't see how you can have a viable free market without free movement of labour. Having said that, I don't have an issue with making benefits unavailable to new residents for a qualifying period.

Giantaxe Jun 25th 2015 5:13 am

Re: UK Migration has to stop
 

Originally Posted by themajor (Post 11684279)
Hi it's me again from sunny Cyprus.

I have lived all over the world. Every time that I returned to the UK I was unsettled by the mass of IMMIGRANTS. These were from several countries.

My irony meter is exploding.


Originally Posted by themajor (Post 11684279)
I was born in rural Lincolnshire on a farm. On business I travelled all over the UK. On entering Cities such as Bradford and Leicester I was confused. I thought I was back in Asia. In parts of London, Manchester, Birmingham, Leeds and several other Cities the police will not enter. Why? because of the ehtnic minority (as they are called) make it too dangerous.

I was born in Birmingham. Ethnic diversity has made it a way more interesting place to live than when I was growing up. Really, I think you're talking crap.

themajor Jun 25th 2015 5:55 am

Re: UK Migration has to stop
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 11684745)
My irony meter is exploding.



I was born in Birmingham. Ethnic diversity has made it a way more interesting place to live than when I was growing up. Really, I think you're talking crap.

Someone has to be born in Brum. So why did you emigrate from such a lovely City

Bipat Jun 25th 2015 6:26 am

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Recently went to Birmingham for shopping and yes the railway station is awful , renovation still only half finished and the road dug up for tram lines but---- nothing to do with immigrants:rofl:

We go to Leicester Belgrave area (the area many of THEM live) quite often, our Indian bank branch is there, spend the boring time complaining about the wait with other "ethnics".
Then a very good lunch and disappointment as the shops where I used to be able to get an upmarket sari to take back for weddings is closed, and no choice of anything else as those wretched 'others' now just integrate and wear western clothes!! :lol:

Editha Jun 25th 2015 6:26 am

Re: UK Migration has to stop
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 11684742)
Yes, I agree in free movement too. I don't see how you can have a viable free market without free movement of labour. Having said that, I don't have an issue with making benefits unavailable to new residents for a qualifying period.

I do have a problem with the fact that, in order to comply with EU rules, benefits are also being withheld from UK nationals.

Giantaxe Jun 25th 2015 6:49 am

Re: UK Migration has to stop
 

Originally Posted by themajor (Post 11684773)
Someone has to be born in Brum. So why did you emigrate from such a lovely City

Because it was a such boooring place when I left it 40 years ago. Stayed there on business for a couple of months a few years ago and it's so much more interesting a place to be now.

spouse of scouse Jun 25th 2015 8:11 am

Re: UK Migration has to stop
 
I'm an IMMIGRANT but I'm okay
My skin's lily white, I speak English all day

(He's an IMMIGRANT but he's ok
His skin's lily white, he speaks English all day)

I cut down Poles and any ethnic bunch
Who squat on the lavat'ry
I don't eat none of that foreign muck
I'm no ethnic minori-teee

(He's an IMMIGRANT but he's ok
His skin's lily white, he speaks English all day)

Ohhhh! I'm an IMMIGRANT but I'm ok
My skin's lily white, I speak English all day

Bud the Wiser Jun 26th 2015 6:19 am

Re: UK Migration has to stop
 
From today's Telegraph..........

Britain is not ready for the coming population boom - Telegraph


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