On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 17:26:27 +0200, "tim"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Sacha" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:BD8EE79C.55D3%[email protected]. uk...
    >> On 9/10/04 11:29, in article [email protected], "tim"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> "Boris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:[email protected] om...
    >>>> The follow up to this question is whether we might be able to find a
    >>>> traditional Thanksgiving meal in Germany, or is this type of food not
    >>>> readily available.
    >>> What on earth is "this type of food"? What is it about this meal
    >>> that you expect not to be able to find. We have shops here,
    >>> IME they sell the same sort of fresh ingredients as an American
    >>> shop (even if the choice of prepared food is much more limited)
    >>> tim
    >> Why are some peoples' responses to this innocuous question so peculiar?
    >> 'This type of food' is *obviously* the type of food that Americans eat at
    >> one particular festive meal in the USA!
    >> If an American hasn't travelled to Germany before, it is not unreasonable
    >> to
    >> ask if the sort of food he is used to in combination at US Thanksgiving is
    >> *perhaps* available there on what is,
    >As per my other response, I didn't suggest it was unreasonble to ask.
    >But it is unreasonable to expect me to guess what type of dish the
    >person is actually expecting to find. I still have no idea what type
    >of meal is expected for this occasion?

The question wasn't addressed to you specifically. This is a group.
Between us we know many things , few know everything.
It's the strength of this type of group.

Go Fig wrote:

    > > There's "Erntedankfest" which comes from the same idea (to thank God for
    > > the year's harvest),
    > Nope, Thanksgiving is uniquely American (not North American)

Incorrect. We Canadians also celebrate a Thanksgiving ... but on a different
date that the USA part of North America. In fact, Canadian Thanksgiving is
today, 10 October, and is timed to the harvest.

R.

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:22:19 +0100, Sacha
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On 10/10/04 16:13, in article [email protected],
    >"Magda" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:08:44 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Sacha
    >> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked
    >> like this :

    >> ... we saw a large shop full of masks, costumes etc.
    >>
    >> Did you see adult people in masks and costumes to work or in the streets ? All
    >> day long
    >> and everything ?! That's new !
    >As it's not yet Hallowe'en, we didn't see anyone wearing anything to do with
    >it in Palma. However, both there and in France there were costumes and
    >masks for children and adults.
    >>
    >> Maybe in Paris they let go the nonsense, then.
    >>
    >I don't know what you mean by that. That Paris doesn't have any interest in
    >Hallowe'en? ALL of Paris? How can one be sure there isn't some sneaky
    >little shop, somewhere......... ;-)

I've seen shops with masks and costumes in Venice too :-)

    > This site seems to have a lot of information on the different links:
    > http://www.germanculture.com.ua/libr...tedankfest.htm
    > --
    > Sacha
    > (remove the weeds for email)

From the above link:

...*der gewaltige ERNTESCHMAUS
So war zum Beispiel das "Schnapsbrot" ,
mit Korn durchtränkte Brotschnitten, bei den Schnittern sehr beliebt.*

no wonder they stopped that custom:-)

Sascha




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*Ich liebe die Deutsche Sprache! Sie hat drive, sie hat power, sie ist cool!*

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:52:57 -0400, Yves Bellefeuille <[email protected]>
wrote:


    >it's extremely unlikely that you'll be able to get a traditional
    >Thanksgiving meal in Europe (except perhaps at a US cultural centre or the
    >like).

If you google with

Germany Thanksgiving Dinner

You will find there are lots of Thanksgiving Dinners planned in
Germany.

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 18:16:46 +0200, Jeremy Henderson <[email protected]>
wrote:


    >I'd imagine by Swedish immigrants, likewise St. Patricks Day, Greek Easter
    >etc. don't think there are enough USAn immigrants to Europe to make
    >Thanksgiving celebrations very widespread.

Doesn't the USA have a large number of military people permanently
stationed in Germany?

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:36:02 +0000, in rec.travel.europe, "Donna Evleth"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :


... This year, in the 6th and 7th arrondissements, I have seen masks for sale in
... toy stores. And Halloween decorations in just about every candy store in a
... great many more arrondissements, even places like the 11th.

The 4th does not seem to give a damn, yay!, although the BHV has been displaying Paul
Newman's popcorn lately. They seem to think it's "exotic"...

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:12:17 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this :

... >As it's not yet Hallowe'en, we didn't see anyone wearing anything to do with
... >it in Palma. However, both there and in France there were costumes and
... >masks for children and adults.
... >>
... >> Maybe in Paris they let go the nonsense, then.
... >>
... >I don't know what you mean by that. That Paris doesn't have any interest in
... >Hallowe'en? ALL of Paris? How can one be sure there isn't some sneaky
... >little shop, somewhere......... ;-)
...
... I've seen shops with masks and costumes in Venice too :-)

I bet Brazil has those as well. LOL

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 18:11:40 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, B Vaughan<[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :


... Actually, my town in the US had a big celebration every Bastille Day.
... It featured music, food and wine, and ended with a race of waiters
... from the town's restaurants, each carrying a tray with a full glass of
... wine on it, which had to still be full at the finish line.

Did you dance in the streets too ?

    > etc. don't think there are enough USAn immigrants to Europe to make
    > Thanksgiving celebrations very widespread.

Just wait for the outcome of the election and what it will trigger :-)


Sascha

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:03:43 +0200, Magda
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:12:17 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
    >electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ... >As it's not yet Hallowe'en, we didn't see anyone wearing anything to do with
    > ... >it in Palma. However, both there and in France there were costumes and
    > ... >masks for children and adults.
    > ... >>
    > ... >> Maybe in Paris they let go the nonsense, then.
    > ... >>
    > ... >I don't know what you mean by that. That Paris doesn't have any interest in
    > ... >Hallowe'en? ALL of Paris? How can one be sure there isn't some sneaky
    > ... >little shop, somewhere......... ;-)
    > ...
    > ... I've seen shops with masks and costumes in Venice too :-)
    >I bet Brazil has those as well. LOL

briefer costumes :-)

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:09:54 +0200, "sascha" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >> etc. don't think there are enough USAn immigrants to Europe to make
    >> Thanksgiving celebrations very widespread.
    >Just wait for the outcome of the election and what it will trigger :-)

LOL

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 19:23:22 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "tim"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :


... Agreed. I can understand the need to 'celebrate' but the requirement
... that it should consist of exactly the right ingredients seems a tad
... unnecessary.

This may help :

THE TWELVE DAYS of THANKSGIVING
(or what seems like years)

On the First Day...
We give thanks for the fresh turkey feast and its hot trimmings.

On the Second Day...
We bless the cold turkey sandwiches, sloshy cranberry sauce, and hard rolls.

On the Third Day...
We praise the turkey pie and vintage mixed veggies.

On the Fourth Day...
We thank the pilgrims for not serving bison that first time, or we'd be celebrating
Thanksgiving in April.

On the Fifth Day...
We gobble up cubed bird casserole and pray for a glimpse of naked turkey carcass.

On the Sixth Day...
We show gratitude (sort of) to the creative cook who slings cashews at the turkey and
calls it Oriental.

On the Seventh Day...
We forgive our forefathers and pass the turkey-nugget pizza.

On the Eighth Day...
The word "vegetarian" keeps popping into our heads.

On the Ninth Day...
We check our hair to make sure we're not beginning to sprout feathers.

On the Tenth Day...
We hope that the wing meat kabobs catch fire under the broiler.

On the Eleventh Day...
We smile over the creamed gizzard because the thigh bones are in sight.

On the Twelfth Day...
We apologise for running out of turkey leftovers. And everybody says Amen.

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 14:48:57 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Sacha
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... On 10/10/04 12:23, in article [email protected],
... "Magda" <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... > On 9 Oct 2004 16:19:36 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] (Boris)
... > arranged
... > some electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... Ok, this may be a stupid question, but my family and I will be in
... > ... Germany over Thanksgiving (an American holiday), and just want to make
... > ... sure that things will be open. I'm assuming they don't celebrate this
... > ... holiday over there.
... >
... > Why on Earth would the German (or any other European, for that matter)
... > celebrate something
... > that's ONLY YOURS ? Do you dance in the streets on Bastille Day ?
... >
... It's possible to find restaurants around UK that serve Thanksgiving dinners
... because of visitors from America and because some Britons like the idea of
... another festive occasion. It is therefore, perfectly sensible to query
... whether or not this might happen in other European countries, too.
... I hope that the people who have answered this query so nastily and in such
... an insular fashion, confine their travelling to a computer group! They would
... all make lousy ambassadors for their own countries in those of others.

Kinda playing fast and loose with the word "sensible".

    > Doesn't the USA have a large number of military people permanently
    > stationed in Germany?

Depending on the outcome of the next election in the US,
most of the American Forces will be moved to New Europe.


Sascha
from O. E.