most overrated European destinations
Sep 18th 2002 | 6:16 pm
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Re: most overrated European destinations
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 07:40:15 +0200, [email protected] (Luca Logi) wrote:
>Pan wrote:
>> Unfortunately, no such reservation system exists for the Duomo or
>> Baptistery, I would think. I'm glad I saw their insides in 1991 and
>> 1994. I may never see them again.
>It is extremely simple to see the Duomo without queueing: you simply
>attend a Mass (there is an entrance for worshippers on the right side).
>Of course I give you this advice in the hope nobody will cheat, just to
>remember that a Cathedral isn't a museum...
I'd never attend a mass in order to visit a church. I'm not a
Christian!
Best,
Michael
>Pan wrote:
>> Unfortunately, no such reservation system exists for the Duomo or
>> Baptistery, I would think. I'm glad I saw their insides in 1991 and
>> 1994. I may never see them again.
>It is extremely simple to see the Duomo without queueing: you simply
>attend a Mass (there is an entrance for worshippers on the right side).
>Of course I give you this advice in the hope nobody will cheat, just to
>remember that a Cathedral isn't a museum...
I'd never attend a mass in order to visit a church. I'm not a
Christian!
Best,
Michael
Sep 18th 2002 | 6:45 pm
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Re: most overrated European destinations
Douglas H: How about Cap Ferrat?
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Sep 18th 2002 | 7:01 pm
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Re: most overrated European destinations
Pan wrote:
> >It is extremely simple to see the Duomo without queueing: you simply
> >attend a Mass (there is an entrance for worshippers on the right side).
> >Of course I give you this advice in the hope nobody will cheat, just to
> >remember that a Cathedral isn't a museum...
> I'd never attend a mass in order to visit a church. I'm not a
> Christian!
You wouldn't be hurted either
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> >It is extremely simple to see the Duomo without queueing: you simply
> >attend a Mass (there is an entrance for worshippers on the right side).
> >Of course I give you this advice in the hope nobody will cheat, just to
> >remember that a Cathedral isn't a museum...
> I'd never attend a mass in order to visit a church. I'm not a
> Christian!
You wouldn't be hurted either
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Luca Logi - Firenze - Italy e-mail: [email protected]
Sep 18th 2002 | 7:28 pm
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Re: most overrated European destinations
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 09:01:21 +0200, [email protected] (Luca Logi) wrote:
>Pan wrote:
>> >It is extremely simple to see the Duomo without queueing: you simply
>> >attend a Mass (there is an entrance for worshippers on the right side).
>> >Of course I give you this advice in the hope nobody will cheat, just to
>> >remember that a Cathedral isn't a museum...
>> I'd never attend a mass in order to visit a church. I'm not a
>> Christian!
>You wouldn't be hurted either
You mean wounded? [LOL!]
Best,
Michael
>Pan wrote:
>> >It is extremely simple to see the Duomo without queueing: you simply
>> >attend a Mass (there is an entrance for worshippers on the right side).
>> >Of course I give you this advice in the hope nobody will cheat, just to
>> >remember that a Cathedral isn't a museum...
>> I'd never attend a mass in order to visit a church. I'm not a
>> Christian!
>You wouldn't be hurted either
You mean wounded? [LOL!]
Best,
Michael
Sep 18th 2002 | 7:31 pm
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Re: most overrated European destinations
> > I'd never attend a mass in order to visit a church. I'm not a
> > Christian!
> You wouldn't be hurted either
No, but you'd be stuck in the place for the duration of the service -
whereas you can leave any time you want once you've queued up to get in. I
suppose the total amount of time would be about the same.
> > Christian!
> You wouldn't be hurted either
No, but you'd be stuck in the place for the duration of the service -
whereas you can leave any time you want once you've queued up to get in. I
suppose the total amount of time would be about the same.
Sep 18th 2002 | 8:50 pm
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> Heh. No doubt 30 miles out from London is just a coincidence, but
> couldn't resist...
Trouble is, an overshoot from Luton would probably hit me!
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> Heh. No doubt 30 miles out from London is just a coincidence, but
> couldn't resist...
Trouble is, an overshoot from Luton would probably hit me!
Surreyman
Sep 18th 2002 | 11:41 pm
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Keeger wrote:
> Barbara Vaughan wrote:
> >Samuel Johnson said, "The man who is tired of London is tired of life."
> >
> >I wish I could get there once a year.
> >Barbara
> It's hard not to when you live on the east coast of the US. The fares
> between October and March are hard to turn down.
I live in Italy, where I can find even cheaper fares (sometimes as
little as $20 roundtrip). It's the time mainly that prevents me from
going more frequently. Plus it's certainly not cheap to eat and sleep
there.
Barbara
> Barbara Vaughan wrote:
> >Samuel Johnson said, "The man who is tired of London is tired of life."
> >
> >I wish I could get there once a year.
> >Barbara
> It's hard not to when you live on the east coast of the US. The fares
> between October and March are hard to turn down.
I live in Italy, where I can find even cheaper fares (sometimes as
little as $20 roundtrip). It's the time mainly that prevents me from
going more frequently. Plus it's certainly not cheap to eat and sleep
there.
Barbara
Sep 19th 2002 | 2:01 am
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Re: most overrated European destinations
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 06:16:38 GMT, [email protected] (Pan) wrote:
>On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 07:40:15 +0200, [email protected] (Luca Logi) wrote:
>>Pan wrote:
>>> Unfortunately, no such reservation system exists for the Duomo or
>>> Baptistery, I would think. I'm glad I saw their insides in 1991 and
>>> 1994. I may never see them again.
>>It is extremely simple to see the Duomo without queueing: you simply
>>attend a Mass (there is an entrance for worshippers on the right side).
>>Of course I give you this advice in the hope nobody will cheat, just to
>>remember that a Cathedral isn't a museum...
>I'd never attend a mass in order to visit a church. I'm not a
>Christian!
Why not? I'm not Catholic, but I'e attended services; I'm not Muslim,
but I've visited a mosque while a service was going on.
************ DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) ***********
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>On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 07:40:15 +0200, [email protected] (Luca Logi) wrote:
>>Pan wrote:
>>> Unfortunately, no such reservation system exists for the Duomo or
>>> Baptistery, I would think. I'm glad I saw their insides in 1991 and
>>> 1994. I may never see them again.
>>It is extremely simple to see the Duomo without queueing: you simply
>>attend a Mass (there is an entrance for worshippers on the right side).
>>Of course I give you this advice in the hope nobody will cheat, just to
>>remember that a Cathedral isn't a museum...
>I'd never attend a mass in order to visit a church. I'm not a
>Christian!
Why not? I'm not Catholic, but I'e attended services; I'm not Muslim,
but I've visited a mosque while a service was going on.
************ DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) ***********
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
******* My typos are intentional copyright traps ******
Sep 19th 2002 | 2:02 am
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On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 09:31:16 +0200, "Tim Challenger"
wrote:
>> > I'd never attend a mass in order to visit a church. I'm not a
>> > Christian!
>> You wouldn't be hurted either
>No, but you'd be stuck in the place for the duration of the service -
>whereas you can leave any time you want once you've queued up to get in. I
>suppose the total amount of time would be about the same.
Stand near the back or an exit and slip out when you desire.
************ DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) ***********
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
******* My typos are intentional copyright traps ******
wrote:
>> > I'd never attend a mass in order to visit a church. I'm not a
>> > Christian!
>> You wouldn't be hurted either
>No, but you'd be stuck in the place for the duration of the service -
>whereas you can leave any time you want once you've queued up to get in. I
>suppose the total amount of time would be about the same.
Stand near the back or an exit and slip out when you desire.
************ DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) ***********
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
******* My typos are intentional copyright traps ******
Sep 19th 2002 | 2:05 am
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Re: most overrated European destinations
In article , [email protected] (Luca
Logi) wrote:
> Pan wrote:
> > Unfortunately, no such reservation system exists for the Duomo or
> > Baptistery, I would think. I'm glad I saw their insides in 1991 and
> > 1994. I may never see them again.
> It is extremely simple to see the Duomo without queueing: you simply
> attend a Mass (there is an entrance for worshippers on the right side).
> Of course I give you this advice in the hope nobody will cheat, just to
> remember that a Cathedral isn't a museum...
LOL of course -- my husband has drug me to mass all over Europe and it is
an excellent way to see the churches --- and frankly the Duomo is not
worth waiting in line for -- given the many more interesting churches in
Florence -- e.g. Santa Maria del Carmine, St. Maria Novella, Santa Croce
etc etc etc
Logi) wrote:
> Pan wrote:
> > Unfortunately, no such reservation system exists for the Duomo or
> > Baptistery, I would think. I'm glad I saw their insides in 1991 and
> > 1994. I may never see them again.
> It is extremely simple to see the Duomo without queueing: you simply
> attend a Mass (there is an entrance for worshippers on the right side).
> Of course I give you this advice in the hope nobody will cheat, just to
> remember that a Cathedral isn't a museum...
LOL of course -- my husband has drug me to mass all over Europe and it is
an excellent way to see the churches --- and frankly the Duomo is not
worth waiting in line for -- given the many more interesting churches in
Florence -- e.g. Santa Maria del Carmine, St. Maria Novella, Santa Croce
etc etc etc
Sep 19th 2002 | 2:05 am
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Re: most overrated European destinations
In article , [email protected] (Pan)
wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 09:01:21 +0200, [email protected] (Luca Logi) wrote:
> >Pan wrote:
> >
> >
> >> >It is extremely simple to see the Duomo without queueing: you simply
> >> >attend a Mass (there is an entrance for worshippers on the right side).
> >> >Of course I give you this advice in the hope nobody will cheat, just to
> >> >remember that a Cathedral isn't a museum...
> >>
> >> I'd never attend a mass in order to visit a church. I'm not a
> >> Christian!
> >
> >
> >You wouldn't be hurted either
> You mean wounded? [LOL!]
except for the terminal boredom -- if there is anything more boring than a
Catholic sermon, it is a sermon in a language you don't fully understand
wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 09:01:21 +0200, [email protected] (Luca Logi) wrote:
> >Pan wrote:
> >
> >
> >> >It is extremely simple to see the Duomo without queueing: you simply
> >> >attend a Mass (there is an entrance for worshippers on the right side).
> >> >Of course I give you this advice in the hope nobody will cheat, just to
> >> >remember that a Cathedral isn't a museum...
> >>
> >> I'd never attend a mass in order to visit a church. I'm not a
> >> Christian!
> >
> >
> >You wouldn't be hurted either
> You mean wounded? [LOL!]
except for the terminal boredom -- if there is anything more boring than a
Catholic sermon, it is a sermon in a language you don't fully understand
Sep 19th 2002 | 2:07 am
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> >No, but you'd be stuck in the place for the duration of the service -
> >whereas you can leave any time you want once you've queued up to get in.
I
> >suppose the total amount of time would be about the same.
> Stand near the back or an exit and slip out when you desire.
It was meant as a joke.
Tim.
> >whereas you can leave any time you want once you've queued up to get in.
I
> >suppose the total amount of time would be about the same.
> Stand near the back or an exit and slip out when you desire.
It was meant as a joke.
Tim.
Sep 19th 2002 | 3:21 am
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> "Ryan B" wrote:
> >For me it's Carcassonne, France. I arrived in town in the early evening;
I
> >got to the bridge about a half mile away as the sun was setting and I
looked
> >up at the ancient walled town and thought it was magnificent. I got
inside
> >only to find it was a highly commercialized Disney type theme park. Just
> >one junk shop and ice cream stand after another.
> That's the result of so many people travelling to such places. We want
> to be fed, to have a drink, to find a place to sleep. Some among us
> want ice cream, or postcards to send home, or a piece of local craft
> work. So interesting destinations become commercialised. It's nobody's
> fault; it's just the way life works.
> PB
That's very true but when an interesting site becomes so overly
commercialized it can detract greatly from the things that made it
interesting in the first place. Those in charge need to guard against that
happening. I would have expected the junk shops to be located outside the
walls of the city and allow the inside to be true to it's past. It certainly
is impressive from 500 meters though.
Ryan
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> "Ryan B" wrote:
> >For me it's Carcassonne, France. I arrived in town in the early evening;
I
> >got to the bridge about a half mile away as the sun was setting and I
looked
> >up at the ancient walled town and thought it was magnificent. I got
inside
> >only to find it was a highly commercialized Disney type theme park. Just
> >one junk shop and ice cream stand after another.
> That's the result of so many people travelling to such places. We want
> to be fed, to have a drink, to find a place to sleep. Some among us
> want ice cream, or postcards to send home, or a piece of local craft
> work. So interesting destinations become commercialised. It's nobody's
> fault; it's just the way life works.
> PB
That's very true but when an interesting site becomes so overly
commercialized it can detract greatly from the things that made it
interesting in the first place. Those in charge need to guard against that
happening. I would have expected the junk shops to be located outside the
walls of the city and allow the inside to be true to it's past. It certainly
is impressive from 500 meters though.
Ryan
Sep 19th 2002 | 3:39 am
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"Tim Challenger" wrote:
>It was meant as a joke.
The problem with joking in this group is that your intent is likely to
be misunderstood.
PB
>It was meant as a joke.
The problem with joking in this group is that your intent is likely to
be misunderstood.
PB
Sep 19th 2002 | 4:10 am
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Padraig Breathnach wrote:
> "Tim Challenger" wrote:
>> It was meant as a joke.
> The problem with joking in this group is that your intent is likely to
> be misunderstood.
That's what makes it fun.
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> "Tim Challenger" wrote:
>> It was meant as a joke.
> The problem with joking in this group is that your intent is likely to
> be misunderstood.
That's what makes it fun.
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