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Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Tableland
(Post 5980270)
Australia has a drought of this length about every 50 years.
As do Americans and even Canadians. I have lived in and travelled in several hot climates, and can't say I ever felt overwhelmed by it, as a child or adult. What does get me down though is the constat dark and damp of a British winter. In all these opinions one solid fact shines brightly: old people hate the cold, and I'm sure I will be no different. Yes it is true that all forms of skin cancer, and cancer generally is on the rise. Part of this is because detection techniques have improved, part of it is because many old people today have spent 50 years in the sun before we really became educated about it. I would speculate that rates will start dropping soon as the education programmes kick in and take effect. Your child won't get skin cancer if you didn't cover him up on the occasional day though, because the damage caused by sun burn is cumulative and while childhood damage is the worst, we're talking years of careless exposure here, not one afternoon. If people understood the difference between ultraviolet and infrared rays we wouldn't have a problem - it's just education. I recently spent a few weeks in Australia and during that time I was outside every day. I am extremely fair-skinned and burn in minutes - yet I didn't even so much as turn pink because I respect the Aussie sun and know how to handle it. You could make this point about indigenous Brits.... I would agree that there is no "winner" but my final analysis is that aside from issues of career progression, Australia generally offers more, especially as we get older and don't fancy being stuck in front of Corrie every frigging day because it's too cold to sit outside. More claptrap from a person who is trying to justify why he is stuck IMO a boring hot dustbowl of a Country with crowded cities and ignorant and miserable people, I found more anti-social trouble and aggression working 3 nights a week in a Perth nightclub than I have ever done in years of bar-work in England, the weather in perth is horrible and the flies unbearable, ok last year was not brilliant but since I have been back sunshine and temperature records are being broken year after years and where I live the long warm summers have been the norm, even the last six weeks have had well above average daytime temperatures with unbroken sunny days, you are welcome to oz mate, I will stick with a Country I appreciate more than ever after 2 years of boredom and heat and flies of Oz. |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Backhomeatlast
(Post 5980697)
More claptrap from a person who is trying to justify why he is stuck IMO a boring hot dustbowl of a Country with crowded cities and ignorant and miserable people, I found more anti-social trouble and aggression working 3 nights a week in a Perth nightclub than I have ever done in years of bar-work in England, the weather in perth is horrible and the flies unbearable, ok last year was not brilliant but since I have been back sunshine and temperature records are being broken year after years and where I live the long warm summers have been the norm, even the last six weeks have had well above average daytime temperatures with unbroken sunny days, you are welcome to oz mate, I will stick with a Country I appreciate more than ever after 2 years of boredom and heat and flies of Oz.
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Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Tableland
(Post 5980707)
This weather sounds great. But when are you moving back to the UK?
I found the place boring and expensive and I can see why so many come back and why some dread growing old over there. Since I have been back I have loved the summers which have been mostly warm and sunny where I live....love it:rofl: |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Backhomeatlast
(Post 5980735)
I moved back to the UK after trying Oz for almost 2 years, I am a very fit young guy who's hobby is hiking and hill running, I could not do any of that in Oz as the heat will just kill you along with the bloody FLIES:mad:, who wants to run into a hairdryer on full blast, my health suffered in oz as I could not do my running as much as I wanted.
I found the place boring and expensive and I can see why so many come back and why some dread growing old over there. Since I have been back I have loved the summers which have been mostly warm and sunny where I live....love it:rofl: |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Tableland
(Post 5980764)
I'm pleased for you.
Its called trolling:thumbdown: |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Backhomeatlast
(Post 5980777)
Good, now why dont you go and play in the Barbie, this is for people who want to return to the UK, you are obviously unhappy with something in your life to come on this forum and constantly rundown the UK knowing people are here for support and encouragement.
Its called trolling:thumbdown: |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by northernbird
(Post 5980792)
bit like you going into the Barbie slating everything Australian :unsure:
the the ;) |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
To Quoll and tableland,
Thanks for an interesting read. It is really enlightening to read opinions and also about your experiences. I'm only in my 30s and I guess I have an awful lot still left to learn. You both highlight so well how we are all so different, and what we as individuals want for our prime years and also for our retirement. You are an example of how to debate without heat, and I hope that I can in time learn to bite my tongue!! ( i will try hard!)..... Although there are more sunny days in oz, I'm looking forward to returning to the uk, as I like spending all day out with my boys to keep them from playstation and tv. This is hard to do when it gets too hot, and tedious bathing in fly spray and spf30+ to go on a simple bike ride. Also limiting time in sun as the rays are damaging. I know this is Australia and we should adapt to climate, but it's not healthy to stay in most of the day. Another point which is contradicted is the fact that the sun is good for depression.....obviously not so in Australia as there are high suicide rates?! Do you think that's the isolation of being so far away from any other countries or the lack of community spirit? I am genuinly interested in this. Although I have found most Australians to be friendly enough, there is no neighbourly feel, almost like everyone is too busy to worry about neighbours. I feel that the old people in Australia must be quite lonely as many of them left family behind in homelands and now too late to move back, have nobody to care for them and consequently end up in a home. There seems a real divide between the generations. The village I left in uk was very community minded and most do look in on their elderly neighbours as it is just common courtesy, I don't see that here, a real shame. I've noticed the lack of local shops too which provide a social activity for many old people, it gets them out, a bit of excersise and mixing with their community. Hardly a community feeling in big supermarkets or shopping centres! I understand why some may consider moving back in their later years, to enjoy the benefits of a good village life. Also hot weather can be just as draining and make it difficult to remain active, as oposed to being able to wrap up warm and still get out and about. |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Backhomeatlast
(Post 5980777)
Good, now why dont you go and play in the Barbie, this is for people who want to return to the UK, you are obviously unhappy with something in your life to come on this forum and constantly rundown the UK knowing people are here for support and encouragement.
Its called trolling:thumbdown: Nothing, Nada. Rien. Instead I wrote an objective post, summing up the UK in my opinion, as invited by the OP, in which I made several nice comments about the UK. I thikn you described it as "bollocks" or something along those lines, I forget. |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by kelbelinoz
(Post 5980810)
To Quoll and tableland,
Thanks for an interesting read. It is really enlightening to read opinions and also about your experiences. I'm only in my 30s and I guess I have an awful lot still left to learn. You both highlight so well how we are all so different, and what we as individuals want for our prime years and also for our retirement. You are an example of how to debate without heat, and I hope that I can in time learn to bite my tongue!! ( i will try hard!)..... Although there are more sunny days in oz, I'm looking forward to returning to the uk, as I like spending all day out with my boys to keep them from playstation and tv. This is hard to do when it gets too hot, and tedious bathing in fly spray and spf30+ to go on a simple bike ride. Also limiting time in sun as the rays are damaging. I know this is Australia and we should adapt to climate, but it's not healthy to stay in most of the day. Another point which is contradicted is the fact that the sun is good for depression.....obviously not so in Australia as there are high suicide rates?! Do you think that's the isolation of being so far away from any other countries or the lack of community spirit? I am genuinly interested in this. Although I have found most Australians to be friendly enough, there is no neighbourly feel, almost like everyone is too busy to worry about neighbours. I feel that the old people in Australia must be quite lonely as many of them left family behind in homelands and now too late to move back, have nobody to care for them and consequently end up in a home. There seems a real divide between the generations. The village I left in uk was very community minded and most do look in on their elderly neighbours as it is just common courtesy, I don't see that here, a real shame. I've noticed the lack of local shops too which provide a social activity for many old people, it gets them out, a bit of excersise and mixing with their community. Hardly a community feeling in big supermarkets or shopping centres! I understand why some may consider moving back in their later years, to enjoy the benefits of a good village life. Also hot weather can be just as draining and make it difficult to remain active, as oposed to being able to wrap up warm and still get out and about. Thanks! Just a couple of points - the suicide rate is high in Australia because there are high rates in the aboriginal community, and the sun's rays are only harmful above UV4 or UV5 depending on your age and skin. In nother words even in high summer you're usually safe before 10am and after 5pm - and then you're working anyway! A lot of people think heat = sun burn, although I am sure you don't. Sorry you didn't enjoy Australia. |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Tableland
(Post 5980811)
Hey bub, guess what? You don't get to tell me where to post! Moreover, my posts on this thread have been responsible and objective, with plenty of positive stuff about the UK. I have refrained from being negative because I appreciate what this folder is for. I haven't, for example, mentioned once Britain's poor economic outlook over the next few years, have I? Or the energy crisis it's about to face. I haven't brought up the big problems it's got to face up tp for having placed too much faith in its financial services industry. I haven't commented once on its total lack of natural resources.
Nothing, Nada. Rien. Instead I wrote an objective post, summing up the UK in my opinion, as invited by the OP, in which I made several nice comments about the UK. I thikn you described it as "bollocks" or something along those lines, I forget. |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Backhomeatlast
(Post 5980777)
Good, now why dont you go and play in the Barbie, this is for people who want to return to the UK, you are obviously unhappy with something in your life to come on this forum and constantly rundown the UK knowing people are here for support and encouragement.
Its called trolling:thumbdown: support and encouragement of course, everybody deserves to live and be where they are happy, but also should get all opinions to have a better picture. |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Backhomeatlast
(Post 5980832)
As I say..........Troll:thumbdown:
There is a difference between presenting facts within a coherent and objective post, and trolling. My posts clearly are of the former variety. I can't see a future for us, frankly, backhometillthecollapse, so I'm toying with demoting you to the ignore list. |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by kelbelinoz
(Post 5980810)
To Quoll and tableland,
Thanks for an interesting read. It is really enlightening to read opinions and also about your experiences. I'm only in my 30s and I guess I have an awful lot still left to learn. You both highlight so well how we are all so different, and what we as individuals want for our prime years and also for our retirement. You are an example of how to debate without heat, and I hope that I can in time learn to bite my tongue!! ( i will try hard!)..... Although there are more sunny days in oz, I'm looking forward to returning to the uk, as I like spending all day out with my boys to keep them from playstation and tv. This is hard to do when it gets too hot, and tedious bathing in fly spray and spf30+ to go on a simple bike ride. Also limiting time in sun as the rays are damaging. I know this is Australia and we should adapt to climate, but it's not healthy to stay in most of the day. Another point which is contradicted is the fact that the sun is good for depression.....obviously not so in Australia as there are high suicide rates?! Do you think that's the isolation of being so far away from any other countries or the lack of community spirit? I am genuinly interested in this. Although I have found most Australians to be friendly enough, there is no neighbourly feel, almost like everyone is too busy to worry about neighbours. I feel that the old people in Australia must be quite lonely as many of them left family behind in homelands and now too late to move back, have nobody to care for them and consequently end up in a home. There seems a real divide between the generations. The village I left in uk was very community minded and most do look in on their elderly neighbours as it is just common courtesy, I don't see that here, a real shame. I've noticed the lack of local shops too which provide a social activity for many old people, it gets them out, a bit of excersise and mixing with their community. Hardly a community feeling in big supermarkets or shopping centres! I understand why some may consider moving back in their later years, to enjoy the benefits of a good village life. Also hot weather can be just as draining and make it difficult to remain active, as oposed to being able to wrap up warm and still get out and about. So true, the sun and heat and flies are a nightmare after the initial week of landing, then the reality strikes you and you yearn for just fresh air:eek: I notice the ossies themselves do not sunbathe or go out without factor 30+, it's the Brits. Mad dogs and Englismen come to mind:p |
Re: Sum up GREAT BRITAIN...
Originally Posted by Tableland
(Post 5980045)
I agree that there are isolated pockets of countryside where on certain days at certain times you can be alone, like Dartmoor for example, or the Brecon Beacons. In these places, when it's not raining, you can walk for hours and usually only see a few people wandering about. But generally the lack of personal space in Britain as a whole is what is affecting people's moods here.
And as for the weather - I will never understand the constant refrain of "you're stuck inside watching telly for nine months of the year" we get on here. We spent a fortnight in Scotland over Christmas/New Year and during that period we were out and about doing stuff outside (with small children) for nine consecutive days (ok, I'll admit that on one of those days we didn't last long outside, but hey, this is Scotland in December we're talking about). |
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