Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
Jul 27th 2005, 2:17 am
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
Martin <[email protected]> writes:
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:59:59 +0100, The Reids
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Following up to Des Small
> >
> >>>> (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
> >>>
> >>> As a vegetarian, I want to know how many also server Falafel.
> >>
> >>Oh, I think they'll serve anyone.
> >
> >so you live next door to a pub and a kebab joint and they will
> >serve anyone, posh is it? :-)
>
> Next Des will tell us he sells KFC and rents broom cupboards by the
> hour to renaissance men.
But there's no Métro in Bristol; where would he get his germs?
Des
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:59:59 +0100, The Reids
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Following up to Des Small
> >
> >>>> (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
> >>>
> >>> As a vegetarian, I want to know how many also server Falafel.
> >>
> >>Oh, I think they'll serve anyone.
> >
> >so you live next door to a pub and a kebab joint and they will
> >serve anyone, posh is it? :-)
>
> Next Des will tell us he sells KFC and rents broom cupboards by the
> hour to renaissance men.
But there's no Métro in Bristol; where would he get his germs?
Des
Jul 27th 2005, 2:19 am
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
On 27 Jul 2005 15:17:08 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> writes:
>> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:59:59 +0100, The Reids
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Following up to Des Small
>> >
>> >>>> (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
>> >>>
>> >>> As a vegetarian, I want to know how many also server Falafel.
>> >>
>> >>Oh, I think they'll serve anyone.
>> >
>> >so you live next door to a pub and a kebab joint and they will
>> >serve anyone, posh is it? :-)
>>
>> Next Des will tell us he sells KFC and rents broom cupboards by the
>> hour to renaissance men.
>But there's no Métro in Bristol; where would he get his germs?
KFC or the Kebab place?
or by self inoculation in response to requests to go stuff himself?
--
Martin
wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> writes:
>> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:59:59 +0100, The Reids
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Following up to Des Small
>> >
>> >>>> (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
>> >>>
>> >>> As a vegetarian, I want to know how many also server Falafel.
>> >>
>> >>Oh, I think they'll serve anyone.
>> >
>> >so you live next door to a pub and a kebab joint and they will
>> >serve anyone, posh is it? :-)
>>
>> Next Des will tell us he sells KFC and rents broom cupboards by the
>> hour to renaissance men.
>But there's no Métro in Bristol; where would he get his germs?
KFC or the Kebab place?
or by self inoculation in response to requests to go stuff himself?
--
Martin
Jul 27th 2005, 2:25 am
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
Following up to Martin
>>Yes, good point. I just upgraded to Agent 2 (as my killfile
>>seemed not to work reliably), it seems to have improved the
>>quality of the GOLs Excellent! :-)
>Agent 3 soon!
you get it free if you buy 2 now. BTGTF (buy two get three free)
not as good as BOGOF is it?
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>>Yes, good point. I just upgraded to Agent 2 (as my killfile
>>seemed not to work reliably), it seems to have improved the
>>quality of the GOLs Excellent! :-)
>Agent 3 soon!
you get it free if you buy 2 now. BTGTF (buy two get three free)
not as good as BOGOF is it?
--
Mike Reid
Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
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Jul 27th 2005, 2:25 am
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
Martin <[email protected]> writes:
> On 27 Jul 2005 15:17:08 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> writes:
> >
> >> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:59:59 +0100, The Reids
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Next Des will tell us he sells KFC and rents broom cupboards by the
> >> hour to renaissance men.
> >
> >But there's no Métro in Bristol; where would he get his germs?
>
> KFC or the Kebab place?
The FC around here tends to be Random Halal.
> or by self inoculation in response to requests to go stuff himself?
If he's started doing requests there's a backlog and a half to deal
with, surely?
Des
> On 27 Jul 2005 15:17:08 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> writes:
> >
> >> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:59:59 +0100, The Reids
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Next Des will tell us he sells KFC and rents broom cupboards by the
> >> hour to renaissance men.
> >
> >But there's no Métro in Bristol; where would he get his germs?
>
> KFC or the Kebab place?
The FC around here tends to be Random Halal.
> or by self inoculation in response to requests to go stuff himself?
If he's started doing requests there's a backlog and a half to deal
with, surely?
Des
Jul 27th 2005, 2:44 am
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
On 27 Jul 2005 15:25:57 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> writes:
>> On 27 Jul 2005 15:17:08 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> writes:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:59:59 +0100, The Reids
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Next Des will tell us he sells KFC and rents broom cupboards by the
>> >> hour to renaissance men.
>> >
>> >But there's no Métro in Bristol; where would he get his germs?
>>
>> KFC or the Kebab place?
>The FC around here tends to be Random Halal.
>> or by self inoculation in response to requests to go stuff himself?
>If he's started doing requests there's a backlog and a half to deal
>with, surely?
We will miss his superior knowledge when he has gone.
A giant amongst pygmies?
--
Martin
wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> writes:
>> On 27 Jul 2005 15:17:08 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> writes:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:59:59 +0100, The Reids
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Next Des will tell us he sells KFC and rents broom cupboards by the
>> >> hour to renaissance men.
>> >
>> >But there's no Métro in Bristol; where would he get his germs?
>>
>> KFC or the Kebab place?
>The FC around here tends to be Random Halal.
>> or by self inoculation in response to requests to go stuff himself?
>If he's started doing requests there's a backlog and a half to deal
>with, surely?
We will miss his superior knowledge when he has gone.
A giant amongst pygmies?
--
Martin
Jul 27th 2005, 2:48 am
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:25:38 +0100, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Martin
>>>Yes, good point. I just upgraded to Agent 2 (as my killfile
>>>seemed not to work reliably), it seems to have improved the
>>>quality of the GOLs Excellent! :-)
>>Agent 3 soon!
>you get it free if you buy 2 now.
You get as many as you want free by copying the original.
> BTGTF (buy two get three free)
>not as good as BOGOF is it?
According to R4 this morning most people discard the third book in
BTGTF offers.
You get Agent free if you are a beta tester. Mixi will explain how it
works.
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Martin
>>>Yes, good point. I just upgraded to Agent 2 (as my killfile
>>>seemed not to work reliably), it seems to have improved the
>>>quality of the GOLs Excellent! :-)
>>Agent 3 soon!
>you get it free if you buy 2 now.
You get as many as you want free by copying the original.
> BTGTF (buy two get three free)
>not as good as BOGOF is it?
According to R4 this morning most people discard the third book in
BTGTF offers.
You get Agent free if you are a beta tester. Mixi will explain how it
works.
--
Martin
Jul 27th 2005, 2:48 am
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
wrote:
> AABNE <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Is it right to have free movement of persons and labor, between
> > countries of vastly different standards of living and economic status?
> Actually, your trolling aside, the new accession countries to the EU
> haven't been given full labour yet. The UK (Ireland too?) is the only
> country so far to give full working rights to them, and while I don't
> know what effect it's having on the labour situation in those countries,
> there's no doubt that the UK is benefitting from the influx of labour-
> lots of highly skilled workers. We could do with a few more dentists
> though!
> --
> David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
> usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
its undercutted the wages throwing brits out of work .
Poles and etc now do the work for a lot less, whilst brits languish on
the dole
unemployed aslyum seekers now have established factories making bombs !
and they are subsidised by Tony Blair and thew EU !
wrote:
> AABNE <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Is it right to have free movement of persons and labor, between
> > countries of vastly different standards of living and economic status?
> Actually, your trolling aside, the new accession countries to the EU
> haven't been given full labour yet. The UK (Ireland too?) is the only
> country so far to give full working rights to them, and while I don't
> know what effect it's having on the labour situation in those countries,
> there's no doubt that the UK is benefitting from the influx of labour-
> lots of highly skilled workers. We could do with a few more dentists
> though!
> --
> David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
> usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
its undercutted the wages throwing brits out of work .
Poles and etc now do the work for a lot less, whilst brits languish on
the dole
unemployed aslyum seekers now have established factories making bombs !
and they are subsidised by Tony Blair and thew EU !
Jul 27th 2005, 2:57 am
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
Martin <[email protected]> writes:
> We will miss his superior knowledge when he has gone.
> A giant amongst pygmies?
He hasn't so much stood on the shoulders of giants as got on
everyone's tits, isn't it?
Des
> We will miss his superior knowledge when he has gone.
> A giant amongst pygmies?
He hasn't so much stood on the shoulders of giants as got on
everyone's tits, isn't it?
Des
Jul 27th 2005, 2:58 am
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
On 27 Jul 2005 15:57:03 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> writes:
>> We will miss his superior knowledge when he has gone.
>> A giant amongst pygmies?
>He hasn't so much stood on the shoulders of giants as got on
>everyone's tits, isn't it?
:-)
Miasma to confirm!
--
Martin
wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> writes:
>> We will miss his superior knowledge when he has gone.
>> A giant amongst pygmies?
>He hasn't so much stood on the shoulders of giants as got on
>everyone's tits, isn't it?
:-)
Miasma to confirm!
--
Martin
Jul 27th 2005, 3:13 am
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
Following up to Martin
>>He hasn't so much stood on the shoulders of giants as got on
>>everyone's tits, isn't it?
>:-)
>Miasma to confirm!
I might be naive here, but inspecting my new shiny working
killfile I see Magma has used a good number of email addresses to
confuse killfiles, I had thought she was a bit of a grammar
freak, not a troll. Live and learn.
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>>He hasn't so much stood on the shoulders of giants as got on
>>everyone's tits, isn't it?
>:-)
>Miasma to confirm!
I might be naive here, but inspecting my new shiny working
killfile I see Magma has used a good number of email addresses to
confuse killfiles, I had thought she was a bit of a grammar
freak, not a troll. Live and learn.
--
Mike Reid
Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
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Jul 27th 2005, 3:17 am
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
[email protected] (chancellor of the duchy of besses
o' th' barn and prestwich tesco) wrote:
>Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yes, Ireland too. The country seems to be full of Latvians and
>> Lithuanians. Smaller numbers from Poland and Lithuania,
>Did you mean Estonia?
Yes. Thank you for the proof-reading service.
>At least in Manchester, there seems to be a lot of Poles. There's
>obviously networking going on as well, so I wouldn't be surprised if a
>lot of the workers come from the same towns.
That's very much the pattern here. There is formal networking through
agencies, and informal networking of friends.
>> We have lots of unskilled and low-skilled workers from the accession
>> states; there is plenty of work for them here in factories, market
>> gardening, road construction, and in catering.
>Oh, there are those jobs too. By highly skilled, I didn't mean doctors
>and engineers, but they tend to be well educated, have good IT skills
>and so on- a lot of them are getting office work.
We get a lot of people with good levels of formal qualification, but
many of them take a low-grade job because that is what is available.
Two years in a meat factory or serving meals at Irish rates of pay and
they can go home with the price of a house.
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o' th' barn and prestwich tesco) wrote:
>Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yes, Ireland too. The country seems to be full of Latvians and
>> Lithuanians. Smaller numbers from Poland and Lithuania,
>Did you mean Estonia?
Yes. Thank you for the proof-reading service.
>At least in Manchester, there seems to be a lot of Poles. There's
>obviously networking going on as well, so I wouldn't be surprised if a
>lot of the workers come from the same towns.
That's very much the pattern here. There is formal networking through
agencies, and informal networking of friends.
>> We have lots of unskilled and low-skilled workers from the accession
>> states; there is plenty of work for them here in factories, market
>> gardening, road construction, and in catering.
>Oh, there are those jobs too. By highly skilled, I didn't mean doctors
>and engineers, but they tend to be well educated, have good IT skills
>and so on- a lot of them are getting office work.
We get a lot of people with good levels of formal qualification, but
many of them take a low-grade job because that is what is available.
Two years in a meat factory or serving meals at Irish rates of pay and
they can go home with the price of a house.
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
Jul 27th 2005, 3:19 am
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> writes:
> We get a lot of people with good levels of formal qualification, but
> many of them take a low-grade job because that is what is available.
> Two years in a meat factory or serving meals at Irish rates of pay and
> they can go home with the price of a house.
Unless all of "us" buying up property over there has created a bubble,
of course. (Which is the counter-worry to the "floods of immigrants"
meme.)
Des
> We get a lot of people with good levels of formal qualification, but
> many of them take a low-grade job because that is what is available.
> Two years in a meat factory or serving meals at Irish rates of pay and
> they can go home with the price of a house.
Unless all of "us" buying up property over there has created a bubble,
of course. (Which is the counter-worry to the "floods of immigrants"
meme.)
Des
Jul 27th 2005, 3:26 am
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
On 27 Jul 2005 05:29:23 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>Jordi wrote:
>> [email protected] ha escrito:
>> > Alan S wrote:
>> > > On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:34:30 +1000, AABNE
>> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >Is it right to have free movement of persons and labor, between
>> > > >countries of vastly different standards of living and economic status?
>> > > >
>> > > >Imagine if Turkey was accepted. Think of the flood of migrants... it
>> > > >would be a nightmare.
>> > >
>> > > Not if you're Turkish.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers, Alan, Australia
>> >
>> > or if you like kebabs
>> There are probably more kebabs in Germany than in Turkey now.
>> J.
>but in the new europe should not we all have access to such kebabs !
Except they are usually completely shite and don't resemble what you
get in Turkey.
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>Jordi wrote:
>> [email protected] ha escrito:
>> > Alan S wrote:
>> > > On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:34:30 +1000, AABNE
>> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >Is it right to have free movement of persons and labor, between
>> > > >countries of vastly different standards of living and economic status?
>> > > >
>> > > >Imagine if Turkey was accepted. Think of the flood of migrants... it
>> > > >would be a nightmare.
>> > >
>> > > Not if you're Turkish.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers, Alan, Australia
>> >
>> > or if you like kebabs
>> There are probably more kebabs in Germany than in Turkey now.
>> J.
>but in the new europe should not we all have access to such kebabs !
Except they are usually completely shite and don't resemble what you
get in Turkey.
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Jul 27th 2005, 3:28 am
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:30:46 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:34:30 +1000, AABNE
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Is it right to have free movement of persons and labor, between
>>>countries of vastly different standards of living and economic status?
>>>Imagine if Turkey was accepted. Think of the flood of migrants... it
>>>would be a nightmare.
>>Not if you're Turkish.
>Are you suggesting that "me first" is not the only way to deal with
>the world?
>I think that I need to lie down.
I can't believe they would prefer Romania and Bulgaria admitted BEFORE
Turkey! I know which place I would rather invest in.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:34:30 +1000, AABNE
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Is it right to have free movement of persons and labor, between
>>>countries of vastly different standards of living and economic status?
>>>Imagine if Turkey was accepted. Think of the flood of migrants... it
>>>would be a nightmare.
>>Not if you're Turkish.
>Are you suggesting that "me first" is not the only way to deal with
>the world?
>I think that I need to lie down.
I can't believe they would prefer Romania and Bulgaria admitted BEFORE
Turkey! I know which place I would rather invest in.
--
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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Jul 27th 2005, 3:41 am
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DDT Filled Mormons ha escrito:
> >
> >I think that I need to lie down.
> I can't believe they would prefer Romania and Bulgaria admitted BEFORE
> Turkey! I know which place I would rather invest in.
> --
I don't think the explanation to this has anything to do with
economics....
J.
> >
> >I think that I need to lie down.
> I can't believe they would prefer Romania and Bulgaria admitted BEFORE
> Turkey! I know which place I would rather invest in.
> --
I don't think the explanation to this has anything to do with
economics....
J.
