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Old Apr 18th 2012, 4:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Ethelred_the_Unready
Keep evading the question....
I miss the place where, as kids, we could go off on our bikes for a whole day, or out after dark and our parents wouldn't worry about us.

I miss the place where the police, teachers and other figures of authority were respected by children/youth and not spat at and abused. Where discipline existed.

I miss the place where gangs only fought each other and not innocent people.

Before you build yet another straw man and tell me this is all the same in the US, the original post and everything I've commented on, has been about the UK.
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Originally Posted by N1cky
I must admit one thing I love here is when you go to shopping centres and you have all the nice couch areas with room to sit down and have a cup of coffee. In the UK they would be covered in fag holes with teenage chavs hogging them all and glaring at anyone who dared to try and sit down.

I don't get the mentality of many in the UK of destroying things just for the sake of it. You don't go to playgrounds in the US and find dog shit smeared down the slide and broken glass everywhere.
Sounds very nice, but I have never seen any shopping centres with couch areas in my 10 years in the US.
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Old Apr 18th 2012, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Moneybrother
Maybe because you brought up unemployment in the UK.....
I brought it up, because Sally said "All the people I know are employed and doing fine, most have multiple holidays every year."

Clear enough for you?
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Originally Posted by Uncle Ebenezer
I miss the place where, as kids, we could go off on our bikes for a whole day, or out after dark and our parents wouldn't worry about us.

I miss the place where the police, teachers and other figures of authority were respected by children/youth and not spat at and abused. Where discipline existed.

I miss the place where gangs only fought each other and not innocent people.

Before you build yet another straw man and tell me this is all the same in the US, the original post and everything I've commented on, has been about the UK.
That's not a reason for not liking the UK though, that's not liking what society has become worldwide.

Originally Posted by Moneybrother
Sounds very nice, but I have never seen any shopping centres with couch areas in my 10 years in the US.
Really? You need to get out to the nice bits a bit more often. I'm not sure I've been to a mall in the US that hasn't had them.
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Originally Posted by Uncle Ebenezer
I brought it up, because Sally said "All the people I know are employed and doing fine, most have multiple holidays every year."

Clear enough for you?
fair enough dude
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Old Apr 18th 2012, 4:40 pm
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Default Re: First trip back to UK in nearly 2 years......

Originally Posted by Uncle Ebenezer
I miss the place where, as kids, we could go off on our bikes for a whole day, or out after dark and our parents wouldn't worry about us.

I miss the place where the police, teachers and other figures of authority were respected by children/youth and not spat at and abused. Where discipline existed.

I miss the place where gangs only fought each other and not innocent people.

Before you build yet another straw man and tell me this is all the same in the US, the original post and everything I've commented on, has been about the UK.
You just miss a bygone era; the UK actually has nothing to do with it, in reality.

Applied to the world in general, I might just agree with you on much of that.
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Originally Posted by N1cky
I must admit one thing I love here is when you go to shopping centres and you have all the nice couch areas with room to sit down and have a cup of coffee. In the UK they would be covered in fag holes with teenage chavs hogging them all and glaring at anyone who dared to try and sit down.

I don't get the mentality of many in the UK of destroying things just for the sake of it. You don't go to playgrounds in the US and find dog shit smeared down the slide and broken glass everywhere.
Yes

They put some nice sofas in the new shopping centre in Solihull, but they were usually packed with people shovelling Greggs pasties down their throats/dropping everywhere.

Yes that destruction thing is weird. If I see a nice mural or statue here I wonder how long it would last in the UK
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Old Apr 18th 2012, 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Leslie

I'll weigh in on that. He's a vicious bastard but definitely not a racist.
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Originally Posted by Ethelred_the_Unready
You just miss a bygone era; the UK actually has nothing to do with it, in reality.

Applied to the world in general, I might just agree with you on much of that.
Yes definitely.

Eb, you must be in a very sheltered part of the US if there is no gang activity.
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Old Apr 18th 2012, 4:42 pm
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Default Re: First trip back to UK in nearly 2 years......

Originally Posted by Uncle Ebenezer
I miss the place where, as kids, we could go off on our bikes for a whole day, or out after dark and our parents wouldn't worry about us.

I miss the place where the police, teachers and other figures of authority were respected by children/youth and not spat at and abused. Where discipline existed.

I miss the place where gangs only fought each other and not innocent people.

Before you build yet another straw man and tell me this is all the same in the US, the original post and everything I've commented on, has been about the UK.
For what it's worth, I can understand your position given the experiences you descibed you and your parents having in your old hometown and I am sad that something like that had to happen at all, irrespective of where it took place.
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I've given this quite a bit of thought and I generally hate airports. Fact.
Don't we all? Horrible impersonal spaces, full of people rushing around in a stressed out state of mind.
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Really? You need to get out to the nice bits a bit more often. I'm not sure I've been to a mall in the US that hasn't had them.
Nope. Ok, I MIGHT have seen such an area in Raleigh-Durham, NC. Not 100% sure. Usually there is a co-called food court with metal (or plastic) chairs so one can sit there and chew on a burger or chick-fil a sandwich.
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Yes

They put some nice sofas in the new shopping centre in Solihull, but they were usually packed with people shovelling Greggs pasties down their throats/dropping everywhere.

Yes that destruction thing is weird. If I see a nice mural or statue here I wonder how long it would last in the UK
I hope you didn't like that God awful spray foam statue of Workers or whatever it was in Brum, that caught fire and melted.
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Originally Posted by N1cky
Really? You need to get out to the nice bits a bit more often. I'm not sure I've been to a mall in the US that hasn't had them.
Me either the local ones all have couches/arm chairs.

No fag burns either, although there has been no indoor smoking in the UK for quite a while so you probably wouldn't find them in the UK either.
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Yes

They put some nice sofas in the new shopping centre in Solihull, but they were usually packed with people shovelling Greggs pasties down their throats/dropping everywhere.

Yes that destruction thing is weird. If I see a nice mural or statue here I wonder how long it would last in the UK
Funny you should mention the murals. I once saw a gable end in Belfast that was sprayed with the notice 'Reserved for UDA mural"
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