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Old Jul 20th 2013, 2:20 pm
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Originally Posted by chris955
This is still a great country, it has not gone to the dogs, it isnt going down the drain, it isnt overrun by immigrants on the dole.
So how do you explain this?

http://rt.com/news/britain-families-...te-survey-872/
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Originally Posted by MarylandNed
Easy to explain. Middle class British people are always moaning about something. That particular survey seems a bit suspect too. So what if Adelaide was designed in 1831 as a vision to create a better Britain.. That just shows that British colonialists in pre-Victorian times were inveterate moaners just like contemporary Brits.
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Old Jul 20th 2013, 3:30 pm
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Originally Posted by MarylandNed
Explain what? I dont need to explain anything.
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Old Jul 20th 2013, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by robin1234
Easy to explain. Middle class British people are always moaning about something. That particular survey seems a bit suspect too. So what if Adelaide was designed in 1831 as a vision to create a better Britain.. That just shows that British colonialists in pre-Victorian times were inveterate moaners just like contemporary Brits.
Doesn't explain this part though:

"With the economic downturn Britain’s living standards have been declining as household bills rise such as fuel, mortgage, and food prices.

According to a new research released by audit firm KPMG this week, nearly 5 million workers in the UK are not earning enough to maintain a decent standard of living.

The study concluded that twenty per cent of the working population receives less than the minimum wage, which is $13 an hour. "
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Old Jul 20th 2013, 3:33 pm
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Originally Posted by chris955
Explain what? I dont need to explain anything.
Of course you don't if you don't want to. Although I thought you might like to since it seems to contradict what you said earlier.
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Originally Posted by MarylandNed
Of course you don't if you don't want to. Although I thought you might like to since it seems to contradict what you said earlier.
It in no way contradicts what we have found so certainly no need to 'explain' anything. If you are happy where you are and have no intention of returning thats not a problem, this country gives us what we want, simple
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Originally Posted by MarylandNed
Doesn't explain this part though:

"With the economic downturn Britain’s living standards have been declining as household bills rise such as fuel, mortgage, and food prices.

According to a new research released by audit firm KPMG this week, nearly 5 million workers in the UK are not earning enough to maintain a decent standard of living.

The study concluded that twenty per cent of the working population receives less than the minimum wage, which is $13 an hour. "
The thing is that describes Australia in recent years, costs outstripping wages. Also the US from what I understand.
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Originally Posted by MarylandNed
Doesn't explain this part though:
"With the economic downturn Britain’s living standards have been declining as household bills rise such as fuel, mortgage, and food prices.
According to a new research released by audit firm KPMG this week, nearly 5 million workers in the UK are not earning enough to maintain a decent standard of living.
The study concluded that twenty per cent of the working population receives less than the minimum wage, which is $13 an hour. "
In the macroscopic perspective it is all a combination of worldwide overpopulation combined with globalisation (which is equivalent to the rich get richer and fewer and the poor get poorer). Which situation is unstable in the long term and will inevitably result in catastrophic global financial collapse.

When that happens, as it surely will, Britain is inherently better placed than most nations to survive it. For many reasons including cultural and geographic. It won't be any harder than surviving the second world war, the outcome of which was never really in doubt despite the fears that it was.
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Default Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?

Originally Posted by MarylandNed
Doesn't explain this part though:

"With the economic downturn Britain’s living standards have been declining as household bills rise such as fuel, mortgage, and food prices.

According to a new research released by audit firm KPMG this week, nearly 5 million workers in the UK are not earning enough to maintain a decent standard of living.

The study concluded that twenty per cent of the working population receives less than the minimum wage, which is $13 an hour. "
Not sure I see the logical connection ... what needs to be explained? I think most people knew, without this particular study to rely on, that millions of workers were not earning enough to pay for what they've been taught they are entitled to. And, as chris955 rightly points out, workers are lagging behind in Australia and the US too.
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Old Jul 20th 2013, 5:23 pm
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Old Jul 20th 2013, 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by robin1234
Not sure I see the logical connection ... what needs to be explained? I think most people knew, without this particular study to rely on, that millions of workers were not earning enough to pay for what they've been taught they are entitled to. And, as chris955 rightly points out, workers are lagging behind in Australia and the US too.
Im glad it wasnt just me wondering what it is that needs explaining.
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Originally Posted by chris955
Im glad it wasnt just me wondering what it is that needs explaining.
Yeh, the UK has the same problems as most western countries... I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!
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Some dissection of the UK unemployment figures that may assist the OP in his quest for UK information.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/e...-labour-market
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Yeh, the UK has the same problems as most western countries... I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!
Yes who'd have thought it hey?
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Originally Posted by robin1234
Not sure I see the logical connection ... what needs to be explained? I think most people knew, without this particular study to rely on, that millions of workers were not earning enough to pay for what they've been taught they are entitled to. And, as chris955 rightly points out, workers are lagging behind in Australia and the US too.
Yes, there are economic issues in other countries as well - although that wasn't the only issue brought up in the article. You seem to have missed the real point which is that so many Brits are contemplating emigration as an escape from the various problems. I don't see articles claiming that a similar number of Americans and Australians are so unhappy with their country that they want to leave.
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