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Old Apr 8th 2008 | 6:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Notts_bloke
Is that a photo of Nottingham in your avatar bluejohn? Looks like Watson Forthergill's council house to me!

I am in Sydney too. Been here a year now. I miss the culture/history of the UK (yes even Nottingham).

Can't imagine staying here too long. I suppose the laid back lifestyle is good for some. I just feel like I have lost my drive and motivation since I got here.
Yes it is! I was living at Beeston. I had never lived in Nottingham before and I love it. The people are great and to be honest I was a bIt bothered by the stories about chavs etc. These things do go on but in 4 days in Sydney I have witnessed some rotten behaviour and in 6 months in England I had never had any problems makes you wonder doesn't it?
 
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Originally Posted by bluejohn
Yes it is! I was living at Beeston. I had never lived in Nottingham before and I love it. The people are great and to be honest I was a bIt bothered by the stories about chavs etc. These things do go on but in 4 days in Sydney I have witnessed some rotten behaviour and in 6 months in England I had never had any problems makes you wonder doesn't it?
I am biased as its my home town, but there was a vibe in Nottingham (and Bristol where I lived before I moved here.) which is sadly missing in Sydney.I think Nottingham gets a very bad rep. Gun crime (and other violent crime) is as bad if not worse in Sydney (especially in the West) but you hardly hear about it.

I think sometimes us Brits have a tendancy to believe everything we hear, whereas Aussies either deny or ignore anything bad happens here.

My wife won't be happy but I am going home for a holiday next month and I am not sure I want to come back to Oz.
 
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Originally Posted by bil
Surely there have to be a store of amazing memories from having lived in such an unusual country.
How long did you live in Australia bil?
 
Old Apr 8th 2008 | 7:29 pm
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Originally Posted by troj
Hi everyone!

First off, I have really enjoyed reading all your posts. I have spent a fair amount of time on the BE/Australia forum and was beginning to think I was the only one who could see the negatives to living here.

Thankfully I found MBTTUK forum! We are not alone!

We have been here (Brisbane) for nearly two years and the first 12 months were fine (I suppose in hindsight, 'the honeymoon period'). In July we found out we were expecting our first child - which was great news as we'd always planned to have kids, but maybe after we were totally settled and sure where we wanted to be. As it has turned out, the pregnancy has made us terribly homesick.
Our little boy was born just one month ago and this exciting time has been diluted by having to introduce him to his family via the internet

My OH has always been a bit unsure about staying or going and as she is one of five sisters (three of them have kids of their own), and now being a mother herself, the pull of home is getting stronger all the time.

For me, the reasons for wanting to go back to England are not as emotional. I feel, as some of you do, cheated by the advertised or percieved Australian way of life

i) Most of my neighbours come home from work in their car, 'buzz' the garage door, drive in and shut the door behind them. So you rarely get to 'have chat over the garden fence'.
ii) Outdoor lifestyle?? We spend less time outdoors than we did in England. Like most people, we spend alot of time during the day trying to stay out of direct sunlight.
iii) The driving Why does the average Aussie go from being the stereotype 'laid back, do it tomorrow' type of guy/woman; To the most impatient and inconsiderate fool once behind the wheel of a car???
I love driving and still consider having a driving licence a privilage but, driving in Brisbane is annoying and hazardous to say the least. And the Police think catching people speeding will solve the problem Maybe stop people tailgating, under taking, jumping lights and limit the speed trucks are able to reach
iv) Cost of living. eg, $3.60 for a loaf of decent bread
v) Feel very isolated.
vi) Beaches are nice, but because of our work, we don't live anywhere near them. Same goes for the rainforests.
vii) Miss the pubs, country pub meals, drives through the countryside.
viii) For some reason, I've lost alot of motivation at work... not sure why?
ix) We know how the system works in England. Always feel like I have to be on guard so I don't get my pants pulled down!

Thats enough for now!

Paul
Agree with everything you say

We too spend more time indoors here (invariably watching TV or on the computer) than we did in the UK - which we hate.

Weekends are great in that you can always find something to do and the fine weather allows you to do it

During the week though, if you work office hours, once you get home from work and close the door, that's the end of your day.

We didn't come here to spend our spare time doing what we did in the UK or having to join a gym or other indoor class to pass the time.

The darkness and lack of 'community' is something we never really expected.

We went for a walk last night at around 8pm around our neighbourhood and did not see a single person.

The only places where you see 'life' after dark, here in the suburbs, are the Coffee Club or McDonalds.

I find the standard of driving here frightening. Appalling in fact.

There are many other reasons which make me feel as though we may need to consider returning to the UK but I'll save those for another day.
 
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There are many other reasons which make me feel as though we may need to consider returning to the UK but I'll save those for another day.[/QUOTE]

Ah...go on....you know you want to!
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Old Apr 8th 2008 | 7:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Notts_bloke
I am biased as its my home town, but there was a vibe in Nottingham (and Bristol where I lived before I moved here.) which is sadly missing in Sydney.I think Nottingham gets a very bad rep. Gun crime (and other violent crime) is as bad if not worse in Sydney (especially in the West) but you hardly hear about it.

I think sometimes us Brits have a tendancy to believe everything we hear, whereas Aussies either deny or ignore anything bad happens here.

My wife won't be happy but I am going home for a holiday next month and I am not sure I want to come back to Oz.
I think there is just as much rubbish goes on here but the attitudes in the media are different. I agree with you about the vibe, I fell in love with the place and many Australians live and work there too.

I hope you enjoy the holiday, can I ask how long you have been here? They have done a lot of things to the city and many people do like living there. Enjoy it you really won't have to try very hard!
 
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Originally Posted by troj
Hi everyone!

First off, I have really enjoyed reading all your posts. I have spent a fair amount of time on the BE/Australia forum and was beginning to think I was the only one who could see the negatives to living here.

Thankfully I found MBTTUK forum! We are not alone!

We have been here (Brisbane) for nearly two years and the first 12 months were fine (I suppose in hindsight, 'the honeymoon period'). In July we found out we were expecting our first child - which was great news as we'd always planned to have kids, but maybe after we were totally settled and sure where we wanted to be. As it has turned out, the pregnancy has made us terribly homesick.
Our little boy was born just one month ago and this exciting time has been diluted by having to introduce him to his family via the internet

My OH has always been a bit unsure about staying or going and as she is one of five sisters (three of them have kids of their own), and now being a mother herself, the pull of home is getting stronger all the time.

For me, the reasons for wanting to go back to England are not as emotional. I feel, as some of you do, cheated by the advertised or percieved Australian way of life

i) Most of my neighbours come home from work in their car, 'buzz' the garage door, drive in and shut the door behind them. So you rarely get to 'have chat over the garden fence'.
ii) Outdoor lifestyle?? We spend less time outdoors than we did in England. Like most people, we spend alot of time during the day trying to stay out of direct sunlight.
iii) The driving Why does the average Aussie go from being the stereotype 'laid back, do it tomorrow' type of guy/woman; To the most impatient and inconsiderate fool once behind the wheel of a car???
I love driving and still consider having a driving licence a privilage but, driving in Brisbane is annoying and hazardous to say the least. And the Police think catching people speeding will solve the problem Maybe stop people tailgating, under taking, jumping lights and limit the speed trucks are able to reach
iv) Cost of living. eg, $3.60 for a loaf of decent bread
v) Feel very isolated.
vi) Beaches are nice, but because of our work, we don't live anywhere near them. Same goes for the rainforests.
vii) Miss the pubs, country pub meals, drives through the countryside.
viii) For some reason, I've lost alot of motivation at work... not sure why?
ix) We know how the system works in England. Always feel like I have to be on guard so I don't get my pants pulled down!

Thats enough for now!


Paul


Great Post Paul. Are you then planning to return to the UK. I agree with all your observations.
 
Old Apr 8th 2008 | 9:28 pm
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Originally Posted by troj
Hi everyone!

First off, I have really enjoyed reading all your posts. I have spent a fair amount of time on the BE/Australia forum and was beginning to think I was the only one who could see the negatives to living here.

Thankfully I found MBTTUK forum! We are not alone!

We have been here (Brisbane) for nearly two years and the first 12 months were fine (I suppose in hindsight, 'the honeymoon period'). In July we found out we were expecting our first child - which was great news as we'd always planned to have kids, but maybe after we were totally settled and sure where we wanted to be. As it has turned out, the pregnancy has made us terribly homesick.
Our little boy was born just one month ago and this exciting time has been diluted by having to introduce him to his family via the internet

My OH has always been a bit unsure about staying or going and as she is one of five sisters (three of them have kids of their own), and now being a mother herself, the pull of home is getting stronger all the time.

For me, the reasons for wanting to go back to England are not as emotional. I feel, as some of you do, cheated by the advertised or percieved Australian way of life

i) Most of my neighbours come home from work in their car, 'buzz' the garage door, drive in and shut the door behind them. So you rarely get to 'have chat over the garden fence'.
ii) Outdoor lifestyle?? We spend less time outdoors than we did in England. Like most people, we spend alot of time during the day trying to stay out of direct sunlight.
iii) The driving Why does the average Aussie go from being the stereotype 'laid back, do it tomorrow' type of guy/woman; To the most impatient and inconsiderate fool once behind the wheel of a car???
I love driving and still consider having a driving licence a privilage but, driving in Brisbane is annoying and hazardous to say the least. And the Police think catching people speeding will solve the problem Maybe stop people tailgating, under taking, jumping lights and limit the speed trucks are able to reach
iv) Cost of living. eg, $3.60 for a loaf of decent bread
v) Feel very isolated.
vi) Beaches are nice, but because of our work, we don't live anywhere near them. Same goes for the rainforests.
vii) Miss the pubs, country pub meals, drives through the countryside.
viii) For some reason, I've lost alot of motivation at work... not sure why?
ix) We know how the system works in England. Always feel like I have to be on guard so I don't get my pants pulled down!

Thats enough for now!

Paul
Welcome to MBTTUK Paul - great post! Hope that whatever you end up doing works out well for you!
 
Old Apr 9th 2008 | 12:27 am
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Originally Posted by bil
Don't regret it.

On our deathbeds what we usually say is 'I wish I had done that' Not the reverse.
I must be an exception - I totally 100% regret it every single day of my life. I don't hate or blame Australia in any way but just wish I had appreciated what I had.

Can't turn back the clock though
 
Old Apr 9th 2008 | 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by bluejohn
I think there is just as much rubbish goes on here but the attitudes in the media are different. I agree with you about the vibe, I fell in love with the place and many Australians live and work there too.

I hope you enjoy the holiday, can I ask how long you have been here? They have done a lot of things to the city and many people do like living there. Enjoy it you really won't have to try very hard!

I have been here a year now. Probably staying for 2 in total. There is lots of urban regeneration happening in Nottingham, which is another reason I fancy a move back. I am a town planner and the chance to change my home town is a big draw.
 
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Originally Posted by isleofmanmike
Hi Jackie

Watched the MC v Chelsea game live at my local......the score didn't reflect the game and if it wasn't for the own goal I think the result may have been different.

I was in Stockport last week with my son, he was going to a concert in Manchester. I was staying in Great Moor and had a great time.....the train station was five minute walk and a return ticket to manchester for myself and two teanagers was only £4.60. Took about 15 mins.....the was four of us for lunch at weatherspoons and cost us £18.00 and that also included a drink each (two pints of real ale and two cokes)......can't believe the people who call Britain for ripping them off.
How much would you pay in Perth for the same.....I bet a lot more than $40
Oh know you are being really cruel......one: we cannot walk to a train station...two: I could only dream of having a meal with drinks costing 18.00!! $40.00 would buy me a meal and maybe a starter if I was eating alone....never mind for 4 people!!!...we went to Witherspoons when we were home last year and we thought they were excellent value for money.....and great beer as well..(I don't drink beer though but always like to taste new brands....well thats my excuse)
Watched the hightlights of the game and yes the score did not reflect the play!!! just hope we win the last few games, it would be nice to finish the season with the hope that we are really "building" a good side...I have every faith in our Manager (and the owner's money).....I know all around the Heatons and know Great Moor fairly well.....I was bought up in Danebank so Stockport was our nearest Town, they use to have some lovely old winebars and pubs around the Heaton Chapel area....
Our home goes on the market next week...so fingers crossed...we may be having "Pub Grub" down by the Shambles and I still enjoy the Cheese Platter at the Marc Addy........
Have a good weekend.......what concert was your son going to?
Jackie in a rainy but warm Perth today......yuck
 
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Originally Posted by Notts_bloke
I am biased as its my home town, but there was a vibe in Nottingham (and Bristol where I lived before I moved here.) which is sadly missing in Sydney.I think Nottingham gets a very bad rep. Gun crime (and other violent crime) is as bad if not worse in Sydney (especially in the West) but you hardly hear about it.

I think sometimes us Brits have a tendancy to believe everything we hear, whereas Aussies either deny or ignore anything bad happens here.

My wife won't be happy but I am going home for a holiday next month and I am not sure I want to come back to Oz.
I loved Nottingham, I went many moons ago, about 22 years old....had a great time at the "olde Inn in the wall"...(I think thats the right name)...the great oak in the forest....was just lovely to see....(I use to love Robin Hood)...your never far from anything really in Nottingham....oh and the people were very friendly...I was told that (not sure if it's true) but 100's of years ago it was said that Nottingham Ladies were the best looking in England....(hey what am I saying....I am from Manchester...it cannot be true!!!!)ha ha...want to go to the Goose Fair as well....I believe that is amazing....Jackie in Perth who agrees with everything Paul has to say......
 
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Originally Posted by LouiseD
I must be an exception - I totally 100% regret it every single day of my life. I don't hate or blame Australia in any way but just wish I had appreciated what I had.

Can't turn back the clock though
Some days I feel that way, especially with all the stress you go through to get back home....I weigh up 10 years here and think "was it worth it"....not really....it was okay...but that's all....would I have migrated with hindsight...no....and it has not been a bad 10 years....just wish we had realised just how good we had it when we lived at home...you live and learn...
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Originally Posted by brits1
I was bought up in Danebank so Stockport was our nearest Town,

Hey I am from Denton

we may be having "Pub Grub" down by the Shambles and I still enjoy the Cheese Platter at the Marc Addy........
Have a good weekend.......what concert was your son going to?
Jackie in a rainy but warm Perth today......yuck
I used to loved going to the Shambles when I worked behind Kendals in 1990's and also you just gave me a blast from the past with the Marc Addy and their Cheese platters - they used to do it with pate too years ago mmmmmmmmmm

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Originally Posted by Notts_bloke
I have been here a year now. Probably staying for 2 in total. There is lots of urban regeneration happening in Nottingham, which is another reason I fancy a move back. I am a town planner and the chance to change my home town is a big draw.
Your right about the regeneration, they have done a lot and the council seems to be very forward in it's thinking. I am surprised that you said one year, I think you would be surprised by the place (in a positive way) and being a town planner certainly gives you the opportunity to make a difference. I have been here 40 years this September and the UK is no where near has bad as the media and the whinging miseries would have you believe.
 


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