Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
#496
Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
My son also had mild ezcema and asthma, but wasn't bullied because of that. The bullying only started at his first school here. He would always finish his work first and was good with computers, so the teacher used to let him go into the library to get info for him from the computer. I think that's what started it. Then he was chosen by the school to read at the Anzac Day service in Kings Park here in Perth. He was in the school library one day when afew lads walked in and kicked the book he was looking at. One of them, the ringleader, called him gay because he liked reading and that was it. From that day, they would line up to kick him, call him gay, throw his lunch in the sand and tip his water on it. He would come home black and blue, but tell me it was play fighting. I asked why his lunch box was always wet and he said he didn't know, so I got suspicious. Then he pleaded with me to tell the teacher that he couldn't do the reading for Anzac Day, so finally I got it out of him. I went to see the teacher and he said my son could speak at the school service instead. Two days later I got an emergency phone call from the school. He had been beaten to a pulp. The doctor thought his jaw was broken and his eye was so badly cut that we could see his bone. It was horrendous. Thankfully his jaw wasn't broken, but he had to have regular visits to the hospital for his eye. It took over a year for the awful lump on his pupil to disappear.
I had threatened afew kids before, but they just called me names and laughed, which made me even more angry. They know the police can do nothing. We changed our sons school 3 times. They were awful times.
I had threatened afew kids before, but they just called me names and laughed, which made me even more angry. They know the police can do nothing. We changed our sons school 3 times. They were awful times.
That is just so awful. Even though mine was bullied, it never was that bad. I'm glad it's all behind him now.
#497
Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
It just breaks your heart doesn't it, you feel so helpless. When my son was in year 12, a neighbours daughter was in year 9 and was being mentally bullied by a group of girls at their school. The trouble was, they would carry it on in the evenings via txt's and msn. I told my son this was going on, after having her mother tell me about it. I found out a week later that my son had quietly gone and spoken to the girls and one boy who was involved in the bullying and, given them a warning that he would be looking out for our neighbours daughter from then on and would report any bullying to the Student Principal. He didn't tell me this, the mother and grandmother came up to the house to thank my son in person for protecting the daughter and putting a stop to the bullying. They had also informed the schools Student Principal and we got a wonderful letter saying they were proud to have him as a student in their school and that it would go down on his student record. I was a proud mum that day.
But i guess the only consolation you can take from something like this is that it will make your son and other kids who have suffered in this way far more mindful of other peoples feelings and a better person for it.
Good luck to him
#498
Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
Please do not belive all the bullshit in the papers and the media about whats wrong with the UK, it is blown-up vastly out of proportion by our pathetic media, the same goes on in many Countries, in Paris I saw more ferrell youths gathered in gangs than I ever have in the UK.
#499
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No, they never did anything. In fact they used to say he was the 'trouble maker' because he didn't just take it from them and used to give the a bit of backchat. But the amount of times he came home with his clothes torn, or bruises where they had belted him was too many to count.
That is just so awful. Even though mine was bullied, it never was that bad. I'm glad it's all behind him now.
That is just so awful. Even though mine was bullied, it never was that bad. I'm glad it's all behind him now.
Well I do hope so Flea and I was so proud that he put forward his support for our neighbours daughter and without making a fuss too. He has made a number of friends at uni in the past 3 years and has had a serious girfriend for 3 years also, so he is quite happy now I think. He's certainly grown up that's for sure. He has always been a softie, but a sociable child too, so I know the bullying knocked the stuffing out of him. He had so many friends back home. When he left his nursery to go to school at age 4½, one of the qualified teachers there said that he would never be bullied and would never be a bully either. She said they will all miss him as he was not only pleasant but fun too, whatever that meant.
#500
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Bullying is dreadful in any form Wendy. It hurts you like hell doesn't it?
Well hello Flea, how nice to finally 'see' you.
Well I do hope so Flea and I was so proud that he put forward his support for our neighbours daughter and without making a fuss too. He has made a number of friends at uni in the past 3 years and has had a serious girfriend for 3 years also, so he is quite happy now I think. He's certainly grown up that's for sure. He has always been a softie, but a sociable child too, so I know the bullying knocked the stuffing out of him. He had so many friends back home. When he left his nursery to go to school at age 4½, one of the qualified teachers there said that he would never be bullied and would never be a bully either. She said they will all miss him as he was not only pleasant but fun too, whatever that meant.
Well hello Flea, how nice to finally 'see' you.
Well I do hope so Flea and I was so proud that he put forward his support for our neighbours daughter and without making a fuss too. He has made a number of friends at uni in the past 3 years and has had a serious girfriend for 3 years also, so he is quite happy now I think. He's certainly grown up that's for sure. He has always been a softie, but a sociable child too, so I know the bullying knocked the stuffing out of him. He had so many friends back home. When he left his nursery to go to school at age 4½, one of the qualified teachers there said that he would never be bullied and would never be a bully either. She said they will all miss him as he was not only pleasant but fun too, whatever that meant.
#501
Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
No, they never did anything. In fact they used to say he was the 'trouble maker' because he didn't just take it from them and used to give the a bit of backchat. But the amount of times he came home with his clothes torn, or bruises where they had belted him was too many to count.
#502
Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
Poor little mite. Surely the teachers had a chat to the children about ezcema/asthma? My son also had mild ezcema and asthma, but wasn't bullied because of that. The bullying only started at his first school here. He would always finish his work first and was good with computers, so the teacher used to let him go into the library to get info for him from the computer. I think that's what started it. Then he was chosen by the school to read at the Anzac Day service in Kings Park here in Perth. He was in the school library one day when afew lads walked in and kicked the book he was looking at. One of them, the ringleader, called him gay because he liked reading and that was it. From that day, they would line up to kick him, call him gay, throw his lunch in the sand and tip his water on it. He would come home black and blue, but tell me it was play fighting. I asked why his lunch box was always wet and he said he didn't know, so I got suspicious. Then he pleaded with me to tell the teacher that he couldn't do the reading for Anzac Day, so finally I got it out of him. I went to see the teacher and he said my son could speak at the school service instead. Two days later I got an emergency phone call from the school. He had been beaten to a pulp. The doctor thought his jaw was broken and his eye was so badly cut that we could see his bone. It was horrendous. Thankfully his jaw wasn't broken, but he had to have regular visits to the hospital for his eye. It took over a year for the awful lump on his pupil to disappear.
I had threatened afew kids before, but they just called me names and laughed, which made me even more angry. They know the police can do nothing. We changed our sons school 3 times. They were awful times.
I had threatened afew kids before, but they just called me names and laughed, which made me even more angry. They know the police can do nothing. We changed our sons school 3 times. They were awful times.
However what goes around comes around - I'm sure one day those little sh*ts will get what they deserve.
#503
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Your boy sounds like a really lovely lad. What a tough time he has been through. I can imagine, as a parent, that it must be really hard to reconcile your move here when it sounds like he's had quite an awful time of it when you moved here for a "better life". That must be an awful feeling as parents when we all try and do the best for our kids. I wish you the best for your move back.
Well I did hear that one of them has recently had his car stolen and I have to admit, that I wasn't sorry for the lad.
Last edited by St.Georges Girl; Jan 19th 2008 at 12:57 am.
#504
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Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
You know what? I thank you all so much for taking the trouble to reply to my inane wafflings. I appreciate everyone's opinions so much and try to digest them all.
Like I said, February will be the final make or break decision time in this household. I have swung to and fro for years about this, debating, discussing, weighing up pro's and con's but it always always boils down to the same thing, I have never, and don't think I will ever, feel like Perth is my home.
So, February it is then. Do we move to a Devon village, or find somewhere else in Oz to try again?
Thanks again guys. Give yourselves a pat on the back for just being really nice people.
Like I said, February will be the final make or break decision time in this household. I have swung to and fro for years about this, debating, discussing, weighing up pro's and con's but it always always boils down to the same thing, I have never, and don't think I will ever, feel like Perth is my home.
So, February it is then. Do we move to a Devon village, or find somewhere else in Oz to try again?
Thanks again guys. Give yourselves a pat on the back for just being really nice people.
#505
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Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
HI Everyone!!
I have been following this thread as I too am going back to england.
You have all been so brave to cope with all the bullying etc. St. Georges girl, how long have you been here? What a terrible thing to happen I would have been in a heap.
We too came from a good area and had a good life and house etc.. Thought we would try something different, and give the kids more opportunities, better schools, outdoor life etc.... Boy how wrong was I!!!!!!
Luckily, we rented our house out at home so we intend to go back there!
You dont realise what you had til its gone, we miss our family and friends, and find we actually go out less here than at home.
I was worried to take my kids back to the uk, because of the violence and drugs etc (son is 17) I soon learnt that all that happens here but is not in the media just swept under the carpet.
Thanks for sharing your experiences, because when you decide to go home people think you are mad, and you should love australia!!
Lorraine
I have been following this thread as I too am going back to england.
You have all been so brave to cope with all the bullying etc. St. Georges girl, how long have you been here? What a terrible thing to happen I would have been in a heap.
We too came from a good area and had a good life and house etc.. Thought we would try something different, and give the kids more opportunities, better schools, outdoor life etc.... Boy how wrong was I!!!!!!
Luckily, we rented our house out at home so we intend to go back there!
You dont realise what you had til its gone, we miss our family and friends, and find we actually go out less here than at home.
I was worried to take my kids back to the uk, because of the violence and drugs etc (son is 17) I soon learnt that all that happens here but is not in the media just swept under the carpet.
Thanks for sharing your experiences, because when you decide to go home people think you are mad, and you should love australia!!
Lorraine
#506
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Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
hi well we are going to emigrate because the uk in my opinion is fast going down hill ! where i was born they have schools where if your white you are th odd one out! and the houes rents and prices are just stupid , how are our kids going to be able to buy a house they will live at home forever at this rate!!
Sorry uk but it's all for the imagrants and asylem seekers the brits get nout ! I wouldn't mind being the minority in another country but not my own !!
(im not being racist just saying how i feel)
Sorry uk but it's all for the imagrants and asylem seekers the brits get nout ! I wouldn't mind being the minority in another country but not my own !!
(im not being racist just saying how i feel)
#507
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Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
hi well we are going to emigrate because the uk in my opinion is fast going down hill ! where i was born they have schools where if your white you are th odd one out! and the houes rents and prices are just stupid , how are our kids going to be able to buy a house they will live at home forever at this rate!!
Sorry uk but it's all for the imagrants and asylem seekers the brits get nout ! I wouldn't mind being the minority in another country but not my own !!
(im not being racist just saying how i feel)
Sorry uk but it's all for the imagrants and asylem seekers the brits get nout ! I wouldn't mind being the minority in another country but not my own !!
(im not being racist just saying how i feel)
#508
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Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
hi well we are going to emigrate because the uk in my opinion is fast going down hill ! where i was born they have schools where if your white you are th odd one out! and the houes rents and prices are just stupid , how are our kids going to be able to buy a house they will live at home forever at this rate!!
Sorry uk but it's all for the imagrants and asylem seekers the brits get nout ! I wouldn't mind being the minority in another country but not my own !!
(im not being racist just saying how i feel)
Sorry uk but it's all for the imagrants and asylem seekers the brits get nout ! I wouldn't mind being the minority in another country but not my own !!
(im not being racist just saying how i feel)
All those problems you mentioned are in oz!!! We can not afford to get on the property ladder let alone our children, prices in WA have rocketed. A few years ago you could buy a block of land $100 000 then build a fanastic house for $150000 (roughly, depending on areas). The ideal place for us would be burns beach, overlooking the sea etc... $800 000 just for the plot of land!!! In land you may be able to get a block of land for $280 000, but the blocks are tiny now, they have no or very little garden, not enough for that dream pool!!!!!
We too are not racist!!! we are now imigrants ourselves living in oz!!!!! and we felt the same as you no body seemed to speak english anymore in uk etc...
But you leave one country to go to another country for abetter life can be alittle bit naive!! I myself would never have admitted that until living here!!!
In my opinion both countries have different things to offer, but no one country is better than the other, it is just personal prefences!!
#509
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Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
Sorry my spelling is just as bad, been in oz toooooo long!!!! I also swear alot now and live on takeaways LOL.
It is a shame that people feel they need to go half way round the world for a better life, why not try a better area in the uk???
It is a shame that people feel they need to go half way round the world for a better life, why not try a better area in the uk???
#510
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Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
hi well we are going to emigrate because the uk in my opinion is fast going down hill ! where i was born they have schools where if your white you are th odd one out! and the houes rents and prices are just stupid , how are our kids going to be able to buy a house they will live at home forever at this rate!!
Sorry uk but it's all for the imagrants and asylem seekers the brits get nout ! I wouldn't mind being the minority in another country but not my own !!
(im not being racist just saying how i feel)
Sorry uk but it's all for the imagrants and asylem seekers the brits get nout ! I wouldn't mind being the minority in another country but not my own !!
(im not being racist just saying how i feel)