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Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by islandmom
(Post 5980843)
but .... just as those going to Oz need a balanced view from posters in the Barbie and Oz forum giving the pro's and cons from their own experiences .... shouldnt those posting on the MBTTUK forum have both sides of the coin on views about the UK?
support and encouragement of course, everybody deserves to live and be where they are happy, but also should get all opinions to have a better picture. I agree. In my initial post to this thread I was pretty complimentary about the UK, as I generally try to remain objective. What I write is true, whether the other poster likes it or not. Britain is nice and close to Europe, Britain does have linguistic and cultural homogeneity, Britain has higher quality shops, Britain is facing a bleak economic outlook, Britain is overpopulated, etc. True. One cannot be selective when selecting a home. |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by islandmom
(Post 5980843)
but ....
support and encouragement of course, everybody deserves to live and be where they are happy, but also should get all opinions to have a better picture. need I say more:lol: quote. The bad news is that Britain is chronically overpopulated ,Also the weather is pretty uninspiring, although if you grew up with it you should be able to handle it. 40+ weeks of cloud and rain every year isn't a lot of fun. Damp is really unpleasant, and so much more pervasive and depressing than extreme heat or cold. People from as far apart as Finland and Greece have asked me how we live in such damp all the time. I feel Britain (or any cold country for that matter) is probably not a great place to grow old in, and I feel this is supported by the large number of Brits shifting to Spain and Provence every year to retire. And for the record, last year where I live in the south had 4 weeks of sunshine, and 48 were overcast, I kept a record of this in a journal, among other things. They were the first two weeks of April and also in August. There were other isolated sunny days, but these were the only prolonged periods of dry & sunny weather. Our town flooded and we watched people's furniture float down the street. that lack of sunlight is a scientifically proven cause of depression, osteoporosis, rickets, certain types of cancer and also MS. Even heart disease has been linked to a lack of sunlight. But generally the lack of personal space in Britain as a whole is what is affecting people's moods here. The streets and shops are packed. All the time. The car parks are always packed with people circling them like vultures waiting for someone to leave. If you like this sort of thing then be my guest. It would be remiss of me not to mention though that the British population continues to climb by about 500 a day, and it won't be long before central government sees the problem in the south and moves them to places like Derbyshire. Good luck when that happens. What does get me down though is the constat dark and damp of a British winter. In all these opinions one solid fact shines brightly: old people hate the cold, and I'm sure I will be no different. Britain's poor economic outlook over the next few years, have I? Or the energy crisis it's about to face. I haven't brought up the big problems it's got to face up tp for having placed too much faith in its financial services industry. I haven't commented once on its total lack of natural resources. chavs and Albanian sex-workers you describe as any other British town. As I say .................... TROLL |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Hi elfman, long time no write.
I do of course exaggerate, but it must be said that the locations you mention (Galway, Scotland) are pretty out of the way, out on the Celtic fringe. I know similar areas in Wales. The problem is I don't want to retire or even live in these places because of the weather. My parents live in a beautiful, and dare I say it, remote, part of the Celtic fringe and my word does that get dark early in winter, and also the incessant wind. I'm just not one of those guys that goes nuts for open fires, etc. Also, I would add to your defence of going out in the winter. It really does demand effort though, and I don't think it's an outrageous thing to suggest that people can make this effort more easily while on holiday, but when on your fourth consecutive month of darkness and 0 degrees, one look through the curtains and it's easier to pick up a book. Again. A good example of this is the Canada forums where year-in, year-out, people arrive there and write abut how freaking great it is and how much they love the snow. I give them three winters and then they've had enough, and glancing through some of their posts has proved me right. I guess the short way to put this is that winters are crap. |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Backhomeatlast
(Post 5980873)
islandmom. these are snippets of tablelands balance view.
need I say more:lol: quote. The bad news is that Britain is chronically overpopulated ,Also the weather is pretty uninspiring, although if you grew up with it you should be able to handle it. 40+ weeks of cloud and rain every year isn't a lot of fun. Damp is really unpleasant, and so much more pervasive and depressing than extreme heat or cold. People from as far apart as Finland and Greece have asked me how we live in such damp all the time. I feel Britain (or any cold country for that matter) is probably not a great place to grow old in, and I feel this is supported by the large number of Brits shifting to Spain and Provence every year to retire. And for the record, last year where I live in the south had 4 weeks of sunshine, and 48 were overcast, I kept a record of this in a journal, among other things. They were the first two weeks of April and also in August. There were other isolated sunny days, but these were the only prolonged periods of dry & sunny weather. Our town flooded and we watched people's furniture float down the street. that lack of sunlight is a scientifically proven cause of depression, osteoporosis, rickets, certain types of cancer and also MS. Even heart disease has been linked to a lack of sunlight. But generally the lack of personal space in Britain as a whole is what is affecting people's moods here. The streets and shops are packed. All the time. The car parks are always packed with people circling them like vultures waiting for someone to leave. If you like this sort of thing then be my guest. It would be remiss of me not to mention though that the British population continues to climb by about 500 a day, and it won't be long before central government sees the problem in the south and moves them to places like Derbyshire. Good luck when that happens. What does get me down though is the constat dark and damp of a British winter. In all these opinions one solid fact shines brightly: old people hate the cold, and I'm sure I will be no different. Rather selective quotes though! Are you sure you don't work for the BBC? Perhaps you should include the other stuff that was pro-Britain, or does that detract from one's tantrum? |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Tableland
(Post 5980880)
I do of course exaggerate, but it must be said that the locations you mention (Galway, Scotland) are pretty out of the way, out on the Celtic fringe. I know similar areas in Wales. The problem is I don't want to retire or even live in these places because of the weather. My parents live in a beautiful, and dare I say it, remote, part of the Celtic fringe and my word does that get dark early in winter, and also the incessant wind.
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Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Tableland
(Post 5980886)
Rather selective quotes though! Are you sure you don't work for the BBC? Perhaps you should include the other stuff that was pro-Britain, or does that detract from one's tantrum?
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Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by elfman
(Post 5980895)
:confused: I said Galloway, not Galway - I'm talking about just along the coast from Carlisle. And since when has the Suffolk countryside been "way out on the Celtic fringe"??
Either way, like I said, winter is crap, or at least it is in my opinion, and crucially (for me, anyway) the few weeks of light and warmth we get from June - August is not enough to compensate for the awful weather of October - April. |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Backhomeatlast
(Post 5980897)
Feel free to post previous posts Sir.:p
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Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Tableland
(Post 5980906)
Galloway's on the Celtic fringe, good god man! Also, my experience of Suffolk goes no further than Haverhill, which is as replete with the chavs and Albanian sex-workers you describe as any other British town.
Either way, like I said, winter is crap, or at least it is in my opinion, and crucially (for me, anyway) the few weeks of light and warmth we get from June - August is not enough to compensate for the awful weather of October - April. |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Tableland
(Post 5980915)
I don't feel the need, to be honest. If someone misrepresented me through selective quotations in my professional life that would be another story, but here we're all friends, n'est-ce pas?
and how have you been unfairly quoted? |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Backhomeatlast
(Post 5980916)
You cant help it can you:blink: out of intrest what part of the dust bowl you living in?
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Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Backhomeatlast
(Post 5980873)
islandmom. these are snippets of tablelands balanced view of the UK.
need I say more:lol: quote. The bad news is that Britain is chronically overpopulated ,Also the weather is pretty uninspiring, although if you grew up with it you should be able to handle it. 40+ weeks of cloud and rain every year isn't a lot of fun. Damp is really unpleasant, and so much more pervasive and depressing than extreme heat or cold. People from as far apart as Finland and Greece have asked me how we live in such damp all the time. I feel Britain (or any cold country for that matter) is probably not a great place to grow old in, and I feel this is supported by the large number of Brits shifting to Spain and Provence every year to retire. And for the record, last year where I live in the south had 4 weeks of sunshine, and 48 were overcast, I kept a record of this in a journal, among other things. They were the first two weeks of April and also in August. There were other isolated sunny days, but these were the only prolonged periods of dry & sunny weather. Our town flooded and we watched people's furniture float down the street. that lack of sunlight is a scientifically proven cause of depression, osteoporosis, rickets, certain types of cancer and also MS. Even heart disease has been linked to a lack of sunlight. But generally the lack of personal space in Britain as a whole is what is affecting people's moods here. The streets and shops are packed. All the time. The car parks are always packed with people circling them like vultures waiting for someone to leave. If you like this sort of thing then be my guest. It would be remiss of me not to mention though that the British population continues to climb by about 500 a day, and it won't be long before central government sees the problem in the south and moves them to places like Derbyshire. Good luck when that happens. What does get me down though is the constat dark and damp of a British winter. In all these opinions one solid fact shines brightly: old people hate the cold, and I'm sure I will be no different. Britain's poor economic outlook over the next few years, have I? Or the energy crisis it's about to face. I haven't brought up the big problems it's got to face up tp for having placed too much faith in its financial services industry. I haven't commented once on its total lack of natural resources. chavs and Albanian sex-workers you describe as any other British town. As I say .................... TROLL |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Tableland
(Post 5980906)
Galloway's on the Celtic fringe, good god man! Also, my experience of Suffolk goes no further than Haverhill, which is as replete with the chavs and Albanian sex-workers you describe as any other British town.
Either way, like I said, winter is crap, or at least it is in my opinion, and crucially (for me, anyway) the few weeks of light and warmth we get from June - August is not enough to compensate for the awful weather of October - April. And as for the eastern european sex workers, whenever I visit the UK they must all be using their benefits cash to visit their grannies back in Tirana - I never seem to see any on my visits to Britain. |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by alicecat
(Post 5913983)
We used to live in Rochester and we used to say that if Kent is the Garden of England then Chatham is the compost heap.
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Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Tableland
(Post 5980673)
Hi Quoll
I think the kind of person who has the will and courage to move from the UK to Australia usually has lots of wanderlust, and thi smeans he/she will never be happy anywhere. I read it every day: people whining about Australia and wanting to go to the UK; people whining about Australia and wanting to go to Canada, people whining about Canada and wanting to go to Australia, people whining about Britian and wanting to go to Australia/Canada. It never ends. Some people on this forum are on their fourth country now. We are cursed with wanderlust. We want to travel and as we grow older we want other things, naturally. I presume you have an Australian passport? If so, you can move to Britain with impunity because the slightest sign of problems you can hitch a 747 back to Tasmania, etc. Spare a thought for those who havn't got this option! All th ebest with your move anyway and I hope you find what you're looking for! We never made a conscious decision to come here - it was the best offer we had at one stage of our lives and then we sort of got stuck here. It certainly isnt where I saw myself in old age. |
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