UK Migration has to stop
#181
Re: UK Migration has to stop
More pointedly, once again, non-EU migration (i.e. the bit that the government can control) is higher than EU migration. If they really want to bring the numbers down, why don't they?
#182
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Re: UK Migration has to stop
So out of a net migration of 196k from outside the EU, 98k were students, 49k presumably came on work visas, and only 33k were family members. (numbers don't add up so I'm not sure what the remaining 16k were).
Also interesting that the number of asylum applications is way lower than it was a decade ago.
Last edited by Giantaxe; Aug 27th 2015 at 11:47 pm.
#183
Re: UK Migration has to stop
"Among the migrants from outside the EU, about a half were students, a quarter workers, and one sixth family members."
So out of a net migration of 196k from outside the EU, 98k were students, 49k presumably came on work visas, and only 33k were family members. (numbers don't add up so I'm not sure what the remaining 16k were).
So out of a net migration of 196k from outside the EU, 98k were students, 49k presumably came on work visas, and only 33k were family members. (numbers don't add up so I'm not sure what the remaining 16k were).
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It seems that several issues here are being 'mixed', Asylum seekers and refugees, EU immigrants/non- EU immigrants. The latter have been reduced in numbers. Some in industry and the NHS are complaining that they have a shortage of skilled workers because of this.
#188
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Non-EU migration is higher than ever - higher than EU migration, many being students.
#190
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There have been repeated calls for students not to be included in the migration statistics as they are temporary residents. If their status changes and they stay on they can then be included.
#191
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The inclusion of students makes a nonsense of government immigration policy. On the one hand you have the universities minister Jo Johnson saying in June:
Then when the immigration stats come out we have the minister for education calling them 'disappointing' even though 11,000 of the increase are students, which his colleague should be celebrating.
The UK of course values international students .....
We will continue to ensure that our excellent education system remains a magnet for brilliant minds.
We will continue to ensure that our excellent education system remains a magnet for brilliant minds.
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I wonder whether the government is "scared" of removing students from the statistics because they know UKIP etc will likely jump on it and accuse them of "manipulating" the numbers to make them smaller?
#193
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All these non-EU students are paying vastly inflated tuition fees to help keep our tertiary education sector afloat. If numbers dropped it would be a disaster. But since the average Daily Mail reader thinks immigrants = bad and the current government has spent the last ten years reinforcing that message with anti-immigrant rhetoric then they are damned if they do and damned if don't.