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I fear it's only a matter of time until it sparks somewhere this side of the pond. All those arrested should be shipped out to Afghanistan and see if they want to run riots through the streets there. Cowards.

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Couldn't agree more! They're scumbags who aren't even rioting for a cause - all they're doing is stealing, attacking people and trashing the place. :mad:

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I've been watching the youtube videos of the Ealing riots, as I used to live there. The one I just watched had some closeups of people looking very pleased with themselves for what they're doing.

I'm glad we're not still trying to sell our old house there...

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Only visiting my husband here in Glasgow at the moment, and have to say I don't really comprehend the way police are reacting to this situation. I don't understand why they aren't using the force necessary to prevent this stupidity from occurring. I don't condone police violence, but there does come a point when its almost necessary for the protection of society.

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They all look very pleased with themselves, they clearly have no shame. They're not starving people stealing bread to feed their families, they're just thugs out to take whatever they can get, whether that's stuff from shops or regular hardworking people. I saw an article today with a photo of a guy having the clothes off his back stolen from him! How much worse is this going to get? :thumbdown:

The worst thing is the police don't seem to be able to do anything about it... :confused:

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Yep, as far as I'm concerned the police should be using all force necessary. As it is, the looting and violence is going on right in front of the cops and the scum are getting away with it. Even those who get charged will probably just get a slap on the wrist... The longer they let it go on, the worse it's going to get. :unsure:

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Yes, this English recreational looting and rioting makes Glasgow seem quite civilized.:lol:

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Stretched to thin on the ground. Simple as that.

When you've had a huge number of police being reduced in size, protesters/rioters able to move around via twitter etc so quickly that the cops aren't able to get around, never mind to get ahead of this. It isn't a surprise.

Anyway, it's what insurance is for. I'd personally rather the police took a softer approach than shoot or beat some unfortunate innocent person up, and they can go arrest these dick heads later with the evidence gathered rather than flair things up with more of a stand off approach.

Because that worked so well in LA with the Rodney King riots etc.

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Haven't we already got about 6 threads going on this topic!!

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Perhaps, but since this one isn't in Take it Outside it shall remain polite :D

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For how long LOL

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Well hopefully it will remain on topic.....:unsure:

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I don't think it's that simple. While I'm sure many of the rioters are just using this as an excuse to riot and loot and cause mischief, there are other factors at play here.

I'm not condoning the rioters actions, but it was pretty obvious something like this was coming. Perceived cuts in the welfare state, unemployment, racial tensions, growing gap between the richest and poorest incomes, liberal education policies which have failed the kids, producing a generation of under-educated, unskilled people dependent on government hand-outs.

Let's look at the problem with the Met. It appears the police killed Duggan when he was not a threat and then tried to cover it up. Yes, the guy was not a choirboy, but that does not merit police execution.
The police are the largest armed gang operating in the UK, have a monopoly on force, and they act with impunity. I can cite numerous examples where they abuse their power and there are no repercussions. Corruption, blatant cover-ups etc. from Jean Charles de Menezes, Ian Tomlinson/Simon Harwood, the custody sergeant who threw the lady headfirst onto the concrete. I could go on and on.

You know me and you know that I think Britain became a police state a while back. I sympathize with blacks in London after they get stopped and searched time after time, living under constant surveillance. This would make me angry too.

I agree that destroying your own neighborhood is sheer idiocy, and I feel for the people who have lost their livelihoods and their homes. The same thing happened in LA, where the predominantly black population destroyed its own infrastructure. It's crazy.

Britain is still obsessed with class. Typical newspaper article will include the following - blah blah, said Mr Area Man in his 350,000 pound detached house with a Jaguar and a "4x4" parked in the driveway.
And a lot of British people are envious or resentful of others' success.
As an example, listen to these geniuses:

"Showing the rich people we can do what we want"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424

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Yeah, I agree. Maybe if it rained, that would tamp things down.

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too many guns and make my day laws.

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There may be some other factors at play, but I'm pretty sure most of the people causing trouble are just doing it because they can - they know nothing will happen to them (the justice system is a joke) and they have this sense of entitlement that somehow the world owes them something.

I do agree that the police are probably corrupt, and that there are 'class' issues in the UK. Having said that, the people rioting/looting/victimizing innocent people aren't doing themselves any favours by causing all this trouble.

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I don't know, Manc.

Google "flash mob beatings", and you'll see these a pattern of these in the US recently, the most recent being the Wisconsin State Fair. Reuters ignored the racial aspect of it, describing the perpetrators as "youths", but black youths were pulling whites out of their cars and beating them.

They're also doing flash mob robberies.
Both types are on the rise, and are being ignored by the MSM.

I see more and more of this social unrest as the economy tanks, the ranks of the have-nots grows. There are riots in China, Portual, Israel, Pakistan, the Philippines.

\ And this is a good argument why restricting magazine capacities is stupid.

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I think there is a definite difference between genuine social unrest and a shower of theiving twats.

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Just great , I'm at the San Francisco airport right now, London then Manchester to see friends and family, should be a riot, ( excuse the pun ).

My cousin just sent me a note saying a bunch of kids tried to turn his car over, cops came and they scarpered, and he's in the suburbs of Manchester.

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can I ask which one.

I have family there too

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I agree with everything you just said. Did you see the little granny? We need a few more like her out there:



(Low up means stop)

This one might make you giggle.

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what a knob.

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That fearless woman would go down a treat as the resident grammer/spell checker on BE :lol:.....

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Yes! That granny is amazing, we definitely need more like her.
As for the riot fail, well, we didn't think the yobs had many brain cells did we?! :rofl:

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Stay safe and I hope you manage to have a good time! :fingerscrossed:

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Waiting for the new threads here in a few months time...

"I woz involved in a little bit of looting and stuff recently bit silly really but do I hav to redo my ESTA like?"

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http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sangat-tv

Amateur live news feed from Birmingham, which is quite good...they even gave a cop a lift earlier who was chasing after some folks.

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I agree totally. It's like the world owes them something. It's like the everyone-wants-to-get-rich-quick disease.. not through working and getting your hands dirty, but through things like 5 minutes of fame on reality TV, lottery - and now thieving.
It makes me so mad - and sad, when I see buildings that survived World War II now just shells.

Hope they get it all under control soon.

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:rofl:

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What makes you think that? :unsure:

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I was thinking the same thing, I know what would happen here if somebody tried that.

They seem to be worried about their beneys being taken so not comparable.

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Their beneys? What are those?

Benefits?

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You may be right on that score!

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I think it's that last word that the British police force have never seemed to be able to get the hang of...

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thats the problem with this situation.
the police used force and shot a guy they get lambasted and riots start.
now people want them to use force what the hell can they do.

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An easier solution: make them and their families ineligible for any benefits, for life. That'll give them something else to do.

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Does anyone know the legality of carrying pepper gel in the UK?

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yes it goes well on fish and chips:rofl:

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Well that settles it, I'll carry a large bottle of tabasco sauce :)