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sonlymewalter Aug 16th 2011 2:13 pm

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9563437)
....Anyway, from the Beeb and a gentleman who lives in Tottenham.

The stall's owner, Bob Thompson, said he is a bit wary and keeping alert, but Tottenham was a good community.

"There are 47 different nationalities in this area and we've been here 20 years and never had any problems at all...
...And his message to people in the area?

"Relax and try to get back to normal."


A wise gentleman.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14511109

This post smacks of "let's pretend there's nothing to worry about, it'll go away, poor lower classes"


Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9563437)
And not that anyone much will, or even needs to, listen

Of course not. Only you are smart enough to do that. Everyone else is stupid...


Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9563437)
I expect Australia is a lovely place.

Yep, it is. And you know what, not everyone is a bogan. You know...just like in UK....


Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9563437)
Some of my best friends, etc. etc., Some of whom used to inhabit this site. .

You mean those that only think like you and agree with everything you say? BTW people with class don't behave like that:thumbdown:

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9563437)
The fact that there is the odd racist about, one of whom I stepped on in the Barbie,.

Who was this? Did you step on anyone or is it that several posters took exception to your upper handed way of speaking to people? In fact if you truly understood people you would know racism is not the majority view in the Barbie and in fact any kind of racism is not tolerated by the Mods in there and the largest majority of decent posters however people's viewpoints are all valid.


Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9563437)
....and a lot of knee-jerk xenophobia on the part of people being told what to think by the Daily Wail, in no way differentiates the country from the rest of the world really

So....who are these people you talk about in the Barbie who read the "Daily Wail?" I have never asked any of these people what they read nor do I care. Everyone has an opinion based on their upbringing, their life and their choices. What they read doesn't necisserily make them a better or worse person nor do their opinions mean they read a certain paper. Is this another one of your presumptions mate:confused:


Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9563437)
There is no excuse for racism or xenophobia or any such absurd and ignorant prejudices. It's all a)despicable and b)very boring to listen to,.

Agree. And so it predjudice against people because of where they live or what they read....not who they are. Recognise any of these prejudices?:ohmy:


Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9563437)
....and judging by karma messages I got there are plenty of people in the Oz forums who agree with that

And lots of others have received karma for their opinions too. Contrary to your own belief you are not the only person to receive karma. I bet that's a surprise innit:ohmy:


Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9563437)
I have no idea why the Barbie seems to have become so overexcited by one spat - I've been annoying people on this forum for years and have never created such excitement before. I must have hit a nerve. Or else it's the heat.

There you go with presuming again:rolleyes: It's WINTER here in Aus mate, so there is no heat. It's bleedin freezing in fact...brrrr.....

The heat is all in your knickers - which you got in a twist again:lol:


Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9563437)
....If it will help do away with repugnant prejudices, then I will keep on hitting as I see fit. Anyone is welcome to disagree, of course.

Which only you find repugnant of course as it's only reserved for someone only of your high moral standing:thumbup: All the other plebs you speak of don't know better, don't listen and don't care. Thanks for enlightening the Barbie with your wisdom.....


Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9563437)
.... We Yanks are generous like that

The Americans I know are smart, generous, funny and equitable people who treat others with respect and don't resort to using the upper hand or ridicule or victim card. No one minds anyone taking the piss cos that's all it is. They don't take themselves seriously cos they're not that up themselves.

I believe you are English.....

As for the Barbie - and for the record - the largest majority of people in there are sensible, intelligent and decent folk who find it repugnant that someone wades in with insult after insult accusing them of the very thing they are abhorred by i.e. racism of any kind. The largest majority of people who move to Aus understand it is a multi cultural society and they are more than happy to be part of it. What they don't like is the racism card being used at every opportunity. The fact that inequality is demonstrated in any way is vile to them whether it is black Vs white or white vs black. They do not veer away from drilling down to the real issues in order to find the real solutions and genuinely care that problems are addressed from every angle, regardless as to skin colour.

Posters in the Barbie were disgusted by someone insulting them just because they seek answers to questions based on finding appropriate solutions to the recent riots. This was nothing short of trolling behavior. It's a shame that due to your extremely negative contribution to recent debate in the Barbie that it resulted in posters feeling they needed to come in to this forum to state their views and set the record straight. And that includes me.

The irony is that the largest majority of posters in the Barbie (including me) are of the same viewpoint as you :ohmy: and many other decent people in terms of our mutual hatred for racism in all it's forms. The difference is that most people debated this without the intention of baiting anyone and the need to insult anyone's intelligence due to living in Australia.

Anyway that's it from me. I trust you now have some idea why you upset a lot of people. It's Ekka day here in Queensland and I'm off to get me bogan hat, straw in gob and my redneck arse down to the showground and find me a few beers to chill out on.

Enjoy your day maam....

....yeeee haaaa:thumbup:

Lion in Winter Aug 16th 2011 2:14 pm

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9563612)
This post smacks of "let's pretend there's nothing to worry about, it'll go away, poor lower classes"


Of course not. Only you are smart enough to do that. Everyone else is stupid...


Yep, it is. And you know what, not everyone is a bogan. You know...just like in UK....


You mean those that only think like you and agree with everything you say? BTW people with class don't behave like that:thumbdown:

Who was this? Did you step on anyone or is it that several posters took exception to your upper handed way of speaking to people? In fact if you truly understood people you would know racism is not the majority view in the Barbie and in fact any kind of racism is not tolerated by the Mods in there and the largest majority of decent posters however people's viewpoints are all valid.



So....who are these people you talk about in the Barbie who read the "Daily Wail?" I have never asked any of these people what they read nor do I care. Everyone has an opinion based on their upbringing, their life and their choices. What they read doesn't necisserily make them a better or worse person nor do their opinions mean they read a certain paper. Is this another one of your presumptions mate:confused:


Agree. And so it predjudice against people because of where they live or what they read....not who they are. Recognise any of these prejudices?:ohmy:



And lots of others have received karma for their opinions too. Contrary to your own belief you are not the only person to receive karma. I bet that's a surprise innit:ohmy:


There you go with presuming again:rolleyes: It's WINTER here in Aus mate, so there is no heat. It's bleedin freezing in fact...brrrr.....

The heat is all in your knickers - which you got in a twist again:lol:


Which only you find repugnant of course as it's only reserved for someone only of your high moral standing:thumbup: All the other plebs you speak of don't know better, don't listen and don't care. Thanks for enlightening the Barbie with your wisdom.....


The Americans I know are smart, generous, funny and equitable people who treat others with respect and don't resort to using the upper hand or ridicule or victim card. No one minds anyone taking the piss cos that's all it is. They don't take themselves seriously cos they're not that up themselves.

I believe you are English.....

As for the Barbie - and for the record - the largest majority of people in there are sensible, intelligent and decent folk who find it repugnant that someone wades in with insult after insult accusing them of the very thing they are abhorred by i.e. racism of any kind. The largest majority of people who move to Aus understand it is a multi cultural society and they are more than happy to be part of it. What they don't like is the racism card being used at every opportunity. The fact that inequality is demonstrated in any way is vile to them whether it is black Vs white or white vs black. They do not veer away from drilling down to the real issues in order to find the real solutions and genuinely care that problems are addressed from every angle, regardless as to skin colour.

Posters in the Barbie were disgusted by someone insulting them just because they seek answers to questions based on finding appropriate solutions to the recent riots. This was nothing short of trolling behavior. It's a shame that due to your extremely negative contribution to recent debate in the Barbie that it resulted in posters feeling they needed to come in to this forum to state their views and set the record straight. And that includes me.

The irony is that the largest majority of posters in the Barbie (including me) are of the same viewpoint as you :ohmy: and many other decent people in terms of our mutual hatred for racism in all it's forms. The difference is that most people debated this without the intention of baiting anyone and the need to insult anyone's intelligence due to living in Australia.

Anyway that's it from me. I trust you now have some idea why you upset a lot of people. It's Ekka day here in Queensland and I'm off to get me bogan hat, straw in gob and my redneck arse down to the showground and find me a few beers to chill out on.

Enjoy your day maam....

....yeeee haaaa:thumbup:


Or then again, maybe not.

Sally Redux Aug 16th 2011 2:15 pm

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9563612)
in fact any kind of racism is not tolerated by the Mods in there

:rofl:

Sally Redux Aug 16th 2011 2:15 pm

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9563614)
Or then again, maybe not.

The myth of Sisyphus springs to mind.

Lion in Winter Aug 16th 2011 2:16 pm

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 9563617)
The myth of Sisyphus springs to mind.

I've never seen quite so many straw men set up in one post.

Oh well.

<pushes the big rock some more>

Leslie Aug 16th 2011 2:17 pm

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9563606)
Really? All I got was positive karma from Oz inhabitants who are as sick of the xenophobia as the rest of us.

Of course, now I've said that.........

Definitely, I got some nice ones as well. I didn't want to mention those because "outing" people ain't my thing... strange if you think about it.

But I've also had some seriously twisted and antagonistic karmas. What's up with that? It must be an Oz thing 'cause we just don't do that over here. :blink:

Lion in Winter Aug 16th 2011 2:18 pm

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 9563624)
Definitely, I got some nice ones as well. I didn't want to mention those because "outing" people ain't my thing... strange if you think about it.

But I've also had some seriously twisted and antagonistic karmas. What's up with that? It must be an Oz thing 'cause we just don't do that over here. :blink:


I think it's just an attempt at bullying really.

However, I went to an all-girls school until I was sixteen so there is NOTHING that can frighten me after that.

sonlymewalter Aug 16th 2011 2:24 pm

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 9563616)
:rofl:

Great contribution as usual:rofl:


Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 9563624)
Definitely, I got some nice ones as well. I didn't want to mention those because "outing" people ain't my thing... strange if you think about it.

But I've also had some seriously twisted and antagonistic karmas. What's up with that? It must be an Oz thing 'cause we just don't do that over here. :blink:

That's not right either Leslie. If someone posts nasty Karma you need to inform Sue as this is not tolerated. That's not what karma was intended for:thumbdown:

Leslie Aug 16th 2011 2:25 pm

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 9563607)
How many death threats is it on your head now? :blink: :lol:

Fatwas galore. Geezy creezy. :blink:

Sally Redux Aug 16th 2011 2:26 pm

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9563633)
Great contribution as usual:rofl:

Thanks :cool:

sonlymewalter Aug 16th 2011 2:29 pm

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9563628)
I think it's just an attempt at bullying really.

However, I went to an all-girls school until I was sixteen so there is NOTHING that can frighten me after that.

Not playing the victim again are you:rolleyes: You seem to be able to dish it out but then when you get a response you accuse people of bullying:confused:

Not sure where the "all girls school" thing comes in cos a lot of the posters from the Barbie that came in here were a mixture of male and female:confused:

sonlymewalter Aug 16th 2011 2:30 pm

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 9563634)
Fatwas galore. Geezy creezy. :blink:

wear your burka and you'll be ok mate:thumbup:

Sally Redux Aug 16th 2011 2:31 pm

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9563639)
Not playing the victim again are you:rolleyes: You seem to be able to dish it out but then when you get a response you accuse people of bullying:confused:

Not sure where the "all girls school" thing comes in cos a lot of the posters from the Barbie that came in here were a mixture of male and female:confused:

She was talking about Leslie I think, and the rigours of an all-girls school?

You seem to be losng the plot mate.

Leslie Aug 16th 2011 2:32 pm

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9563633)


That's not right either Leslie. If someone posts nasty Karma you need to inform Sue as this is not tolerated. That's not what karma was intended for:thumbdown:

Cheers, mate. :) But that's just not going to happen, I'm no rat. :lol:

I think everybody has become so upset that they're not really even reading or understanding what others are posting. Unfortunately, it's sort of like the riots, when you have to just step back and hope that eventually civility will prevail.

Lion in Winter Aug 16th 2011 2:33 pm

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9563639)

Not sure where the "all girls school" thing comes in cos a lot of the posters from the Barbie that came in here were a mixture of male and female:confused:


Ah, that's cos you didn't go to one.


Second pic down.

http://lambiek.net/artists/s/searle_ronald.htm


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