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Old Jul 30th 2008 | 1:32 am
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Thought I'd add this link:

http://www.caade.net/index.html

Scroll down and click on sympathetic recruiters-this gives you a load of other links and jobs.

also on sympathetic employers-this has a list of all the employers sympathetic to over 45s.

Will your child be traveling with you? I'm not sure of the rights he/she could have in the UK but he/she will be British by descent. This could be your answer for somewhere to live...? correct me someone...?
 
Old Jul 30th 2008 | 1:39 am
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You're not going to get assistance and neither will anyone else other than approved assylum seekers. You need to work out a plan or save up considerably more money to try at a later date.

People come to the UK on student travel budgets and live, its not ideal but renting a room and doing anything that someone will pay you for, ie warehouse picking etc etc may be your only route to having a permanent address here from which to find qualified work. No council is going to put that roof over your head.
 
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Originally Posted by cornishvellan
Thought I'd add this link:

http://www.caade.net/index.html

Scroll down and click on sympathetic recruiters-this gives you a load of other links and jobs.

also on sympathetic employers-this has a list of all the employers sympathetic to over 45s.

Will your child be traveling with you? I'm not sure of the rights he/she could have in the UK but he/she will be British by descent. This could be your answer for somewhere to live...? correct me someone...?


Thanks for a fantastic link............I hate to admit that I now need such a website. It's like seeing those age brackets on forms and realising that you're further down the list tha you used to be! I think they should do them in reverse order to give us wrinklies the occasional boost!
 
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Originally Posted by oldbag
Thanks for a fantastic link............I hate to admit that I now need such a website. It's like seeing those age brackets on forms and realising that you're further down the list tha you used to be! I think they should do them in reverse order to give us wrinklies the occasional boost!
Happy to be of assistance!!! I found it a while back and luckily bookmarked it. I happened to remember about its existence because of the subject of ageism in this thread.

I know what you mean. It seems strange to be almost the big 4 0. I have to scroll my age group further down the page too!
 
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Originally Posted by cornishvellan
Happy to be of assistance!!! I found it a while back and luckily bookmarked it. I happened to remember about its existence because of the subject of ageism in this thread.

I know what you mean. It seems strange to be almost the big 4 0. I have to scroll my age group further down the page too!
On the age discrimination laws, as another person posted, it happens. Laws are made for law abiding citizens. Then there are..............

The CAADE link is great. Never knew existed, thanks! That should go to the UK links topic.

I agree with the statement that it is myself putting me on homelesness. If I had any other choice, I would go for it. But I do not.

Life in the sun is great if you are younger. But I have done it and enjoyed it for a while, but it is time for a reality check. I appreciate all the objective posts here.
 
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Have you thought of contacting Shelter? They might be able to give you some advice on what to do:

http://england.shelter.org.uk/
 
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Is there no way that you could cut your expenses to the bone and for the next few months save?

Of course I'm saying this without knowing your expense and obligations, but just asking.

I know for myself I could cut down on a lot, cable TV, eating out, buying books, collecting 'stuff' etc.

Just a suggestion and I apologise in advance if this comes across as rude or presumptuous.

Good luck.
 
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I dont see why you couldnt come home and work at whatever you can pick up in wherever you can pick it up in until you get settled and can bring your family over. My boys never had a problem (they were younger than you though) picking up all sorts of casual work. For cheap digs and casual work you could do worse than try The Gumtree
 
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Originally Posted by Emma M
You shouldn't have ageism problems with employment in the UK, there is a law against that.
If anything, that law has made it more difficult for older people to find work. Now employers have a good reason not to hire them.

Originally Posted by Emma M
An employer cannot refuse you employment based on your age.
All they have to do is refuse employment for some other reason. Impossible to disprove.
 
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Originally Posted by whereamifrom
I contacted Eastbourne Council to see what assistance I could get as a returning expat who has never lived in the UK nor paid any taxes of any kind. Zero.
You may want to check here, you'll probably get a different answer.

http://www.eastbourne.gov.uk/benefitscalculator/
 
Old Jul 30th 2008 | 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by whereamifrom
Luckily, I am only 46.

I will try to make it short. I grew up in South America and in my late teens moved to the USA, where I lived until 2000.

My first trip to the UK was in 1998 to visit relatives and I fell in love with the place, but I felt out of place.

Left USA after Bush was elected and have lived in Thailand ever since. Married with a lovely lady and have a 2 year old boy.

In 2000 I went back to the UK for 6 months to test the job market there. At the time I was about 39. Everywhere I went, I faced the "we are looking for a younger candidate. Your years of experience do not qualify you" bs.

I actually left disgusted.

But, the situation in Thailand is getting worse. The political situation, Royal family problems and border issues, make this place a xenophobic area which I am not willing to partake in. Never mind the lack of quality schools.

Anyway, I am looking to go back to Queen's country and try again. My wife will stay in Thailand while I go job hunting. Most of my technical certifications are all expired. I am currently teaching a large Korean community English and perhaps that is what I am good at, as opposed to an office environment.

No savings to speak of. I will return with maybe 1000 or so pounds. Eastbourne area, but SE England for sure, unless I get a job elsewhere.

I contacted Eastbourne Council to see what assistance I could get as a returning expat who has never lived in the UK nor paid any taxes of any kind. Zero. One of my friends suggested I change to a Polish name and apply.

Is it really that tough there?

I mean, I land at Heathrow and I am homeless??????

Any suggestions are most appreciated. God, if you read this far, you are really bored!

Thanks.
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I'm intrigued....okay, nosey, then........how can you be a "returning expat" if you've never lived in the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by oldbag
I'm intrigued....okay, nosey, then........how can you be a "returning expat" if you've never lived in the UK?
Taking a wild guess - but the OP may be British through his parents and never lived in the UK himself because they raised him abroad and he continued his life abroad... might be wrong, but the OP does talk about relatives in the UK.
 
Old Jul 30th 2008 | 11:32 am
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Taking a wild guess - but the OP may be British through his parents and never lived in the UK himself because they raised him abroad and he continued his life abroad... might be wrong, but the OP does talk about relatives in the UK.
Is he, then, an expat, or am I just being pedantic?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriate..........."upbringing" and "legal residence" seem to be the key words here.
 
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Is he, then, an expat, or am I just being pedantic?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriate..........."upbringing" and "legal residence" seem to be the key words here.
Yes, pedantic, I am sure... ha ha.

I was there until I was 4. So I qualify for expat label. 6 of 1 or half dozen of the other. Irrelevant.

Thanks to the others for the additional links.

I was born in Wimbledon, so I am English by birth. Relatives have problems of their own and I do not wish to bother anyone. I am 46 and I need to fix this issue myself.

Finding a job is not a problem. I will find one very quickly. finding a job that will support family once they arrive (or support while they are waiting for paperwork and flight costs) is another matter entirely.

My only weakness, as far as I can tell, is that no taxes ever paid, other than the very high 17.5 VAT we all have to pay.

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Is he, then, an expat, or am I just being pedantic?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriate..........."upbringing" and "legal residence" seem to be the key words here.
I feel very sad to here about your current predicament, but as far as I know there is absolutely no way that you will get any support, be it DHS benefits, or housing unless you can fund the latter yourself. Plus I am sure that there is something in the UK legislation in relation to citizenship. I might be wrong but there is a period of time that one being out of the country cannot automatically gain rights to UK resources, as I said I am not sure so you should look online.
You will struggle to find employment but I am sure you will find some thing even if it means working in a supermarket. I understand things are hard for you and It is no good staying somewhere that you do not like, but you should try to save as much as you can because you will need so much money in the Uk to secure rental accommodation, food and transport and to support your family abroad.
 


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