Where to propose in Venice?
Feb 5th 2005 | 5:29 am
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Re: Where to propose in Venice?
<<"FL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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One of the most romantic things you can do is take a gondola right. You
should propose on a gondola around dusk with the lights and sun playing on
the water. Have the gondoleir take you through the back canals where only
the Venitians live so it will be quiet and intimate. Then pop it on her.
If you have a money belt under your pants, there is no way that a pick
pocket is going to get the ring. You can even take a safety pin, and pin
the
ring to an inside pocket, either on your coat or your pants.>>
Two things here:
One:Gondolas
The places where Venetians live, at least the ones that don't live at
Mestre, are not exactly romantic, particularly from the exterior. The parts
which are attractive are the part where tourists go. (That's why they go
there) If you go on a gondola in the evening you will probably be taken on
the Grand Canal in the company of a multitude of other likeminded visitors
from, predominantly, Japan and being lashed together in a small flotilla,
being serenaded by an off key accordionist. There is a great deal of traffic
passing up and down the canal so you will be constantly bobbed about by the
bow waves of passing Vaporetti. It probably is worth the experience as it
can be fun but romantic it ain't.It is also almost prohibitively expensive.
Two: Theft
There seems to exist, on this NG, an extremely jaded view of crime in Europe
in general and Italy in particular. The crime statistics for Venice, for
example, which can readily be made available at the Questura, show that
almost exclusively crime against the person - theft, injury etc - are
committed by visitors to Venice against their co-nationals. Indeed, Venice
has one of the lowest levels of crime in Italy and if it weren't overwhelmed
with visitors every day of the week, petty crime would be insignificant.
news:[email protected]. ..
One of the most romantic things you can do is take a gondola right. You
should propose on a gondola around dusk with the lights and sun playing on
the water. Have the gondoleir take you through the back canals where only
the Venitians live so it will be quiet and intimate. Then pop it on her.
If you have a money belt under your pants, there is no way that a pick
pocket is going to get the ring. You can even take a safety pin, and pin
the
ring to an inside pocket, either on your coat or your pants.>>
Two things here:
One:Gondolas
The places where Venetians live, at least the ones that don't live at
Mestre, are not exactly romantic, particularly from the exterior. The parts
which are attractive are the part where tourists go. (That's why they go
there) If you go on a gondola in the evening you will probably be taken on
the Grand Canal in the company of a multitude of other likeminded visitors
from, predominantly, Japan and being lashed together in a small flotilla,
being serenaded by an off key accordionist. There is a great deal of traffic
passing up and down the canal so you will be constantly bobbed about by the
bow waves of passing Vaporetti. It probably is worth the experience as it
can be fun but romantic it ain't.It is also almost prohibitively expensive.
Two: Theft
There seems to exist, on this NG, an extremely jaded view of crime in Europe
in general and Italy in particular. The crime statistics for Venice, for
example, which can readily be made available at the Questura, show that
almost exclusively crime against the person - theft, injury etc - are
committed by visitors to Venice against their co-nationals. Indeed, Venice
has one of the lowest levels of crime in Italy and if it weren't overwhelmed
with visitors every day of the week, petty crime would be insignificant.
Feb 5th 2005 | 7:54 am
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Re: Where to propose in Venice?
"Phred Bear" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> One:Gondolas
> The places where Venetians live, at least the ones that don't live at
> Mestre, are not exactly romantic, particularly from the exterior. The
parts
> which are attractive are the part where tourists go. (That's why they go
> there) If you go on a gondola in the evening you will probably be taken on
> the Grand Canal in the company of a multitude of other likeminded visitors
> from, predominantly, Japan and being lashed together in a small flotilla,
> being serenaded by an off key accordionist. There is a great deal of
traffic
> passing up and down the canal so you will be constantly bobbed about by
the
> bow waves of passing Vaporetti. It probably is worth the experience as it
> can be fun but romantic it ain't.It is also almost prohibitively
expensive.
Go off to a side canal -- walk toward the Rialto from S. Marco -- at almost
every small bridge will be a gondolier. Tell him you don't want to go on the
Grand Canal -- they are used to the request: everybody with a guide book
makes it. For that matter, it is a standard request even with gondolas
moored on the GC. The small back canals, tho not full of famous sites, are
romantic -- and at the the time in question you are not sightseeing - you
are proposing!
If the Bridge of Sighs is what you want, go round back of the canal -- go
thru the Piazetta dei Leoni toward the Palazzo Trevisan. The canal there is
just down from the Bridge of S., and it is a popular spot for gondolieri --
just tell him that you don't particularly want to go thru to the GC (
although it IS pretty, and not as full of Phred's flotillas as you find
further along the Canal). The view from the lagoon, at the lagoon-side of
the Piazetta, overlooking ( or perhaps from a gondola, underlooking) the
Doge's Palace, the Basilica, the Campanile, the Clock Tower ( with its
reproduction of an erected Leaning Tower of Pisa), is one of the greatest in
Europe. A few bumps and bobs are worth it. You are going for romance and
glamour and excitement -- not a nap.
Gondolas, by the way, have a fixed price, set by the city. One is no more
expensive than another. About 60 euro for fifty minutes. Tell the gondolier
what you have in mind -- he is experienced. Yours will not be the first
proposal in a gondola. Maybe a nice -- small -- tip if it goes well.
And I don't see why it shouldnt! Have fun!
rjf
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> One:Gondolas
> The places where Venetians live, at least the ones that don't live at
> Mestre, are not exactly romantic, particularly from the exterior. The
parts
> which are attractive are the part where tourists go. (That's why they go
> there) If you go on a gondola in the evening you will probably be taken on
> the Grand Canal in the company of a multitude of other likeminded visitors
> from, predominantly, Japan and being lashed together in a small flotilla,
> being serenaded by an off key accordionist. There is a great deal of
traffic
> passing up and down the canal so you will be constantly bobbed about by
the
> bow waves of passing Vaporetti. It probably is worth the experience as it
> can be fun but romantic it ain't.It is also almost prohibitively
expensive.
Go off to a side canal -- walk toward the Rialto from S. Marco -- at almost
every small bridge will be a gondolier. Tell him you don't want to go on the
Grand Canal -- they are used to the request: everybody with a guide book
makes it. For that matter, it is a standard request even with gondolas
moored on the GC. The small back canals, tho not full of famous sites, are
romantic -- and at the the time in question you are not sightseeing - you
are proposing!
If the Bridge of Sighs is what you want, go round back of the canal -- go
thru the Piazetta dei Leoni toward the Palazzo Trevisan. The canal there is
just down from the Bridge of S., and it is a popular spot for gondolieri --
just tell him that you don't particularly want to go thru to the GC (
although it IS pretty, and not as full of Phred's flotillas as you find
further along the Canal). The view from the lagoon, at the lagoon-side of
the Piazetta, overlooking ( or perhaps from a gondola, underlooking) the
Doge's Palace, the Basilica, the Campanile, the Clock Tower ( with its
reproduction of an erected Leaning Tower of Pisa), is one of the greatest in
Europe. A few bumps and bobs are worth it. You are going for romance and
glamour and excitement -- not a nap.
Gondolas, by the way, have a fixed price, set by the city. One is no more
expensive than another. About 60 euro for fifty minutes. Tell the gondolier
what you have in mind -- he is experienced. Yours will not be the first
proposal in a gondola. Maybe a nice -- small -- tip if it goes well.
And I don't see why it shouldnt! Have fun!
rjf
Feb 5th 2005 | 12:57 pm
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Re: Where to propose in Venice?
<< Go off to a side canal -- walk toward the Rialto from S. Marco -- at
almost
every small bridge will be a gondolier. Tell him you don't want to go on
the
Grand Canal -- they are used to the request: everybody with a guide book
makes it. For that matter, it is a standard request even with gondolas
moored on the GC. The small back canals, tho not full of famous sites, are
romantic -- and at the the time in question you are not sightseeing - you
are proposing!
If the Bridge of Sighs is what you want, go round back of the canal -- go
thru the Piazetta dei Leoni toward the Palazzo Trevisan. The canal there is
just down from the Bridge of S., and it is a popular spot for gondolieri --
just tell him that you don't particularly want to go thru to the GC (
although it IS pretty, and not as full of Phred's flotillas as you find
further along the Canal). The view from the lagoon, at the lagoon-side of
the Piazetta, overlooking ( or perhaps from a gondola, underlooking) the
Doge's Palace, the Basilica, the Campanile, the Clock Tower ( with its
reproduction of an erected Leaning Tower of Pisa), is one of the greatest
in
Europe. A few bumps and bobs are worth it. You are going for romance and
glamour and excitement -- not a nap.
Gondolas, by the way, have a fixed price, set by the city. One is no more
expensive than another. About 60 euro for fifty minutes. Tell the
gondolier
what you have in mind -- he is experienced. Yours will not be the first
proposal in a gondola. Maybe a nice -- small -- tip if it goes well.
And I don't see why it shouldnt! Have fun!>>
You're just an old romantic softy at heart !
almost
every small bridge will be a gondolier. Tell him you don't want to go on
the
Grand Canal -- they are used to the request: everybody with a guide book
makes it. For that matter, it is a standard request even with gondolas
moored on the GC. The small back canals, tho not full of famous sites, are
romantic -- and at the the time in question you are not sightseeing - you
are proposing!
If the Bridge of Sighs is what you want, go round back of the canal -- go
thru the Piazetta dei Leoni toward the Palazzo Trevisan. The canal there is
just down from the Bridge of S., and it is a popular spot for gondolieri --
just tell him that you don't particularly want to go thru to the GC (
although it IS pretty, and not as full of Phred's flotillas as you find
further along the Canal). The view from the lagoon, at the lagoon-side of
the Piazetta, overlooking ( or perhaps from a gondola, underlooking) the
Doge's Palace, the Basilica, the Campanile, the Clock Tower ( with its
reproduction of an erected Leaning Tower of Pisa), is one of the greatest
in
Europe. A few bumps and bobs are worth it. You are going for romance and
glamour and excitement -- not a nap.
Gondolas, by the way, have a fixed price, set by the city. One is no more
expensive than another. About 60 euro for fifty minutes. Tell the
gondolier
what you have in mind -- he is experienced. Yours will not be the first
proposal in a gondola. Maybe a nice -- small -- tip if it goes well.
And I don't see why it shouldnt! Have fun!>>
You're just an old romantic softy at heart !
Feb 5th 2005 | 11:44 pm
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Re: Where to propose in Venice?
Following up to Phred Bear
>Two things here:
>One:Gondolas
>The places where Venetians live, at least the ones that don't live at
>Mestre, are not exactly romantic, particularly from the exterior. The parts
>which are attractive are the part where tourists go. (That's why they go
>there) If you go on a gondola in the evening you will probably be taken on
>the Grand Canal in the company of a multitude of other likeminded visitors
>from, predominantly, Japan and being lashed together in a small flotilla,
>being serenaded by an off key accordionist. There is a great deal of traffic
>passing up and down the canal so you will be constantly bobbed about by the
>bow waves of passing Vaporetti. It probably is worth the experience as it
>can be fun but romantic it ain't.It is also almost prohibitively expensive.
Just ask to avoid the grand canal, the small canals are only wide
enough for a couple of gondolas
"http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk/venice2.htm
We wandered around quite a lot, didn't come across any canals
that we didn't rate as romantic.
>Two: Theft
>There seems to exist, on this NG, an extremely jaded view of crime in Europe
>in general and Italy in particular. The crime statistics for Venice, for
>example, which can readily be made available at the Questura, show that
>almost exclusively crime against the person - theft, injury etc - are
>committed by visitors to Venice against their co-nationals. Indeed, Venice
>has one of the lowest levels of crime in Italy and if it weren't overwhelmed
>with visitors every day of the week, petty crime would be insignificant.
I don't know about tourists robbing other tourists, but there is
certainly exacerbated perceptions of crime in Europe from some
who have posted here.
--
Mike Reid
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>Two things here:
>One:Gondolas
>The places where Venetians live, at least the ones that don't live at
>Mestre, are not exactly romantic, particularly from the exterior. The parts
>which are attractive are the part where tourists go. (That's why they go
>there) If you go on a gondola in the evening you will probably be taken on
>the Grand Canal in the company of a multitude of other likeminded visitors
>from, predominantly, Japan and being lashed together in a small flotilla,
>being serenaded by an off key accordionist. There is a great deal of traffic
>passing up and down the canal so you will be constantly bobbed about by the
>bow waves of passing Vaporetti. It probably is worth the experience as it
>can be fun but romantic it ain't.It is also almost prohibitively expensive.
Just ask to avoid the grand canal, the small canals are only wide
enough for a couple of gondolas
"http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk/venice2.htm
We wandered around quite a lot, didn't come across any canals
that we didn't rate as romantic.
>Two: Theft
>There seems to exist, on this NG, an extremely jaded view of crime in Europe
>in general and Italy in particular. The crime statistics for Venice, for
>example, which can readily be made available at the Questura, show that
>almost exclusively crime against the person - theft, injury etc - are
>committed by visitors to Venice against their co-nationals. Indeed, Venice
>has one of the lowest levels of crime in Italy and if it weren't overwhelmed
>with visitors every day of the week, petty crime would be insignificant.
I don't know about tourists robbing other tourists, but there is
certainly exacerbated perceptions of crime in Europe from some
who have posted here.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
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Feb 6th 2005 | 2:39 am
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Re: Where to propose in Venice?
"The Reids" <[email protected]> wrote...
> ... there is certainly exacerbated perceptions of crime
> in Europe from some who have posted here.
Anecdotally (which I realize is not valid statistic), I have
experienced 2 pick-pocket attempts in Europe and none
in the U.S. So, while it may be that I'm more likely to be
gunned down from a random shooting in the States, I feel
that I'm more likely to be fleeced on my way to the Forum.
-R-
> ... there is certainly exacerbated perceptions of crime
> in Europe from some who have posted here.
Anecdotally (which I realize is not valid statistic), I have
experienced 2 pick-pocket attempts in Europe and none
in the U.S. So, while it may be that I'm more likely to be
gunned down from a random shooting in the States, I feel
that I'm more likely to be fleeced on my way to the Forum.
-R-
Feb 6th 2005 | 2:46 am
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Re: Where to propose in Venice?
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:39:03 -0500, "Rog'" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"The Reids" <[email protected]> wrote...
>> ... there is certainly exacerbated perceptions of crime
>> in Europe from some who have posted here.
>Anecdotally (which I realize is not valid statistic), I have
>experienced 2 pick-pocket attempts in Europe and none
>in the U.S. So, while it may be that I'm more likely to be
>gunned down from a random shooting in the States, I feel
>that I'm more likely to be fleeced on my way to the Forum.
I've never had my pockets picked anywhere and don't know anybody who
has.
--
Martin
wrote:
>"The Reids" <[email protected]> wrote...
>> ... there is certainly exacerbated perceptions of crime
>> in Europe from some who have posted here.
>Anecdotally (which I realize is not valid statistic), I have
>experienced 2 pick-pocket attempts in Europe and none
>in the U.S. So, while it may be that I'm more likely to be
>gunned down from a random shooting in the States, I feel
>that I'm more likely to be fleeced on my way to the Forum.
I've never had my pockets picked anywhere and don't know anybody who
has.
--
Martin
Feb 6th 2005 | 7:47 am
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Rog' <[email protected]> wrote:
> Anecdotally (which I realize is not valid statistic), I have
> experienced 2 pick-pocket attempts in Europe and none
> in the U.S. So, while it may be that I'm more likely to be
> gunned down from a random shooting in the States, I feel
> that I'm more likely to be fleeced on my way to the Forum.
I suspect that being a tourist is part of what does it. I live in Washington
DC and have never been pickpocketed. Here at home I don't wear a money belt,
but I've always been safe. In Europe I've never been pickpocked either, but
I do wear a moneybelt and am aware of folks around me. Friends were pick-
pocketd in Rome, when they were travelling with me.
I think it is pretty hard, as a tourist, not to look like one, and I think
tourists are a good target for petty theives, everywhere around the world. But
I think the problem is not as bad as is thought, in general.
Julie
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> Anecdotally (which I realize is not valid statistic), I have
> experienced 2 pick-pocket attempts in Europe and none
> in the U.S. So, while it may be that I'm more likely to be
> gunned down from a random shooting in the States, I feel
> that I'm more likely to be fleeced on my way to the Forum.
I suspect that being a tourist is part of what does it. I live in Washington
DC and have never been pickpocketed. Here at home I don't wear a money belt,
but I've always been safe. In Europe I've never been pickpocked either, but
I do wear a moneybelt and am aware of folks around me. Friends were pick-
pocketd in Rome, when they were travelling with me.
I think it is pretty hard, as a tourist, not to look like one, and I think
tourists are a good target for petty theives, everywhere around the world. But
I think the problem is not as bad as is thought, in general.
Julie
--
Julie
**********
I could be wrong. My experience is limited to my experience.
Check out my Travel Pages (non-commercial) at
http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm
Feb 6th 2005 | 7:59 pm
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Following up to nitram
> I feel
>>that I'm more likely to be fleeced on my way to the Forum.
>I've never had my pockets picked anywhere and don't know anybody who
>has.
I have lived in London most of my life (56 years) and the only
crime I have experienced has been theft from my car (twice).
I do know of people who have been mugged and have had handbags
stolen. A rather interesting point is that while 99% of people I
know have suffered 0 personal or home crime, one person has been
mugged twice, had her bag stolen several times and been burgled.
IMO she fits the profile of a victim, small, female, unfit and
inattentive.
--
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> I feel
>>that I'm more likely to be fleeced on my way to the Forum.
>I've never had my pockets picked anywhere and don't know anybody who
>has.
I have lived in London most of my life (56 years) and the only
crime I have experienced has been theft from my car (twice).
I do know of people who have been mugged and have had handbags
stolen. A rather interesting point is that while 99% of people I
know have suffered 0 personal or home crime, one person has been
mugged twice, had her bag stolen several times and been burgled.
IMO she fits the profile of a victim, small, female, unfit and
inattentive.
--
Mike Reid
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Feb 7th 2005 | 6:07 am
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Re: Where to propose in Venice?
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 08:59:28 +0000, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to nitram
>> I feel
>>>that I'm more likely to be fleeced on my way to the Forum.
>>I've never had my pockets picked anywhere and don't know anybody who
>>has.
>I have lived in London most of my life (56 years) and the only
>crime I have experienced has been theft from my car (twice).
>I do know of people who have been mugged and have had handbags
>stolen. A rather interesting point is that while 99% of people I
>know have suffered 0 personal or home crime, one person has been
>mugged twice, had her bag stolen several times and been burgled.
>IMO she fits the profile of a victim, small, female, unfit and
>inattentive.
That last factor would be the main one I guess.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to nitram
>> I feel
>>>that I'm more likely to be fleeced on my way to the Forum.
>>I've never had my pockets picked anywhere and don't know anybody who
>>has.
>I have lived in London most of my life (56 years) and the only
>crime I have experienced has been theft from my car (twice).
>I do know of people who have been mugged and have had handbags
>stolen. A rather interesting point is that while 99% of people I
>know have suffered 0 personal or home crime, one person has been
>mugged twice, had her bag stolen several times and been burgled.
>IMO she fits the profile of a victim, small, female, unfit and
>inattentive.
That last factor would be the main one I guess.
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Feb 7th 2005 | 8:51 pm
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Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>IMO she fits the profile of a victim, small, female, unfit and
>>inattentive.
>That last factor would be the main one I guess.
I think so. She does not learn from her experiences, rather sees
it as normal.
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>>IMO she fits the profile of a victim, small, female, unfit and
>>inattentive.
>That last factor would be the main one I guess.
I think so. She does not learn from her experiences, rather sees
it as normal.
--
Mike Reid
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Feb 7th 2005 | 10:07 pm
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Re: Where to propose in Venice?
The Reids <[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>>IMO she fits the profile of a victim, small, female, unfit and
>>>inattentive.
>>That last factor would be the main one I guess.
>I think so. She does not learn from her experiences, rather sees
>it as normal.
This discussion brings us full circle: to the idea of a woman
accepting a marriage proposal.
--
PB
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>Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>>IMO she fits the profile of a victim, small, female, unfit and
>>>inattentive.
>>That last factor would be the main one I guess.
>I think so. She does not learn from her experiences, rather sees
>it as normal.
This discussion brings us full circle: to the idea of a woman
accepting a marriage proposal.
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
Feb 8th 2005 | 1:44 am
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Re: Where to propose in Venice?
"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >I think so. She does not learn from her experiences, rather sees
> >it as normal.
> This discussion brings us full circle: to the idea of a woman
> accepting a marriage proposal.
Pad, you are a clever fellow. Enjoy your trip.
Bob
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> >I think so. She does not learn from her experiences, rather sees
> >it as normal.
> This discussion brings us full circle: to the idea of a woman
> accepting a marriage proposal.
Pad, you are a clever fellow. Enjoy your trip.
Bob
Feb 8th 2005 | 1:50 am
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"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >I think so. She does not learn from her experiences, rather sees
> >it as normal.
> This discussion brings us full circle: to the idea of a woman
> accepting a marriage proposal.
Padraig, you are a clever fellow. Enjoy your trip.
rjf
news:[email protected]...
> >I think so. She does not learn from her experiences, rather sees
> >it as normal.
> This discussion brings us full circle: to the idea of a woman
> accepting a marriage proposal.
Padraig, you are a clever fellow. Enjoy your trip.
rjf
Feb 8th 2005 | 2:25 am
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"Bob Fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> >I think so. She does not learn from her experiences, rather sees
>> >it as normal.
>> This discussion brings us full circle: to the idea of a woman
>> accepting a marriage proposal.
>Pad, you are a clever fellow. Enjoy your trip.
We intend to enjoy it! Some of the credit will go to you and other
participants in this group, who made the planning and thinking ahead
so enjoyable.
We're off on the 16th. It seems like I never get it right, as the
project started with the idea of taking a break around St. Valentine's
day.
I suppose we could visit Valentine's remains on the 14th. Does anybody
in this group know where they are to be found?
--
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>"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> >I think so. She does not learn from her experiences, rather sees
>> >it as normal.
>> This discussion brings us full circle: to the idea of a woman
>> accepting a marriage proposal.
>Pad, you are a clever fellow. Enjoy your trip.
We intend to enjoy it! Some of the credit will go to you and other
participants in this group, who made the planning and thinking ahead
so enjoyable.
We're off on the 16th. It seems like I never get it right, as the
project started with the idea of taking a break around St. Valentine's
day.
I suppose we could visit Valentine's remains on the 14th. Does anybody
in this group know where they are to be found?
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PB
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"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I suppose we could visit Valentine's remains on the 14th. Does anybody
> in this group know where they are to be found?
Presumably somewhere in Rome: The following is a quote:
The celebration of Valentine's Day originated in ancient Rome when a kind
physician
named Valentine took an interest in a young blind girl. With his healing
skill and his
deep faith he restored her sight. What we now call Valentine's Day began
when he
sent the little girl a secret message, which she received after the
Christian martyr was
executed.
Valentine was executed on A.D. February 14, 270, during one of the Christian
persecutions ordered by Emperor Claudius II Gothicus. Pope Julius I
supposedly built
a basilica (a Christian church with Roman features) over Valentine's grave.
In A.D.
496, Pope Gelasius I named February 14th as Saint Valentine's Day.
news:[email protected]...
> I suppose we could visit Valentine's remains on the 14th. Does anybody
> in this group know where they are to be found?
Presumably somewhere in Rome: The following is a quote:
The celebration of Valentine's Day originated in ancient Rome when a kind
physician
named Valentine took an interest in a young blind girl. With his healing
skill and his
deep faith he restored her sight. What we now call Valentine's Day began
when he
sent the little girl a secret message, which she received after the
Christian martyr was
executed.
Valentine was executed on A.D. February 14, 270, during one of the Christian
persecutions ordered by Emperor Claudius II Gothicus. Pope Julius I
supposedly built
a basilica (a Christian church with Roman features) over Valentine's grave.
In A.D.
496, Pope Gelasius I named February 14th as Saint Valentine's Day.
