French Toilet (INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE)
May 21st 2003, 6:31 pm
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Re: Public Toilets [was Re: French Toilet (INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE)]
"Marie Lewis" a écrit dans le message de news:
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> You live in the richest country in the world
> and you cannot afford to help the blind?
Which is more important: Helping every blind person in the United States,
or paying 1/3 the cost of a Patriot missile?
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> You live in the richest country in the world
> and you cannot afford to help the blind?
Which is more important: Helping every blind person in the United States,
or paying 1/3 the cost of a Patriot missile?
May 21st 2003, 6:33 pm
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Re: Public Toilets [was Re: French Toilet (INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE)]
"AJC" a écrit dans le message de news:
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> ... then a further couple of years when the notes
> can be exchanged at banks.
U.S. policy is to honor old banknotes as legal tender indefinitely.
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> ... then a further couple of years when the notes
> can be exchanged at banks.
U.S. policy is to honor old banknotes as legal tender indefinitely.
May 21st 2003, 6:34 pm
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Re: Public Toilets [was Re: French Toilet (INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE)]
On Wed, 21 May 2003 18:14:58 GMT, "Adrian Rothery"
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>> Hah, that's just what I always think when I go to the US. Nickle and
>> Dime, one is 5c and one is 10c but which is which :-)
>> --==++AJC++==--
>I wish I had half a bar every time I was confused by that one.
>Adrian
At least the nickel says "Five Cents" on it in very small print.
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>> Hah, that's just what I always think when I go to the US. Nickle and
>> Dime, one is 5c and one is 10c but which is which :-)
>> --==++AJC++==--
>I wish I had half a bar every time I was confused by that one.
>Adrian
At least the nickel says "Five Cents" on it in very small print.
May 21st 2003, 6:42 pm
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Re: Public Toilets [was Re: French Toilet (INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE)]
On Tue, 20 May 2003 16:52:08 +0200, "Mxsmanic"
wrote:
>"scott" a écrit dans le message de news:
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>> Fast food places do have braille menus aqnd
>> picture menus for Deaf people.
>How much do braille and picture menus cost, compared to ramps and elevators?
Not much, but at least they have them.
>> Some places do have devices to assist Blind or Deaf.
>Some places, not all. Whereas virtually every place accommodates
>wheelchairs, otherwise someone sues to force them to do so.
Every place does not accommodate wheelchairs, though they should.
>> LOL, playing dumb?
>Playing fair, you mean?
>> Because they're more noticeable?
>Does making more noise entitle a person to more privileges? Is that a valid
>basis for helping the disabled?
No, and that isn't what I said.
>> Most people are like you, knowing
>> only what they can see.
>Many people have an agenda, caring only about people personally important to
>their world-view, and ignoring the rest.
Only too true.
>> No, it's because their disability is more visible.
>A visible disability doesn't make it more worthy of accommodation than an
>invisible disability.
Of course not. However, it is the reason more attention is paid to
them.
>> People think all the Deaf need to do is lipread
>> or get a cochlear implant and they're fine.
>Most people have never heard of cochlear implants, and few give any thought
>to deaf people at all.
Exactly.
>> If the features are designed in, to start with ...
>But the features often are not designed in, since most of the world was
>already built when the concern for wheelchairs developed.
There's of new inaccessible buidings and streets and other
developments which are not accessible.
>> That is not true. Again, you are only going
>> by what you see.
>I cannot go by what I do not see, can I? That would require _fantasy_.
Or research.
>> I'm still waiting for your evidence.
>Evidence of what? I've provided the same evidence that you have. Why am I
>expected to accept yours, if you do not accept mine?
Where is the numbers showing who gets more help? Since you stated
that wheelchair-bound people get more help, I asked for your source.
Your source is your eyes, which are not enough.
>> If I was blind, I don't think I would like that
>> solution.
>That's why I suggest asking blind people themselves.
>> Very good, I can agree with that. But I don't think
>> Blind people would use wheelchairs to get attention.
>Most blind people don't have large-enough chips on their shoulders to
>attempt it, although I understand there are some very militant ones in
>certain national organizations.
>> I am definitely not in favor of only certain groups
>> getting all the benefits. However, in some case
>> Blind and Deaf get more than those in
>> wheelchairs do.
>Describe these cases, along with their relative incidence and costs.
some examples:
As a Deaf, wheelchair-bound prson myself, I've found it easy to get
Disability support for being Deaf than it was for being wheelchair
bound. I can aslo get free TTY equipment and in some states a free
computer for being Deaf. Also free flashing smoke alarms, and I can
get discounted phone service.
I've been unable to get anything to help with my condition which put
me in the chair. No ramps,no home modifications, no wheelchairs, no
driving equipment, no accessible housing help, zilch. I'm not
complaining about it, just stating the facts.
A Deaf person can drive or hop on a bus. A wheelchair bound person, in
some cases, can drive. In my, and many others, cases we have to wait
24 hours to get a paratransit ride somewhere.
The Deaf even have a partiallly government funded University fully
accessible for them. That same university is not completely
wheelchair accessible.
opposite examples:
And to get back on-topic, Deaf people are not pre-boarded on flights
like the wheelchair bound are. The Deaf are rarely, if ever told what
the captain said on the P.A., even in an emergency. If the fli ght is
diverted, they might not even know it until they got there.
So, in some cases, the Deaf do get more. Overall, though, I don't
think either one gets much more than the other, or even other
disabled groups.
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>"scott" a écrit dans le message de news:
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>> Fast food places do have braille menus aqnd
>> picture menus for Deaf people.
>How much do braille and picture menus cost, compared to ramps and elevators?
Not much, but at least they have them.
>> Some places do have devices to assist Blind or Deaf.
>Some places, not all. Whereas virtually every place accommodates
>wheelchairs, otherwise someone sues to force them to do so.
Every place does not accommodate wheelchairs, though they should.
>> LOL, playing dumb?
>Playing fair, you mean?
>> Because they're more noticeable?
>Does making more noise entitle a person to more privileges? Is that a valid
>basis for helping the disabled?
No, and that isn't what I said.
>> Most people are like you, knowing
>> only what they can see.
>Many people have an agenda, caring only about people personally important to
>their world-view, and ignoring the rest.
Only too true.
>> No, it's because their disability is more visible.
>A visible disability doesn't make it more worthy of accommodation than an
>invisible disability.
Of course not. However, it is the reason more attention is paid to
them.
>> People think all the Deaf need to do is lipread
>> or get a cochlear implant and they're fine.
>Most people have never heard of cochlear implants, and few give any thought
>to deaf people at all.
Exactly.
>> If the features are designed in, to start with ...
>But the features often are not designed in, since most of the world was
>already built when the concern for wheelchairs developed.
There's of new inaccessible buidings and streets and other
developments which are not accessible.
>> That is not true. Again, you are only going
>> by what you see.
>I cannot go by what I do not see, can I? That would require _fantasy_.
Or research.
>> I'm still waiting for your evidence.
>Evidence of what? I've provided the same evidence that you have. Why am I
>expected to accept yours, if you do not accept mine?
Where is the numbers showing who gets more help? Since you stated
that wheelchair-bound people get more help, I asked for your source.
Your source is your eyes, which are not enough.
>> If I was blind, I don't think I would like that
>> solution.
>That's why I suggest asking blind people themselves.
>> Very good, I can agree with that. But I don't think
>> Blind people would use wheelchairs to get attention.
>Most blind people don't have large-enough chips on their shoulders to
>attempt it, although I understand there are some very militant ones in
>certain national organizations.
>> I am definitely not in favor of only certain groups
>> getting all the benefits. However, in some case
>> Blind and Deaf get more than those in
>> wheelchairs do.
>Describe these cases, along with their relative incidence and costs.
some examples:
As a Deaf, wheelchair-bound prson myself, I've found it easy to get
Disability support for being Deaf than it was for being wheelchair
bound. I can aslo get free TTY equipment and in some states a free
computer for being Deaf. Also free flashing smoke alarms, and I can
get discounted phone service.
I've been unable to get anything to help with my condition which put
me in the chair. No ramps,no home modifications, no wheelchairs, no
driving equipment, no accessible housing help, zilch. I'm not
complaining about it, just stating the facts.
A Deaf person can drive or hop on a bus. A wheelchair bound person, in
some cases, can drive. In my, and many others, cases we have to wait
24 hours to get a paratransit ride somewhere.
The Deaf even have a partiallly government funded University fully
accessible for them. That same university is not completely
wheelchair accessible.
opposite examples:
And to get back on-topic, Deaf people are not pre-boarded on flights
like the wheelchair bound are. The Deaf are rarely, if ever told what
the captain said on the P.A., even in an emergency. If the fli ght is
diverted, they might not even know it until they got there.
So, in some cases, the Deaf do get more. Overall, though, I don't
think either one gets much more than the other, or even other
disabled groups.
May 21st 2003, 6:45 pm
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Re: Public Toilets [was Re: French Toilet (INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE)]
"Dick Locke" wrote in message
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> On Wed, 21 May 2003 18:14:58 GMT, "Adrian Rothery"
> wrote:
> >
> >"AJC" wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>
> >> Hah, that's just what I always think when I go to the US. Nickle and
> >> Dime, one is 5c and one is 10c but which is which :-)
> >>
> >> --==++AJC++==--
> >
> >I wish I had half a bar every time I was confused by that one.
> >
> >Adrian
> >
> At least the nickel says "Five Cents" on it in very small print.
Does the Five Cents say "nickel" on it?
Adrian
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> On Wed, 21 May 2003 18:14:58 GMT, "Adrian Rothery"
> wrote:
> >
> >"AJC" wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>
> >> Hah, that's just what I always think when I go to the US. Nickle and
> >> Dime, one is 5c and one is 10c but which is which :-)
> >>
> >> --==++AJC++==--
> >
> >I wish I had half a bar every time I was confused by that one.
> >
> >Adrian
> >
> At least the nickel says "Five Cents" on it in very small print.
Does the Five Cents say "nickel" on it?
Adrian
May 21st 2003, 7:11 pm
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Re: Public Toilets [was Re: French Toilet (INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE)]
On Wed, 21 May 2003 18:45:24 GMT, "Adrian Rothery"
wrote:
>Does the Five Cents say "nickel" on it?
>Adrian
Nope, that would be too useful. Hey, what's a "bar" in the context of
your previous message?
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>Does the Five Cents say "nickel" on it?
>Adrian
Nope, that would be too useful. Hey, what's a "bar" in the context of
your previous message?
May 21st 2003, 7:25 pm
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Re: Public Toilets [was Re: French Toilet (INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE)]
Mxsmanic wrote:
> "AJC" a écrit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]...
>
>
>>... then a further couple of years when the notes
>>can be exchanged at banks.
>
>
> U.S. policy is to honor old banknotes as legal tender indefinitely.
>
It's a policy that could be changed. After all if the policy can be
changed to abolish printing them, then it should be able to have a
policy to phase out the acceptance of old currency. Otherwise,
counterfeiters could simply continue to make the old currency.
> "AJC" a écrit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]...
>
>
>>... then a further couple of years when the notes
>>can be exchanged at banks.
>
>
> U.S. policy is to honor old banknotes as legal tender indefinitely.
>
It's a policy that could be changed. After all if the policy can be
changed to abolish printing them, then it should be able to have a
policy to phase out the acceptance of old currency. Otherwise,
counterfeiters could simply continue to make the old currency.
May 21st 2003, 7:48 pm
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Re: Public Toilets [was Re: French Toilet (INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE)]
"Dick Locke" wrote in message
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> On Wed, 21 May 2003 18:45:24 GMT, "Adrian Rothery"
> wrote:
> >Does the Five Cents say "nickel" on it?
> >Adrian
> Nope, that would be too useful. Hey, what's a "bar" in the context of
> your previous message?
A bar is a quid, so half a bar is ten bob.
Interestingly I've just discovered our Australian cousins call $500,000
'half a bar'.
Adrian
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> On Wed, 21 May 2003 18:45:24 GMT, "Adrian Rothery"
> wrote:
> >Does the Five Cents say "nickel" on it?
> >Adrian
> Nope, that would be too useful. Hey, what's a "bar" in the context of
> your previous message?
A bar is a quid, so half a bar is ten bob.
Interestingly I've just discovered our Australian cousins call $500,000
'half a bar'.
Adrian
May 21st 2003, 7:55 pm
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"Adrian Rothery" wrote in message
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> A bar is a quid, so half a bar is ten bob.
As a follow up, we used to call 2/6 half a dollar which means you would get
4 dollars to the bar. A bit different to today's exchange rate where you
only get 12 bob to the dollar.
Adrian.
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> A bar is a quid, so half a bar is ten bob.
As a follow up, we used to call 2/6 half a dollar which means you would get
4 dollars to the bar. A bit different to today's exchange rate where you
only get 12 bob to the dollar.
Adrian.
May 21st 2003, 8:14 pm
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"AJC" wrote in message
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> On Wed, 21 May 2003 16:52:59 GMT, Dick Locke
> wrote:
> >On Wed, 21 May 2003 10:11:28 +0200, AJC wrote:
> >
> >>That always seems so weird when visiting the US, all the notes the
> >>same size and colour
> >
> >
> >And I think we're just about the only country that doesn't put
> >western-style numbers on our coins. The Japanese 5-yen is the only
> >other one I've seen.
> >
> >Wotenheck is "One Dime?"
> Hah, that's just what I always think when I go to the US. Nickle and
> Dime, one is 5c and one is 10c but which is which :-)
> --==++AJC++==--
It's easy - the 5c is the bigger of the two coins...
Errrm...
Terry.
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> On Wed, 21 May 2003 16:52:59 GMT, Dick Locke
> wrote:
> >On Wed, 21 May 2003 10:11:28 +0200, AJC wrote:
> >
> >>That always seems so weird when visiting the US, all the notes the
> >>same size and colour
> >
> >
> >And I think we're just about the only country that doesn't put
> >western-style numbers on our coins. The Japanese 5-yen is the only
> >other one I've seen.
> >
> >Wotenheck is "One Dime?"
> Hah, that's just what I always think when I go to the US. Nickle and
> Dime, one is 5c and one is 10c but which is which :-)
> --==++AJC++==--
It's easy - the 5c is the bigger of the two coins...
Errrm...
Terry.
May 21st 2003, 9:17 pm
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Re: Public Toilets [was Re: French Toilet (INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE)]
In article , Mxsmanic
writes
>"Marie Lewis" a écrit dans le message de news:
>[email protected]...
>> You live in the richest country in the world
>> and you cannot afford to help the blind?
>Which is more important: Helping every blind person in the United States,
>or paying 1/3 the cost of a Patriot missile?
Indeed.
--
Marie Lewis
writes
>"Marie Lewis" a écrit dans le message de news:
>[email protected]...
>> You live in the richest country in the world
>> and you cannot afford to help the blind?
>Which is more important: Helping every blind person in the United States,
>or paying 1/3 the cost of a Patriot missile?
Indeed.
--
Marie Lewis
May 21st 2003, 9:44 pm
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Re: Public Toilets [was Re: French Toilet (INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE)]
AJC wrote:
> On Wed, 21 May 2003 16:52:59 GMT, Dick Locke
> wrote:
> >On Wed, 21 May 2003 10:11:28 +0200, AJC wrote:
> >
> >>That always seems so weird when visiting the US, all the notes the
> >>same size and colour
> >
> >
> >And I think we're just about the only country that doesn't put
> >western-style numbers on our coins. The Japanese 5-yen is the only
> >other one I've seen.
> >
> >Wotenheck is "One Dime?"
> Hah, that's just what I always think when I go to the US. Nickle and
> Dime, one is 5c and one is 10c but which is which :-)
Getting back to the DDR I just found some of those old *aluminum*
East German coins in a box in the back of the closet.....
--
Best
Greg "It's Clean Out The DDR Box Day!"
> On Wed, 21 May 2003 16:52:59 GMT, Dick Locke
> wrote:
> >On Wed, 21 May 2003 10:11:28 +0200, AJC wrote:
> >
> >>That always seems so weird when visiting the US, all the notes the
> >>same size and colour
> >
> >
> >And I think we're just about the only country that doesn't put
> >western-style numbers on our coins. The Japanese 5-yen is the only
> >other one I've seen.
> >
> >Wotenheck is "One Dime?"
> Hah, that's just what I always think when I go to the US. Nickle and
> Dime, one is 5c and one is 10c but which is which :-)
Getting back to the DDR I just found some of those old *aluminum*
East German coins in a box in the back of the closet.....
--
Best
Greg "It's Clean Out The DDR Box Day!"
May 21st 2003, 10:40 pm
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Re: Public Toilets [was Re: French Toilet (INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE)]
Marie Lewis wrote in message news:...
> In article , gatsby
> writes
> >That is the trouble with a British pound coin. I think of it in terms
> >of a US quarter and tend to overspend.
>
>
> That is *your* trouble with the pound. We can all cope fine.
Have you taken a special, IMO, unreasonable dislike to me? Or ditto
for all "Americans"? Or are you just a jealous "wish you lived here
in the USA" Brit?
I live in a Southern California always sunny seaside town. Hardly
ever rains. White sands. Blue water. Quite comfortable year round.
I love to visit London and have found most English to be polite, kind
and helpful. I hope I never meet your type.
Gary Nichols
> In article , gatsby
> writes
> >That is the trouble with a British pound coin. I think of it in terms
> >of a US quarter and tend to overspend.
>
>
> That is *your* trouble with the pound. We can all cope fine.
Have you taken a special, IMO, unreasonable dislike to me? Or ditto
for all "Americans"? Or are you just a jealous "wish you lived here
in the USA" Brit?
I live in a Southern California always sunny seaside town. Hardly
ever rains. White sands. Blue water. Quite comfortable year round.
I love to visit London and have found most English to be polite, kind
and helpful. I hope I never meet your type.
Gary Nichols
May 21st 2003, 10:49 pm
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Re: Public Toilets [was Re: French Toilet (INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE)]
"Adrian Rothery" wrote in message news:...
> "AJC" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >
> > Hah, that's just what I always think when I go to the US. Nickle and
> > Dime, one is 5c and one is 10c but which is which :-)
> >
> > --==++AJC++==--
>
> I wish I had half a bar every time I was confused by that one.
>
> Adrian
Are you from my favorite country England? If so what is a "pee" other
than urinating.
Gary Nichols
> "AJC" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >
> > Hah, that's just what I always think when I go to the US. Nickle and
> > Dime, one is 5c and one is 10c but which is which :-)
> >
> > --==++AJC++==--
>
> I wish I had half a bar every time I was confused by that one.
>
> Adrian
Are you from my favorite country England? If so what is a "pee" other
than urinating.
Gary Nichols
May 21st 2003, 10:54 pm
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Re: Public Toilets [was Re: French Toilet (INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE)]
On Wed, 21 May 2003 19:48:02 GMT, "Adrian Rothery"
wrote:
>A bar is a quid, so half a bar is ten bob.
Where the heck did you learn to speak English, anyway? ;-)
wrote:
>A bar is a quid, so half a bar is ten bob.
Where the heck did you learn to speak English, anyway? ;-)