Sleeping on long flights - What's the secret?
Dec 1st 2004, 9:33 am
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Re: Sleeping on long flights - What's the secret?
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:30:48 +0100, Magda
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:26:04 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
>electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... >I do a similar thing... usually a couple of valium (1 on boarding, 1
> ... >after dinner) and a couple of drinks and I sleep the rest of the trip.
> ... >
> ... >now though I'm going to try an ambien on the next trip... it works
> ... >faster and surer than valium.
> ... >
> ... >I'm sure you can get it in TJ
> ...
> ... Have you thought what would happen in an accident?
>He will just go to sleep forever. Lucky guy.
or burn to death in a survivable accident?
I hope he's not the pilot.
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:26:04 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
>electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... >I do a similar thing... usually a couple of valium (1 on boarding, 1
> ... >after dinner) and a couple of drinks and I sleep the rest of the trip.
> ... >
> ... >now though I'm going to try an ambien on the next trip... it works
> ... >faster and surer than valium.
> ... >
> ... >I'm sure you can get it in TJ
> ...
> ... Have you thought what would happen in an accident?
>He will just go to sleep forever. Lucky guy.
or burn to death in a survivable accident?
I hope he's not the pilot.
--
Martin
Dec 1st 2004, 9:41 am
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Re: Sleeping on long flights - What's the secret?
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:33:40 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:30:48 +0100, Magda
... <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:26:04 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
... >electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... >I do a similar thing... usually a couple of valium (1 on boarding, 1
... > ... >after dinner) and a couple of drinks and I sleep the rest of the trip.
... > ... >
... > ... >now though I'm going to try an ambien on the next trip... it works
... > ... >faster and surer than valium.
... > ... >
... > ... >I'm sure you can get it in TJ
... > ...
... > ... Have you thought what would happen in an accident?
... >
... >He will just go to sleep forever. Lucky guy.
...
... or burn to death in a survivable accident?
...
... I hope he's not the pilot.
If he was I expect he would not be taking Valium !
electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:30:48 +0100, Magda
... <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:26:04 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
... >electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... >I do a similar thing... usually a couple of valium (1 on boarding, 1
... > ... >after dinner) and a couple of drinks and I sleep the rest of the trip.
... > ... >
... > ... >now though I'm going to try an ambien on the next trip... it works
... > ... >faster and surer than valium.
... > ... >
... > ... >I'm sure you can get it in TJ
... > ...
... > ... Have you thought what would happen in an accident?
... >
... >He will just go to sleep forever. Lucky guy.
...
... or burn to death in a survivable accident?
...
... I hope he's not the pilot.
If he was I expect he would not be taking Valium !
Dec 1st 2004, 9:42 am
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Re: Sleeping on long flights - What's the secret?
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:41:07 +0100, Magda
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:33:40 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
>electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:30:48 +0100, Magda
> ... <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ... >On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:26:04 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
> ... >electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... >
> ... > ... >I do a similar thing... usually a couple of valium (1 on boarding, 1
> ... > ... >after dinner) and a couple of drinks and I sleep the rest of the trip.
> ... > ... >
> ... > ... >now though I'm going to try an ambien on the next trip... it works
> ... > ... >faster and surer than valium.
> ... > ... >
> ... > ... >I'm sure you can get it in TJ
> ... > ...
> ... > ... Have you thought what would happen in an accident?
> ... >
> ... >He will just go to sleep forever. Lucky guy.
> ...
> ... or burn to death in a survivable accident?
> ...
> ... I hope he's not the pilot.
>If he was I expect he would not be taking Valium !
maybe he is frightened of flying?
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:33:40 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
>electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:30:48 +0100, Magda
> ... <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ... >On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:26:04 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
> ... >electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... >
> ... > ... >I do a similar thing... usually a couple of valium (1 on boarding, 1
> ... > ... >after dinner) and a couple of drinks and I sleep the rest of the trip.
> ... > ... >
> ... > ... >now though I'm going to try an ambien on the next trip... it works
> ... > ... >faster and surer than valium.
> ... > ... >
> ... > ... >I'm sure you can get it in TJ
> ... > ...
> ... > ... Have you thought what would happen in an accident?
> ... >
> ... >He will just go to sleep forever. Lucky guy.
> ...
> ... or burn to death in a survivable accident?
> ...
> ... I hope he's not the pilot.
>If he was I expect he would not be taking Valium !
maybe he is frightened of flying?
--
Martin
Dec 1st 2004, 1:00 pm
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Re: Sleeping on long flights - What's the secret?
> I do a similar thing... usually a couple of valium (1 on boarding,
> 1 after dinner) and a couple of drinks and I sleep the rest of the
> trip.
> now though I'm going to try an ambien on the next trip... it works
> faster and surer than valium.
Benzodiazepines like these are disinhibitors as well as sedatives.
In some people this can lead to attacks of explosive rage or
suicidal behaviour. General use of these drugs for sleep on long-
haul flights would lead to a lot more flights being diverted or
aborted from air rage.
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> 1 after dinner) and a couple of drinks and I sleep the rest of the
> trip.
> now though I'm going to try an ambien on the next trip... it works
> faster and surer than valium.
Benzodiazepines like these are disinhibitors as well as sedatives.
In some people this can lead to attacks of explosive rage or
suicidal behaviour. General use of these drugs for sleep on long-
haul flights would lead to a lot more flights being diverted or
aborted from air rage.
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Dec 2nd 2004, 3:36 am
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Re: Sleeping on long flights - What's the secret?
Jeremy Henderson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2004-11-23 06:11:48 +0100, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) said:
>> 4. Window seat. Having the wall to lean against makes a big difference.
>>
>> 5. Pee before you get on the plane.
> but for those of us with less cast-iron bladders, an aisle seat is
> preferable. In fact I find window seats horribly claustrophobic at the
> best of times. Being stuck in one and feeling inhibited about
> disturbing my sleeping neighbours in order to take a leak is my idea of
> hell :-)
Just had a 12-hour flight. I was stuck in an aisle seat, though due to most
of my innards being bladder, I didn't ever get up. The two people next to
me, however, must have had a private keg of lager under the seat, because
they were off to the bog every couple hours.
The first time was before the meal, the second time was during the movie.
The third time I had been asleep, but woke up to let them out and back in.
The fourth time I was so sound asleep that I barely noticed them climbing
over me. I guess there was a fifth and a sixth time but I slept through it.
I think if someone in the window seat is going to have to pee that often,
they might want to offer to switch with the person on the aisle.
miguel
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> On 2004-11-23 06:11:48 +0100, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) said:
>> 4. Window seat. Having the wall to lean against makes a big difference.
>>
>> 5. Pee before you get on the plane.
> but for those of us with less cast-iron bladders, an aisle seat is
> preferable. In fact I find window seats horribly claustrophobic at the
> best of times. Being stuck in one and feeling inhibited about
> disturbing my sleeping neighbours in order to take a leak is my idea of
> hell :-)
Just had a 12-hour flight. I was stuck in an aisle seat, though due to most
of my innards being bladder, I didn't ever get up. The two people next to
me, however, must have had a private keg of lager under the seat, because
they were off to the bog every couple hours.
The first time was before the meal, the second time was during the movie.
The third time I had been asleep, but woke up to let them out and back in.
The fourth time I was so sound asleep that I barely noticed them climbing
over me. I guess there was a fifth and a sixth time but I slept through it.
I think if someone in the window seat is going to have to pee that often,
they might want to offer to switch with the person on the aisle.
miguel
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Dec 2nd 2004, 3:38 am
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On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:36:45 -0600, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz)
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... Just had a 12-hour flight. I was stuck in an aisle seat, though due to most
... of my innards being bladder, I didn't ever get up. The two people next to
... me, however, must have had a private keg of lager under the seat, because
... they were off to the bog every couple hours.
...
... The first time was before the meal, the second time was during the movie.
... The third time I had been asleep, but woke up to let them out and back in.
... The fourth time I was so sound asleep that I barely noticed them climbing
... over me. I guess there was a fifth and a sixth time but I slept through it.
...
... I think if someone in the window seat is going to have to pee that often,
... they might want to offer to switch with the person on the aisle.
But you are tall and they probably thought you needed the extra leg room.
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... Just had a 12-hour flight. I was stuck in an aisle seat, though due to most
... of my innards being bladder, I didn't ever get up. The two people next to
... me, however, must have had a private keg of lager under the seat, because
... they were off to the bog every couple hours.
...
... The first time was before the meal, the second time was during the movie.
... The third time I had been asleep, but woke up to let them out and back in.
... The fourth time I was so sound asleep that I barely noticed them climbing
... over me. I guess there was a fifth and a sixth time but I slept through it.
...
... I think if someone in the window seat is going to have to pee that often,
... they might want to offer to switch with the person on the aisle.
But you are tall and they probably thought you needed the extra leg room.
Dec 2nd 2004, 4:02 am
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Magda <> wrote:
> [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>> Just had a 12-hour flight. I was stuck in an aisle seat, though due to most
>> of my innards being bladder, I didn't ever get up. The two people next to
>> me, however, must have had a private keg of lager under the seat, because
>> they were off to the bog every couple hours.
>>
>> The first time was before the meal, the second time was during the movie.
>> The third time I had been asleep, but woke up to let them out and back in.
>> The fourth time I was so sound asleep that I barely noticed them climbing
>> over me. I guess there was a fifth and a sixth time but I slept through it.
>>
>> I think if someone in the window seat is going to have to pee that often,
>> they might want to offer to switch with the person on the aisle.
> But you are tall and they probably thought you needed the extra leg room.
As a tall person I find a window seat much more comfortable. It's not as if
I an stretch my legs out into the aisle to sleep; they'll be run over by
beverage carts and I'll be tripping people on their way to the toilet.
The issue is that it's quite difficult to find a position in an aisle or
center seat that doesn't require using some muscle power to hold my legs in
place, because there's not enough room to sit normally - I have to keep my
knees apart and feet together. This is tiring. With a window seat I can lean
them against the wall.
miguel
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> [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>> Just had a 12-hour flight. I was stuck in an aisle seat, though due to most
>> of my innards being bladder, I didn't ever get up. The two people next to
>> me, however, must have had a private keg of lager under the seat, because
>> they were off to the bog every couple hours.
>>
>> The first time was before the meal, the second time was during the movie.
>> The third time I had been asleep, but woke up to let them out and back in.
>> The fourth time I was so sound asleep that I barely noticed them climbing
>> over me. I guess there was a fifth and a sixth time but I slept through it.
>>
>> I think if someone in the window seat is going to have to pee that often,
>> they might want to offer to switch with the person on the aisle.
> But you are tall and they probably thought you needed the extra leg room.
As a tall person I find a window seat much more comfortable. It's not as if
I an stretch my legs out into the aisle to sleep; they'll be run over by
beverage carts and I'll be tripping people on their way to the toilet.
The issue is that it's quite difficult to find a position in an aisle or
center seat that doesn't require using some muscle power to hold my legs in
place, because there's not enough room to sit normally - I have to keep my
knees apart and feet together. This is tiring. With a window seat I can lean
them against the wall.
miguel
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Dec 2nd 2004, 8:26 am
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Following up to [email protected]
>> ... I hope he's not the pilot.
>>If he was I expect he would not be taking Valium !
>maybe he is frightened of flying?
the pilot?
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>> ... I hope he's not the pilot.
>>If he was I expect he would not be taking Valium !
>maybe he is frightened of flying?
the pilot?
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Dec 2nd 2004, 8:33 am
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On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:26:44 +0000, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to [email protected]
>>> ... I hope he's not the pilot.
>>>If he was I expect he would not be taking Valium !
>>maybe he is frightened of flying?
>the pilot?
Of course, they are only human.
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to [email protected]
>>> ... I hope he's not the pilot.
>>>If he was I expect he would not be taking Valium !
>>maybe he is frightened of flying?
>the pilot?
Of course, they are only human.
--
Martin
Dec 2nd 2004, 10:30 am
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<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:26:44 +0000, The Reids
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Following up to [email protected]
> >
> >>> ... I hope he's not the pilot.
> >>>
> >>>If he was I expect he would not be taking Valium !
> >>
> >>maybe he is frightened of flying?
> >
> >the pilot?
>
> Of course, they are only human.
Oh, well one pilot seems to have found a workaround!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/4061783.stm
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> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:26:44 +0000, The Reids
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Following up to [email protected]
> >
> >>> ... I hope he's not the pilot.
> >>>
> >>>If he was I expect he would not be taking Valium !
> >>
> >>maybe he is frightened of flying?
> >
> >the pilot?
>
> Of course, they are only human.
Oh, well one pilot seems to have found a workaround!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/4061783.stm
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Dec 2nd 2004, 12:28 pm
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
(Miguel Cruz) wrote:
> I think if someone in the window seat is going to have to pee that often,
> they might want to offer to switch with the person on the aisle.
I went for the aisle last trip (A) because I had discovered I couldn't
sleep next to the window worth two cents anyway and it WAS nice not to
have to disturb anyone and (B) baecause my left leg was acting up and I
wanted to be able to stretch it. Aisle for me in future--there's also
more foot room when you're away from the window!
--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)
You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument
is that reason doesn't count. Isaac Asimov
Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
(Miguel Cruz) wrote:
> I think if someone in the window seat is going to have to pee that often,
> they might want to offer to switch with the person on the aisle.
I went for the aisle last trip (A) because I had discovered I couldn't
sleep next to the window worth two cents anyway and it WAS nice not to
have to disturb anyone and (B) baecause my left leg was acting up and I
wanted to be able to stretch it. Aisle for me in future--there's also
more foot room when you're away from the window!
--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)
You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument
is that reason doesn't count. Isaac Asimov
Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
Dec 2nd 2004, 8:53 pm
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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 23:30:26 +0000, [email protected]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:26:44 +0000, The Reids
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Following up to [email protected]
>> >
>> >>> ... I hope he's not the pilot.
>> >>>
>> >>>If he was I expect he would not be taking Valium !
>> >>
>> >>maybe he is frightened of flying?
>> >
>> >the pilot?
>>
>> Of course, they are only human.
>Oh, well one pilot seems to have found a workaround!
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/4061783.stm
It was this sort of thing that I had in mind.
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Martin
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:26:44 +0000, The Reids
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Following up to [email protected]
>> >
>> >>> ... I hope he's not the pilot.
>> >>>
>> >>>If he was I expect he would not be taking Valium !
>> >>
>> >>maybe he is frightened of flying?
>> >
>> >the pilot?
>>
>> Of course, they are only human.
>Oh, well one pilot seems to have found a workaround!
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/4061783.stm
It was this sort of thing that I had in mind.
--
Martin
Dec 6th 2004, 10:31 pm
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"erilar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>> I think if someone in the window seat is going to have to pee that often,
>> they might want to offer to switch with the person on the aisle.
> I went for the aisle last trip (A) because I had discovered I couldn't
> sleep next to the window worth two cents anyway and it WAS nice not to
> have to disturb anyone and (B) baecause my left leg was acting up and I
> wanted to be able to stretch it. Aisle for me in future--there's also
> more foot room when you're away from the window!
> --
> Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)
> You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument
> is that reason doesn't count. Isaac Asimov
> Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
Some airlines place "the entertainment box" under the front seat in front of
you in that seat which gives you less space for your feet.
Nik
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>> I think if someone in the window seat is going to have to pee that often,
>> they might want to offer to switch with the person on the aisle.
> I went for the aisle last trip (A) because I had discovered I couldn't
> sleep next to the window worth two cents anyway and it WAS nice not to
> have to disturb anyone and (B) baecause my left leg was acting up and I
> wanted to be able to stretch it. Aisle for me in future--there's also
> more foot room when you're away from the window!
> --
> Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)
> You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument
> is that reason doesn't count. Isaac Asimov
> Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
Some airlines place "the entertainment box" under the front seat in front of
you in that seat which gives you less space for your feet.
Nik
