Thanksgiving in Europe
Oct 10th 2004 | 4:11 am
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Re: Thanksgiving in Europe
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 06:20:13 -0700, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
[the rest of George Washington's Thanksgiving Proclamation snipped]
>>
>> And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers
>> and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech
>> Him to pardon our national and other transgressions;
I think they'd better double up on that beseechment this year.
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[the rest of George Washington's Thanksgiving Proclamation snipped]
>>
>> And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers
>> and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech
>> Him to pardon our national and other transgressions;
I think they'd better double up on that beseechment this year.
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Barbara Vaughan
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Oct 10th 2004 | 4:11 am
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Re: Thanksgiving in Europe
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 13:23:59 +0200, Magda
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 9 Oct 2004 16:19:36 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] (Boris) arranged
>some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... Ok, this may be a stupid question, but my family and I will be in
> ... Germany over Thanksgiving (an American holiday), and just want to make
> ... sure that things will be open. I'm assuming they don't celebrate this
> ... holiday over there.
>Why on Earth would the German (or any other European, for that matter) celebrate something
>that's ONLY YOURS ? Do you dance in the streets on Bastille Day ?
Actually, my town in the US had a big celebration every Bastille Day.
It featured music, food and wine, and ended with a race of waiters
from the town's restaurants, each carrying a tray with a full glass of
wine on it, which had to still be full at the finish line.
The Chinese New Year is celebrated in many US cities, even outside of
Chinese communities.
Also, the question isn't really so stupid, because (as I mentioned in
another post) I was once in Beijing in Beijing on Thanksgiving and
the hotel I was staying in offered a Thanksgiving meal to visiting
Americans. (I didn't try it, though.)
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 9 Oct 2004 16:19:36 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] (Boris) arranged
>some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... Ok, this may be a stupid question, but my family and I will be in
> ... Germany over Thanksgiving (an American holiday), and just want to make
> ... sure that things will be open. I'm assuming they don't celebrate this
> ... holiday over there.
>Why on Earth would the German (or any other European, for that matter) celebrate something
>that's ONLY YOURS ? Do you dance in the streets on Bastille Day ?
Actually, my town in the US had a big celebration every Bastille Day.
It featured music, food and wine, and ended with a race of waiters
from the town's restaurants, each carrying a tray with a full glass of
wine on it, which had to still be full at the finish line.
The Chinese New Year is celebrated in many US cities, even outside of
Chinese communities.
Also, the question isn't really so stupid, because (as I mentioned in
another post) I was once in Beijing in Beijing on Thanksgiving and
the hotel I was staying in offered a Thanksgiving meal to visiting
Americans. (I didn't try it, though.)
-----------
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Oct 10th 2004 | 4:11 am
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:33:45 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>I'm surprised that December 5th has not being propagated outside NL by
>the commercially minded. Imagine the excuse to make people give two
>presents in December. :-)
However, Santa Lucia, a Swedish (and also Italian) present-giving
occasion in December, is celebrated sometimes in the US.
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>I'm surprised that December 5th has not being propagated outside NL by
>the commercially minded. Imagine the excuse to make people give two
>presents in December. :-)
However, Santa Lucia, a Swedish (and also Italian) present-giving
occasion in December, is celebrated sometimes in the US.
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Barbara Vaughan
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Oct 10th 2004 | 4:16 am
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Re: Thanksgiving in Europe
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:11:41 +0200, B Vaughan wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:33:45 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>I'm surprised that December 5th has not being propagated outside NL by
>>the commercially minded. Imagine the excuse to make people give two
>>presents in December. :-)
>
> However, Santa Lucia, a Swedish (and also Italian) present-giving
> occasion in December, is celebrated sometimes in the US.
I'd imagine by Swedish immigrants, likewise St. Patricks Day, Greek Easter
etc. don't think there are enough USAn immigrants to Europe to make
Thanksgiving celebrations very widespread.
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> On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:33:45 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>I'm surprised that December 5th has not being propagated outside NL by
>>the commercially minded. Imagine the excuse to make people give two
>>presents in December. :-)
>
> However, Santa Lucia, a Swedish (and also Italian) present-giving
> occasion in December, is celebrated sometimes in the US.
I'd imagine by Swedish immigrants, likewise St. Patricks Day, Greek Easter
etc. don't think there are enough USAn immigrants to Europe to make
Thanksgiving celebrations very widespread.
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Oct 10th 2004 | 4:24 am
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Re: Thanksgiving in Europe
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:22:19 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Sacha
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... As it's not yet Hallowe'en, we didn't see anyone wearing anything to do with
... it in Palma. However, both there and in France there were costumes and
... masks for children and adults.
What, have you noticed that Halloween happens just once a year? What a genious !
... > Maybe in Paris they let go the nonsense, then.
... >
... I don't know what you mean by that. That Paris doesn't have any interest in
... Hallowe'en? ALL of Paris? How can one be sure there isn't some sneaky
... little shop, somewhere......... ;-)
Some five or six years ago, near Halloween, I saw a couple of shops selling masks, but it
was probably for children - and since I haven't seen any. And certainly no one wearing
masks and/or costumes in the streets or to work, Halloween or not - exception made to the
Gay Pride parade, but that's in June.
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... As it's not yet Hallowe'en, we didn't see anyone wearing anything to do with
... it in Palma. However, both there and in France there were costumes and
... masks for children and adults.
What, have you noticed that Halloween happens just once a year? What a genious !
... > Maybe in Paris they let go the nonsense, then.
... >
... I don't know what you mean by that. That Paris doesn't have any interest in
... Hallowe'en? ALL of Paris? How can one be sure there isn't some sneaky
... little shop, somewhere......... ;-)
Some five or six years ago, near Halloween, I saw a couple of shops selling masks, but it
was probably for children - and since I haven't seen any. And certainly no one wearing
masks and/or costumes in the streets or to work, Halloween or not - exception made to the
Gay Pride parade, but that's in June.
Oct 10th 2004 | 4:35 am
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Re: Thanksgiving in Europe
On 9/10/04 16:55, in article [email protected], "tim"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Sacha" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:BD8F1372.5659%[email protected] k...
>> On 9/10/04 16:18, in article [email protected], "tim"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 12:29:18 +0200, "tim"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Boris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected] om...
>>>>>
>>>>>> The follow up to this question is whether we might be able to find a
>>>>>> traditional Thanksgiving meal in Germany, or is this type of food not
>>>>>> readily available.
>>>>>
>>>>> What on earth is "this type of food"? What is it about this meal
>>>>> that you expect not to be able to find. We have shops here,
>>>>> IME they sell the same sort of fresh ingredients as an American
>>>>> shop (even if the choice of prepared food is much more limited)
>>>>
>>>> For somebody, who knows nothing about Germany or German food it's a
>>>> reasonable question.
>>>
>>> No it's not. It pre-supposes that the people being asked know
>>> what constitues a thanks-giving dinner. I haven't the faintest
>>> idea.
>>>
>>> tim
>>>
>>>
>> No, it doesn't.
>
> I think that it does. We are obviously not going to agree here.
>
>> It pre-supposes that the people who take the trouble to
>> answer *will* know something about it or will have the wit not to
>> demonstrate their ignorance.
>
> I have no problem with being ignorant about the contents of a
> thanks-giving dinner.
Then don't answer a question just to be unpleasant, which is the impression
you gave.
>
> But it could be that the resturant down the road serves it
> everyday and calls it something else. By not telling me
> what is being asked for I cannot make that connection.
Oh come! This is disingenuous to say the least! If you want to be helpful,
look it up - I do and so do others. If you don't, say nothing.
Thanksgiving in USA is so well known in other countries as not to (normally)
required a detailed menu or recipe collection! If it comes to that, you
could have just asked your 'restaurant down the road' if they know about and
offer American Thanksgiving - no further knowledge or effort on your part
required.
>> If you know nothing about the topic of a thread, it's usually better not
>> to
>> open your mouth and demonstrate either your profound ignorance, or that
>> you
>> can't be bothered to do the simplest Googling, IMO.
>
> Why should I google to answer someone else question?
>
> tim
>
Possibly because you've spent quite a long time here simply arguing and that
it could have been spent more usefully and to your own benefit unless of
course, as you appear to demonstrate above, you prefer to remain in
ignorance? And that's the end of this discussion for me, Tim. I don't
think that demonstrating one's own ignorance is necessary and nor do I think
rude answers to innocuous enquiries are, either. You, OTOH, appear to think
that the job of a poster to this group is to educate you.
--
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Sacha" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:BD8F1372.5659%[email protected] k...
>> On 9/10/04 16:18, in article [email protected], "tim"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 12:29:18 +0200, "tim"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Boris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected] om...
>>>>>
>>>>>> The follow up to this question is whether we might be able to find a
>>>>>> traditional Thanksgiving meal in Germany, or is this type of food not
>>>>>> readily available.
>>>>>
>>>>> What on earth is "this type of food"? What is it about this meal
>>>>> that you expect not to be able to find. We have shops here,
>>>>> IME they sell the same sort of fresh ingredients as an American
>>>>> shop (even if the choice of prepared food is much more limited)
>>>>
>>>> For somebody, who knows nothing about Germany or German food it's a
>>>> reasonable question.
>>>
>>> No it's not. It pre-supposes that the people being asked know
>>> what constitues a thanks-giving dinner. I haven't the faintest
>>> idea.
>>>
>>> tim
>>>
>>>
>> No, it doesn't.
>
> I think that it does. We are obviously not going to agree here.
>
>> It pre-supposes that the people who take the trouble to
>> answer *will* know something about it or will have the wit not to
>> demonstrate their ignorance.
>
> I have no problem with being ignorant about the contents of a
> thanks-giving dinner.
Then don't answer a question just to be unpleasant, which is the impression
you gave.
>
> But it could be that the resturant down the road serves it
> everyday and calls it something else. By not telling me
> what is being asked for I cannot make that connection.
Oh come! This is disingenuous to say the least! If you want to be helpful,
look it up - I do and so do others. If you don't, say nothing.
Thanksgiving in USA is so well known in other countries as not to (normally)
required a detailed menu or recipe collection! If it comes to that, you
could have just asked your 'restaurant down the road' if they know about and
offer American Thanksgiving - no further knowledge or effort on your part
required.
>> If you know nothing about the topic of a thread, it's usually better not
>> to
>> open your mouth and demonstrate either your profound ignorance, or that
>> you
>> can't be bothered to do the simplest Googling, IMO.
>
> Why should I google to answer someone else question?
>
> tim
>
Possibly because you've spent quite a long time here simply arguing and that
it could have been spent more usefully and to your own benefit unless of
course, as you appear to demonstrate above, you prefer to remain in
ignorance? And that's the end of this discussion for me, Tim. I don't
think that demonstrating one's own ignorance is necessary and nor do I think
rude answers to innocuous enquiries are, either. You, OTOH, appear to think
that the job of a poster to this group is to educate you.
--
Sacha
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Oct 10th 2004 | 6:10 am
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Re: Thanksgiving in Europe
Yikes!! I didn't mean to start a flame war! There's enough war going
on in the world already. I also don't want to come off as an arrogant
American tourist (or arrogant American at all). I'm merely a novice
when it comes to European travel, and was hoping for some friendly
advice.
So, for those who replied in a less than friendly tone--(this should
be read with sarcasm)--thanks alot. You certainly helped waste the
bandwidth for me and the other legitimate responders. Hope you have a
nice day.
For those of you who offered genuinely helpful advice--(no sarcasm
here)--thanks alot!
I'll just plan on having a traditional Thanksgiving feast either
before or after the actual holiday.
As for the poster who questioned "this kind of food", it's not that I
don't think I can get the usual ingredients, I just didn't know if a
turkey dinner with mashed potatoes, gravy, dressing, etc was a meal
which one frequently sees in Germany. Truly, this was an innocent
question.
I know, that in Minnesota, if I want a traditional German or French or
whatever meal, I can usaully find a restaurant that serves such fare.
Is the same true while travelling? I honestly don't know, I'm not an
expert on European culture. I'm learing that the whole
hotel/room/zimmer scene is quite refreshingly different from what one
sees in the U.S.
I tried to express my humility with my initial post, offering what I
said may be a stupid question. A little leniancy would go a long way
in promoting friendly relationships.
As for the other comments, my daughter is a teenager, so I hope she is
welcome in restaurants.
Finally, Thanksgiving is, thankfully (pun intended), one of the few
not very commercialized holidays left.
Regards,
Boris
on in the world already. I also don't want to come off as an arrogant
American tourist (or arrogant American at all). I'm merely a novice
when it comes to European travel, and was hoping for some friendly
advice.
So, for those who replied in a less than friendly tone--(this should
be read with sarcasm)--thanks alot. You certainly helped waste the
bandwidth for me and the other legitimate responders. Hope you have a
nice day.
For those of you who offered genuinely helpful advice--(no sarcasm
here)--thanks alot!
I'll just plan on having a traditional Thanksgiving feast either
before or after the actual holiday.
As for the poster who questioned "this kind of food", it's not that I
don't think I can get the usual ingredients, I just didn't know if a
turkey dinner with mashed potatoes, gravy, dressing, etc was a meal
which one frequently sees in Germany. Truly, this was an innocent
question.
I know, that in Minnesota, if I want a traditional German or French or
whatever meal, I can usaully find a restaurant that serves such fare.
Is the same true while travelling? I honestly don't know, I'm not an
expert on European culture. I'm learing that the whole
hotel/room/zimmer scene is quite refreshingly different from what one
sees in the U.S.
I tried to express my humility with my initial post, offering what I
said may be a stupid question. A little leniancy would go a long way
in promoting friendly relationships.
As for the other comments, my daughter is a teenager, so I hope she is
welcome in restaurants.
Finally, Thanksgiving is, thankfully (pun intended), one of the few
not very commercialized holidays left.
Regards,
Boris
Oct 10th 2004 | 6:14 am
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Re: Thanksgiving in Europe
"Boris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] om...
> Ok, this may be a stupid question, but my family and I will be in
> Germany over Thanksgiving (an American holiday), and just want to make
> sure that things will be open. I'm assuming they don't celebrate this
> holiday over there.
> The follow up to this question is whether we might be able to find a
> traditional Thanksgiving meal in Germany, or is this type of food not
> readily available.
> No, I don't want to be an arrogant American, and yes, I do want to
> experience Europe as a pseudo european, but it would be nice to have a
> traditional Thanksgiving dinner.
> One last question, my daughter will have her birthday while we are
> there, is it appropriate to mention this at restaurants?
> Thanks,
> Boris
If the US Army can figure out how to put on Thanksgiving Dinner in
Afghanistan, they can surely do it in Germany!
Just contact some of the many Officers Clubs on or near US bases; if
they can't invite you, they will certainly know which of the local
hotels offer such a meal.
Otherwise, call any of the big "international" hotels in Frankfurt,
Bonn, Berlin or Munich, where Americans visiting US bases are most
likely to stay.
news:[email protected] om...
> Ok, this may be a stupid question, but my family and I will be in
> Germany over Thanksgiving (an American holiday), and just want to make
> sure that things will be open. I'm assuming they don't celebrate this
> holiday over there.
> The follow up to this question is whether we might be able to find a
> traditional Thanksgiving meal in Germany, or is this type of food not
> readily available.
> No, I don't want to be an arrogant American, and yes, I do want to
> experience Europe as a pseudo european, but it would be nice to have a
> traditional Thanksgiving dinner.
> One last question, my daughter will have her birthday while we are
> there, is it appropriate to mention this at restaurants?
> Thanks,
> Boris
If the US Army can figure out how to put on Thanksgiving Dinner in
Afghanistan, they can surely do it in Germany!
Just contact some of the many Officers Clubs on or near US bases; if
they can't invite you, they will certainly know which of the local
hotels offer such a meal.
Otherwise, call any of the big "international" hotels in Frankfurt,
Bonn, Berlin or Munich, where Americans visiting US bases are most
likely to stay.
Oct 10th 2004 | 6:24 am
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Thanksgiving in Europe
Dans l'article <[email protected]>, Magda
<[email protected]> a écrit :
> On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:22:19 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Sacha
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked
> like this :
> ... As it's not yet Hallowe'en, we didn't see anyone wearing anything to do
with
> ... it in Palma. However, both there and in France there were costumes and
> ... masks for children and adults.
> What, have you noticed that Halloween happens just once a year? What a genious
!
> ... > Maybe in Paris they let go the nonsense, then.
> ... >
> ... I don't know what you mean by that. That Paris doesn't have any interest
in
> ... Hallowe'en? ALL of Paris? How can one be sure there isn't some sneaky
> ... little shop, somewhere......... ;-)
> Some five or six years ago, near Halloween, I saw a couple of shops selling
> masks, but it
> was probably for children - and since I haven't seen any. And certainly no
> one wearing
> masks and/or costumes in the streets or to work, Halloween or not -
> exception made to the
> Gay Pride parade, but that's in June.
This year, in the 6th and 7th arrondissements, I have seen masks for sale in
toy stores. And Halloween decorations in just about every candy store in a
great many more arrondissements, even places like the 11th.
Donna Evleth
>
<[email protected]> a écrit :
> On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:22:19 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Sacha
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked
> like this :
> ... As it's not yet Hallowe'en, we didn't see anyone wearing anything to do
with
> ... it in Palma. However, both there and in France there were costumes and
> ... masks for children and adults.
> What, have you noticed that Halloween happens just once a year? What a genious
!
> ... > Maybe in Paris they let go the nonsense, then.
> ... >
> ... I don't know what you mean by that. That Paris doesn't have any interest
in
> ... Hallowe'en? ALL of Paris? How can one be sure there isn't some sneaky
> ... little shop, somewhere......... ;-)
> Some five or six years ago, near Halloween, I saw a couple of shops selling
> masks, but it
> was probably for children - and since I haven't seen any. And certainly no
> one wearing
> masks and/or costumes in the streets or to work, Halloween or not -
> exception made to the
> Gay Pride parade, but that's in June.
This year, in the 6th and 7th arrondissements, I have seen masks for sale in
toy stores. And Halloween decorations in just about every candy store in a
great many more arrondissements, even places like the 11th.
Donna Evleth
>
Oct 10th 2004 | 7:01 am
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Re: Thanksgiving in Europe
On 10 Oct 2004 04:00:34 -0700, [email protected] (?ystein)
wrote:
>> One last question, my daughter will have her birthday while we are
>> there, is it appropriate to mention this at restaurants?
>>
>Restaurants are normally not a typical childen thing.
What age are you basing "children" on? from about 12 if not younger,
restaurants seem perfectly normal for birthdays, I've also seen lots
of 14/15 year olds in restaurants on their own in Italy for example.
>MacDonalds and
>the like arrange birthdays for childen,
the under 5's maybe...
> your fantasy and knowledge about your childs interests are the
>onl limit.
Which seen as they asked about a restaurant, suggests they might
already have done so.
Jim.
wrote:
>> One last question, my daughter will have her birthday while we are
>> there, is it appropriate to mention this at restaurants?
>>
>Restaurants are normally not a typical childen thing.
What age are you basing "children" on? from about 12 if not younger,
restaurants seem perfectly normal for birthdays, I've also seen lots
of 14/15 year olds in restaurants on their own in Italy for example.
>MacDonalds and
>the like arrange birthdays for childen,
the under 5's maybe...
> your fantasy and knowledge about your childs interests are the
>onl limit.
Which seen as they asked about a restaurant, suggests they might
already have done so.
Jim.
Oct 10th 2004 | 7:18 am
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Re: Thanksgiving in Europe
"Sacha" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BD8F67A2.56BC%[email protected] k...
> On 9/10/04 18:23, in article [email protected], "tim"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "B Vaughan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
> <snip>>>
>>>I don't understand why people can't just skip the Thanksgiving dinner
>>> for one year.
> The OP has not said that they can't do so.
>> Agreed. I can understand the need to 'celebrate' but the requirement
>> that it should consist of exactly the right ingredients seems a tad
>> unnecessary.
>> tim
> The OP did not say that or anything remotely like it.
the OP said.
"but it would be nice to have a traditional Thanksgiving dinner"
that seems pretty close to me.
tim
news:BD8F67A2.56BC%[email protected] k...
> On 9/10/04 18:23, in article [email protected], "tim"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "B Vaughan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
> <snip>>>
>>>I don't understand why people can't just skip the Thanksgiving dinner
>>> for one year.
> The OP has not said that they can't do so.
>> Agreed. I can understand the need to 'celebrate' but the requirement
>> that it should consist of exactly the right ingredients seems a tad
>> unnecessary.
>> tim
> The OP did not say that or anything remotely like it.
the OP said.
"but it would be nice to have a traditional Thanksgiving dinner"
that seems pretty close to me.
tim
Oct 10th 2004 | 7:25 am
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Thanksgiving in Europe
Dans l'article <BD8EFC59.55F1%[email protected]> , Sacha
<[email protected]> a écrit :
> On 10/10/04 12:23, in article [email protected],
> "Magda" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 9 Oct 2004 16:19:36 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected]
(Boris)
>> arranged
>> some electrons, so they looked like this :
>> ... Ok, this may be a stupid question, but my family and I will be in
>> ... Germany over Thanksgiving (an American holiday), and just want to make
>> ... sure that things will be open. I'm assuming they don't celebrate this
>> ... holiday over there.
>> Why on Earth would the German (or any other European, for that matter)
>> celebrate something
>> that's ONLY YOURS ? Do you dance in the streets on Bastille Day ?
> It's possible to find restaurants around UK that serve Thanksgiving dinners
> because of visitors from America and because some Britons like the idea of
> another festive occasion. It is therefore, perfectly sensible to query
> whether or not this might happen in other European countries, too.
> I hope that the people who have answered this query so nastily and in such
> an insular fashion, confine their travelling to a computer group! They would
> all make lousy ambassadors for their own countries in those of others.
> --
> Sacha
> (remove the weeds for email)
There are American restaurants here in Paris that serve the traditional
Thanksgiving dinner. There is a magazine called FUSAC that lists them every
year.
Donna Evleth
>
<[email protected]> a écrit :
> On 10/10/04 12:23, in article [email protected],
> "Magda" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 9 Oct 2004 16:19:36 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected]
(Boris)
>> arranged
>> some electrons, so they looked like this :
>> ... Ok, this may be a stupid question, but my family and I will be in
>> ... Germany over Thanksgiving (an American holiday), and just want to make
>> ... sure that things will be open. I'm assuming they don't celebrate this
>> ... holiday over there.
>> Why on Earth would the German (or any other European, for that matter)
>> celebrate something
>> that's ONLY YOURS ? Do you dance in the streets on Bastille Day ?
> It's possible to find restaurants around UK that serve Thanksgiving dinners
> because of visitors from America and because some Britons like the idea of
> another festive occasion. It is therefore, perfectly sensible to query
> whether or not this might happen in other European countries, too.
> I hope that the people who have answered this query so nastily and in such
> an insular fashion, confine their travelling to a computer group! They would
> all make lousy ambassadors for their own countries in those of others.
> --
> Sacha
> (remove the weeds for email)
There are American restaurants here in Paris that serve the traditional
Thanksgiving dinner. There is a magazine called FUSAC that lists them every
year.
Donna Evleth
>
Oct 10th 2004 | 7:27 am
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Thanksgiving in Europe
Dans l'article <[email protected]>, Nils Zonneveld
<[email protected]> a écrit :
> Magda wrote:
>> On 9 Oct 2004 16:19:36 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected]
> (Boris) arranged
>> some electrons, so they looked like this :
>> ... Ok, this may be a stupid question, but my family and I will be in
>> ... Germany over Thanksgiving (an American holiday), and just want to make
>> ... sure that things will be open. I'm assuming they don't celebrate this
>> ... holiday over there.
>> Why on Earth would the German (or any other European, for that matter)
> celebrate something
>> that's ONLY YOURS ? Do you dance in the streets on Bastille Day ?
> Commerce has already picked up Halloween, at least here in the
> Netherlands. I guess they did in Germany too. Any excuse for yet another
> festive day to market and sell stuff for. So I think it will not be too
> long until Thanksgiving is also discovered by businesses over here in
> Europe :-)
> Nils
Halloween is alive and well here in France. An amusement park off in an out
of the way corner of the department of the Aube is having a Halloween party,
and there are Halloween decorations in all the candy stores here in Paris.
Donna Evleth
>
<[email protected]> a écrit :
> Magda wrote:
>> On 9 Oct 2004 16:19:36 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected]
> (Boris) arranged
>> some electrons, so they looked like this :
>> ... Ok, this may be a stupid question, but my family and I will be in
>> ... Germany over Thanksgiving (an American holiday), and just want to make
>> ... sure that things will be open. I'm assuming they don't celebrate this
>> ... holiday over there.
>> Why on Earth would the German (or any other European, for that matter)
> celebrate something
>> that's ONLY YOURS ? Do you dance in the streets on Bastille Day ?
> Commerce has already picked up Halloween, at least here in the
> Netherlands. I guess they did in Germany too. Any excuse for yet another
> festive day to market and sell stuff for. So I think it will not be too
> long until Thanksgiving is also discovered by businesses over here in
> Europe :-)
> Nils
Halloween is alive and well here in France. An amusement park off in an out
of the way corner of the department of the Aube is having a Halloween party,
and there are Halloween decorations in all the candy stores here in Paris.
Donna Evleth
>
Oct 10th 2004 | 7:34 am
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Thanksgiving in Europe
Dans l'article <[email protected]>, B
Vaughan<[email protected]> a écrit :
> Also, the question isn't really so stupid, because (as I mentioned in
> another post) I was once in Beijing in Beijing on Thanksgiving and
> the hotel I was staying in offered a Thanksgiving meal to visiting
> Americans. (I didn't try it, though.)
> -----------
> Barbara Vaughan
I was once in the British Virgin Islands on Thanksgiving, and you couldn't
get anything in the restaurants BUT a traditional Thanksgiving dinner. Lots
of American tourists was surely the reason.
Donna Evleth
Vaughan<[email protected]> a écrit :
> Also, the question isn't really so stupid, because (as I mentioned in
> another post) I was once in Beijing in Beijing on Thanksgiving and
> the hotel I was staying in offered a Thanksgiving meal to visiting
> Americans. (I didn't try it, though.)
> -----------
> Barbara Vaughan
I was once in the British Virgin Islands on Thanksgiving, and you couldn't
get anything in the restaurants BUT a traditional Thanksgiving dinner. Lots
of American tourists was surely the reason.
Donna Evleth
Oct 10th 2004 | 8:07 am
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Re: Thanksgiving in Europe
On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 17:18:44 +0200, "tim"
<[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 12:29:18 +0200, "tim"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>"Boris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] e.com...
>>>> The follow up to this question is whether we might be able to find a
>>>> traditional Thanksgiving meal in Germany, or is this type of food not
>>>> readily available.
>>>What on earth is "this type of food"? What is it about this meal
>>>that you expect not to be able to find. We have shops here,
>>>IME they sell the same sort of fresh ingredients as an American
>>>shop (even if the choice of prepared food is much more limited)
>> For somebody, who knows nothing about Germany or German food it's a
>> reasonable question.
>No it's not. It pre-supposes that the people being asked know
>what constitues a thanks-giving dinner. I haven't the faintest
>idea.
You may not know, but others do know. If you don't know, you don't
need to answer, you certainly don't need to be rude.
<[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 12:29:18 +0200, "tim"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>"Boris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] e.com...
>>>> The follow up to this question is whether we might be able to find a
>>>> traditional Thanksgiving meal in Germany, or is this type of food not
>>>> readily available.
>>>What on earth is "this type of food"? What is it about this meal
>>>that you expect not to be able to find. We have shops here,
>>>IME they sell the same sort of fresh ingredients as an American
>>>shop (even if the choice of prepared food is much more limited)
>> For somebody, who knows nothing about Germany or German food it's a
>> reasonable question.
>No it's not. It pre-supposes that the people being asked know
>what constitues a thanks-giving dinner. I haven't the faintest
>idea.
You may not know, but others do know. If you don't know, you don't
need to answer, you certainly don't need to be rude.
