I'm having the hardest time making arrangements for a rental car for
the summer. I'm going to be arriving in Europe in Vienna, then heading
down the coast to Dubrovnik for 4 weeks before flying out of Vienna
again.
------------------------
My initial plan was to rent a car in Vienna for the summer, and return
it to the same place a month later. But there are two prohibiting
factors:
1) 12 Euro fee per day for taking a rental car into Croatia
2) My credit card insurance does not cover rentals of over 15 days, so
I need to take the Collision insurance (at 1.5 times the normal
rate).

Those two things combined make renting a car for the summer
prohibitive...in the range of 2000 euros!
-------------------------
So my second plan was to Lease a car for the month. Lease rates are
marginally better than rental rates...about E1400 for the month. But
I'd like to do better. This is still pretty high.
-------------------------
My current effort is to rent a car in Vienna, drive to Croatia and
drop off the car in Dubrovnik 3 days later. Then rent a local car or
use local transport for the summer.

Unfortunately, I cannot find a single car rental agency that will let
do a one-way rental into Croatia!!
-------------------------
How in the world do people get into Croatia and spend a long time?
Certainly there must be affordable car rentals that allow a drop off
in Dubrovnik.

Can anyone help me out??

Thanks
--riverman

"riverman" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> I'm having the hardest time making arrangements for a rental car for
> the summer. I'm going to be arriving in Europe in Vienna, then heading
> down the coast to Dubrovnik for 4 weeks before flying out of Vienna
> again.
> ------------------------
> My initial plan was to rent a car in Vienna for the summer, and return
> it to the same place a month later. But there are two prohibiting
> factors:
> 1) 12 Euro fee per day for taking a rental car into Croatia
> 2) My credit card insurance does not cover rentals of over 15 days, so
> I need to take the Collision insurance (at 1.5 times the normal
> rate).
>
> Those two things combined make renting a car for the summer
> prohibitive...in the range of 2000 euros!
> -------------------------
> So my second plan was to Lease a car for the month. Lease rates are
> marginally better than rental rates...about E1400 for the month. But
> I'd like to do better. This is still pretty high.
> -------------------------
> My current effort is to rent a car in Vienna, drive to Croatia and
> drop off the car in Dubrovnik 3 days later. Then rent a local car or
> use local transport for the summer.
>
> Unfortunately, I cannot find a single car rental agency that will let
> do a one-way rental into Croatia!!
> -------------------------
> How in the world do people get into Croatia and spend a long time?
> Certainly there must be affordable car rentals that allow a drop off
> in Dubrovnik.
>
> Can anyone help me out??
>
> Thanks
> --riverman
>

I would fly to Vienna. then fly Skyeurope to Dubrovnik and rent a car in
Dubrovnik..
Croatia is not a member of EU.. therefore there are difficulties.

"tile" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "riverman" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>> I'm having the hardest time making arrangements for a rental car for
>> the summer. I'm going to be arriving in Europe in Vienna, then heading
>> down the coast to Dubrovnik for 4 weeks before flying out of Vienna
>> again.
>> ---------

>> -------------------------
>> How in the world do people get into Croatia and spend a long time?
>> Certainly there must be affordable car rentals that allow a drop off
>> in Dubrovnik.
>>
>> Can anyone help me out??
>>
>> Thanks
>> --riverman
>>
>
> I would fly to Vienna. then fly Skyeurope to Dubrovnik and rent a car in
> Dubrovnik..
> Croatia is not a member of EU.. therefore there are difficulties.

It also has some of the worst driving standards that I
have seen in any European country (including Belgium)
and a very high risk of car theft.

tim

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:50:24 +0100, "tim....." <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"tile" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>>
>> "riverman" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
>> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>>> I'm having the hardest time making arrangements for a rental car for
>>> the summer. I'm going to be arriving in Europe in Vienna, then heading
>>> down the coast to Dubrovnik for 4 weeks before flying out of Vienna
>>> again.
>>> ---------
>
>>> -------------------------
>>> How in the world do people get into Croatia and spend a long time?
>>> Certainly there must be affordable car rentals that allow a drop off
>>> in Dubrovnik.
>>>
>>> Can anyone help me out??
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> --riverman
>>>
>>
>> I would fly to Vienna. then fly Skyeurope to Dubrovnik and rent a car in
>> Dubrovnik..
>> Croatia is not a member of EU.. therefore there are difficulties.
>
>It also has some of the worst driving standards that I
>have seen in any European country (including Belgium)
>and a very high risk of car theft.

Belgium? What has Belgium ever done to upset you?
--

Martin

"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:50:24 +0100, "tim....." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"tile" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>>
>>> "riverman" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
>>> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>>>> I'm having the hardest time making arrangements for a rental car for
>>>> the summer. I'm going to be arriving in Europe in Vienna, then heading
>>>> down the coast to Dubrovnik for 4 weeks before flying out of Vienna
>>>> again.
>>>> ---------
>>
>>>> -------------------------
>>>> How in the world do people get into Croatia and spend a long time?
>>>> Certainly there must be affordable car rentals that allow a drop off
>>>> in Dubrovnik.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone help me out??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> --riverman
>>>>
>>>
>>> I would fly to Vienna. then fly Skyeurope to Dubrovnik and rent a car in
>>> Dubrovnik..
>>> Croatia is not a member of EU.. therefore there are difficulties.
>>
>>It also has some of the worst driving standards that I
>>have seen in any European country (including Belgium)
>>and a very high risk of car theft.
>
> Belgium? What has Belgium ever done to upset you?

Agreed. I have driven quite a lot in Belgium and certainly find them much
better than the French.

JohnT

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:28:44 +0100, "JohnT" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:50:24 +0100, "tim....." <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"tile" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected].. .
>>>>
>>>> "riverman" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
>>>> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>>>>> I'm having the hardest time making arrangements for a rental car for
>>>>> the summer. I'm going to be arriving in Europe in Vienna, then heading
>>>>> down the coast to Dubrovnik for 4 weeks before flying out of Vienna
>>>>> again.
>>>>> ---------
>>>
>>>>> -------------------------
>>>>> How in the world do people get into Croatia and spend a long time?
>>>>> Certainly there must be affordable car rentals that allow a drop off
>>>>> in Dubrovnik.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone help me out??
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> --riverman
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would fly to Vienna. then fly Skyeurope to Dubrovnik and rent a car in
>>>> Dubrovnik..
>>>> Croatia is not a member of EU.. therefore there are difficulties.
>>>
>>>It also has some of the worst driving standards that I
>>>have seen in any European country (including Belgium)
>>>and a very high risk of car theft.
>>
>> Belgium? What has Belgium ever done to upset you?
>
>Agreed. I have driven quite a lot in Belgium and certainly find them much
>better than the French.

At the moment I find driving in UK pretty hairy at times.
--

Martin

Make credence recognised that on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:40:45 +0200,
Martin <[email protected]> has scripted:

>On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:28:44 +0100, "JohnT" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:50:24 +0100, "tim....." <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"tile" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>>>>
>>>>> "riverman" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
>>>>> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>>>>>> I'm having the hardest time making arrangements for a rental car for
>>>>>> the summer. I'm going to be arriving in Europe in Vienna, then heading
>>>>>> down the coast to Dubrovnik for 4 weeks before flying out of Vienna
>>>>>> again.
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>
>>>>>> -------------------------
>>>>>> How in the world do people get into Croatia and spend a long time?
>>>>>> Certainly there must be affordable car rentals that allow a drop off
>>>>>> in Dubrovnik.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone help me out??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> --riverman
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would fly to Vienna. then fly Skyeurope to Dubrovnik and rent a car in
>>>>> Dubrovnik..
>>>>> Croatia is not a member of EU.. therefore there are difficulties.
>>>>
>>>>It also has some of the worst driving standards that I
>>>>have seen in any European country (including Belgium)
>>>>and a very high risk of car theft.
>>>
>>> Belgium? What has Belgium ever done to upset you?
>>
>>Agreed. I have driven quite a lot in Belgium and certainly find them much
>>better than the French.
>
>At the moment I find driving in UK pretty hairy at times.

It's entering holiday season on the riviera, and I'm finding the
traffic here borderline nasty. At least 3 accidents today that I saw,
all of them with cars, and I only did a 32 km round trip.
--
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:35:18 GMT, "tile"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"riverman" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
>news:[email protected] oups.com...
>> I'm having the hardest time making arrangements for a rental car for
>> the summer. I'm going to be arriving in Europe in Vienna, then heading
>> down the coast to Dubrovnik for 4 weeks before flying out of Vienna
>> again.
>> ------------------------
>> My initial plan was to rent a car in Vienna for the summer, and return
>> it to the same place a month later. But there are two prohibiting
>> factors:
>> 1) 12 Euro fee per day for taking a rental car into Croatia
>> 2) My credit card insurance does not cover rentals of over 15 days, so
>> I need to take the Collision insurance (at 1.5 times the normal
>> rate).
>>
>> Those two things combined make renting a car for the summer
>> prohibitive...in the range of 2000 euros!
>> -------------------------
>> So my second plan was to Lease a car for the month. Lease rates are
>> marginally better than rental rates...about E1400 for the month. But
>> I'd like to do better. This is still pretty high.
>> -------------------------
>> My current effort is to rent a car in Vienna, drive to Croatia and
>> drop off the car in Dubrovnik 3 days later. Then rent a local car or
>> use local transport for the summer.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I cannot find a single car rental agency that will let
>> do a one-way rental into Croatia!!
>> -------------------------
>> How in the world do people get into Croatia and spend a long time?
>> Certainly there must be affordable car rentals that allow a drop off
>> in Dubrovnik.
>>
>> Can anyone help me out??
>>
>> Thanks
>> --riverman
>>
>
> I would fly to Vienna. then fly Skyeurope to Dubrovnik and rent a car in
>Dubrovnik..
>Croatia is not a member of EU.. therefore there are difficulties.
>

Sounds like good advice to me. Rent and return the first car
in Austria (still time to drive down to Venice, Trieste or
similar and return), fly or rail to Croatia and do the same
thing from the entry port. It also means that the two rental
cars should be within your 15 day insurance window.

I know that, despite expanding the countries covered by
their leaseback system, the French Eurodrive cars still
excluded insurance cover for Croatia and the other
ex-Jugoslav countries; the only exception was Slovenia.


Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Athens and The Adriatic
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/

On Apr 18, 9:33 am, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:35:18 GMT, "tile"
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >"riverman" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
> >news:[email protected] oups.com...
> >> I'm having the hardest time making arrangements for a rental car for
> >> the summer. I'm going to be arriving in Europe in Vienna, then heading
> >> down the coast to Dubrovnik for 4 weeks before flying out of Vienna
> >> again.
> >> ------------------------
> >> My initial plan was to rent a car in Vienna for the summer, and return
> >> it to the same place a month later. But there are two prohibiting
> >> factors:
> >> 1) 12 Euro fee per day for taking a rental car into Croatia
> >> 2) My credit card insurance does not cover rentals of over 15 days, so
> >> I need to take the Collision insurance (at 1.5 times the normal
> >> rate).
>
> >> Those two things combined make renting a car for the summer
> >> prohibitive...in the range of 2000 euros!
> >> -------------------------
> >> So my second plan was to Lease a car for the month. Lease rates are
> >> marginally better than rental rates...about E1400 for the month. But
> >> I'd like to do better. This is still pretty high.
> >> -------------------------
> >> My current effort is to rent a car in Vienna, drive to Croatia and
> >> drop off the car in Dubrovnik 3 days later. Then rent a local car or
> >> use local transport for the summer.
>
> >> Unfortunately, I cannot find a single car rental agency that will let
> >> do a one-way rental into Croatia!!
> >> -------------------------
> >> How in the world do people get into Croatia and spend a long time?
> >> Certainly there must be affordable car rentals that allow a drop off
> >> in Dubrovnik.
>
> >> Can anyone help me out??
>
> >> Thanks
> >> --riverman
>
> > I would fly to Vienna. then fly Skyeurope to Dubrovnik and rent a car in
> >Dubrovnik..
> >Croatia is not a member of EU.. therefore there are difficulties.
>
> Sounds like good advice to me. Rent and return the first car
> in Austria (still time to drive down to Venice, Trieste or
> similar and return), fly or rail to Croatia and do the same
> thing from the entry port. It also means that the two rental
> cars should be within your 15 day insurance window.
>
> I know that, despite expanding the countries covered by
> their leaseback system, the French Eurodrive cars still
> excluded insurance cover for Croatia and the other
> ex-Jugoslav countries; the only exception was Slovenia.
>
> Cheers, Alan, Australia
> --http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
> latest: Athens and The Adriatichttp://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks, Alan (and others). Your insights mirror what I have found.
Bizarre, as agencies such as Budget have offices in both Vienna and
Dubrovnik, but do not allow one-way rentals between them.

So my new current plan is to get from Vienna to Zagreb, and rent from
Advantage Rent A Car in Zagreb for 15 days, with a drop off in
Dubrovnik. Then spend the night in Dubrovnik, and pick the car back up
the next day (making it a separate rental vis a vis my credit card),
and do another 13day one-way rental back to Zagreb. Sounds ludicrous,
but it works.

My last question: can anyone point me to the train fares between
Vienna and Zagreb? I've had no luck with google.

--riverman

On Apr 18, 9:33 am, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:

> I know that, despite expanding the countries covered by
> their leaseback system, the French Eurodrive cars still
> excluded insurance cover for Croatia and the other
> ex-Jugoslav countries; the only exception was Slovenia.

Actually, Peugeot has a leaseback that allows travel in Croatia, but
not the ex-Soviet Union countries insurance cover is the limiting
factor). But they don't deliver to Vienna...I have to fly into
Frankfort and pay US$160 on both ends for pickup and dropoff.

Personally, I've never done a leaseback and am deeply intrigued by it,
but a little suspicious. Are there any hidden pitfalls? What can you
tell me about it?

--riverman

riverman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bizarre, as agencies such as Budget have offices in both Vienna and
> Dubrovnik, but do not allow one-way rentals between them.

It's not really that bizarre. Budget has a location in Tel Aviv. Would
it surprise you if one-way rentals were not allowed from Vienna to Tel
Aviv? Dubrovnik might as well be Tel Aviv. Croatia is not even in the EU.

--
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

hahaha martin the funny clown at it again
Nvm if the guy needed help

"Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:50:24 +0100, "tim....." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"tile" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>>
>>> "riverman" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
>>> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>>>> I'm having the hardest time making arrangements for a rental car for
>>>> the summer. I'm going to be arriving in Europe in Vienna, then heading
>>>> down the coast to Dubrovnik for 4 weeks before flying out of Vienna
>>>> again.
>>>> ---------
>>
>>>> -------------------------
>>>> How in the world do people get into Croatia and spend a long time?
>>>> Certainly there must be affordable car rentals that allow a drop off
>>>> in Dubrovnik.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone help me out??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> --riverman
>>>>
>>>
>>> I would fly to Vienna. then fly Skyeurope to Dubrovnik and rent a car in
>>> Dubrovnik..
>>> Croatia is not a member of EU.. therefore there are difficulties.
>>
>>It also has some of the worst driving standards that I
>>have seen in any European country (including Belgium)
>>and a very high risk of car theft.
>
> Belgium? What has Belgium ever done to upset you?
> --
>
> Martin
>

On 17 Apr 2007 20:02:16 -0700, riverman
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Apr 18, 9:33 am, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I know that, despite expanding the countries covered by
>> their leaseback system, the French Eurodrive cars still
>> excluded insurance cover for Croatia and the other
>> ex-Jugoslav countries; the only exception was Slovenia.
>
>Actually, Peugeot has a leaseback that allows travel in Croatia, but
>not the ex-Soviet Union countries insurance cover is the limiting
>factor). But they don't deliver to Vienna...I have to fly into
>Frankfort and pay US$160 on both ends for pickup and dropoff.
>
>Personally, I've never done a leaseback and am deeply intrigued by it,
>but a little suspicious. Are there any hidden pitfalls? What can you
>tell me about it?
>
>--riverman

Croatia must have been added since my trip last May-June.
All three (Renault, Peugeot and Citroen) had similar
insurance rules then.

I've used Eurodrive Renault leaseback twice, nine weeks in
2003 and six weeks in 2006.

What's the catch? Darned if I know. No pitfalls that I
found.

Full roadside service; my only hassle was a tricky doorkey
that the Renault Agent in Menton couldn't repair, so we were
careful not to lose the other one.

Brand new car (the first had 11km on the clock, the second
24km)

Full insurance, no excess or extra CDW or personal insurance
of any sort, you are the owner for the period of the lease
and treated as such.

I returned both vehicles with minor damage. A broken mirror
and a minor side scrape on the first, a minor door scrape on
the second (Yeah, I know - but you do 11000km on the wrong
side of the road and see how you go). I pointed out the
damage both times on return, the guy put a tick in his box,
and said "no problem, goodbye." I must admit that I waited
for something in the mail after the first one - but nothing
from either.

And the price worked out at 18 euros per day for my 1.5
manual turbo diesel A/C Clio the first time and 24 euros pd
the second time. Bloody brilliant little car for European
driving. Nippy, strong and incredible fuel consumption -
better than 20km/ltr.



Unbeatable for a long rental/lease.

No - I don't get a cut - I wish:-)

If Renault, Peugeot or Citroen are prepared to cover you in
Croatia, and the pickup/delivery hassle can be sorted out
and the price looks OK, go for it.



Cheers, Alan, Australia
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latest: Athens and The Adriatic
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/

"tile" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
viestissä:[email protected] t...
>
>
> I would fly to Vienna. then fly Skyeurope to Dubrovnik and rent a car in
> Dubrovnik..
> Croatia is not a member of EU.. therefore there are difficulties.
Switzerland is not an EU country and yet it functions as EU member countries
in this respect. The Baltic states and Poland are EU countries and yet they
are in position similar to Croatia. I guess it has little to do with EU
membership but with insurance policies. Where risks are particularly high,
you don't drive a car there or you pay excessively on short term insurances.
Naturally one way rental is also pretty expensive a procedure in terms of
stocks.

Car rental aside and car driving in general is pretty different depending on
in which part of Europe you are doing it. For the Finnish mobilists the
Nordic countries are more or less one homogeneous realm. Car insurances work
by the same parameters throughout the region. Western Europe is also very
similar. Typically, excesses are somewhat higher than in the Nordic
countries. In the Baltic states and in many eastern European countries
policies also work similarly except that due to high frequency of car theft,
the policy covering these incidents have very high excess. Typically
something like 20-30% of the insured value of the vehicle. Nowadays the
margin is not necesessarily quite as hefty but 10% is still quite usual.
Then there is Russia (is anybody willing to drive their own cars to the
Empire of Evil) where non-Russian policies are void and Russian ones are
about as practical as Mickey Mouse money at malls.

On Apr 18, 12:20 pm, [email protected] (Király) wrote:
> riverman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Bizarre, as agencies such as Budget have offices in both Vienna and
> > Dubrovnik, but do not allow one-way rentals between them.
>
> It's not really that bizarre. Budget has a location in Tel Aviv. Would
> it surprise you if one-way rentals were not allowed from Vienna to Tel
> Aviv? Dubrovnik might as well be Tel Aviv. Croatia is not even in the EU.
>

Actually, it WOULD suprise me if one-way rentals were not allowed to
Tel Aviv. Why would they not?

--riverman