Mxsmanic

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    > Anecdotal evidence: I have a young computer=
    > programmer relative in Raleigh who says that so
    > much programming has gone to India that
    > freelance pay is down 20-30%.

Freelance workers in IT (indeed, a great many people in IT) have been
overpaid for years.

Mrtravel

Mxsmanic wrote:
    > They aren't that bad off, since they are not spending billions a day on
    > military adventures while cutting taxes to the rich and deepening their
    > worldwide debt.

What percentage of Americans hold stock either directly or througb a
mutual fund? What percentage of Americans would be helped by a greater
influx of spending into capital markets? OK, so much for that. The tax
cut will have some affect in benefitting the average American. Not only
that, but what is really wrong with cutting the tax "rate" for people
that are in the higher brackets? Why can't we all pay the same rate?

Jim Ley

On Sat, 24 May 2003 20:33:22 +0200, "Mxsmanic"
wrote:

    >The Third World makes its own problems; the Third World must therefore take
    >responsibility for fixing them.

Certainly, where did I say otherwise, you seem confused, you were
arguing that 0% inflation rate was both desirable and achievable. I'm
saying it's simply not either of those, and illustrating reasons why
inflation will be a necessary result of improved standard of living in
the 3rd world, no matter how that comes about.

    >> Rubbish, India and China almost certainly have
    >> a larger number of highly qualified people than
    >> Belgium in almost profession.
    >But a lower percentage; in addition, they are
    >exceptions to the rule for the Third World.

What does the percentage matter, you were saying there were too few
highly skilled employees available for jobs to moved to those
countries, that is simply untrue in India and China's case, and I
don't believe it's true for the vast majority, many countries provide
good education for a large number of their populations even if the
rest are too poorly educated.

    >A pay cut would not affect price instability, since not all jobs are low in
    >required qualifications.

It wouldn't how would that work then exactly, the owners would simply
get richer and do nothing at all with that money - I simply fail to
see how that follows.

Jim.

Steve

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    > That always seems so weird when visiting the US, all the notes the
    > same size and colour! What also surprises me is that you still have $1
    > notes, it seems far too small a value not to be using coins, and
    > compared with other western countries you would probably start with $5
    > as the lowest denomination note. I remember during a short transfer at
    > a US airport trying to feed $1 notes in to a vending machine, just to
    > have them rejected. It wasn't just me, the woman at the next machine
    > couldn't get it to work either. It is in situations like that that $1
    > and $2 coins would be much more useful.

We do have $1 coins here in the states, but they have never become popular.
The only "vending machines" which use them are the vending machines for
stamps at the US Postal Office (and they do dispense $1 coins to make
change). Occasionally I will get a few $1 coins after using the vending
machines at the post office and when I go to use them merchants accept them,
but often frown upon them.

The only way for the $1 coin (which I think is a great idea) to become
successful would be to eliminate the $1 bill. Since coins last longer than
paper money, I would suspect it would save the US Govt some money (since the
lifetime of paper money, especially dollar bills is quite short, they must
be pulled from circulation and new ones printed to replace them on a regular
basis).

Speaking of currency, there are also $2 bills, but it's been a few years
since I've seen one. When I lived in Southeast Washington State in the mid
90s, it was quite common to come across $2 bills there, but in recent years,
I haven't seen any.

Best,

Steve

Miguel Cruz

Steve wrote:
    > We do have $1 coins here in the states, but they have never become popular.
    > The only "vending machines" which use them are the vending machines for
    > stamps at the US Postal Office

Also the New York City subway system.

miguel
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Mrtravel

Miguel Cruz wrote:
    > Steve wrote:
    >
    >>We do have $1 coins here in the states, but they have never become popular.
    >>The only "vending machines" which use them are the vending machines for
    >>stamps at the US Postal Office


BART and Santa Clara VTA use them.
I think I also remember the Cable Car ticket machine in SF using them too.

Hatunen

On Sat, 24 May 2003 11:55:51 +0200, "Mxsmanic"
wrote:

    >"Hatunen" a écrit dans le message de news:
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    >> The Colorado River.
    >Isn't it filtered and purified?
Apparently it would be prohibitively expensive for water mains
supply to get out the taste. For instance, I learned quickly long
ago not to order a glass of water with my meal in Blythe,
California.

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Simon Elliott

Mxsmanic writes
    >> Identical workers in different countries are
    >> not paid the same.
    >True, but only because First-World workers are paid too much for work that
    >is almost worthless. The Third-World workers are paid what the work is
    >actually worth, since they have no unions.

Incorrect.

For example, I used to work in the oil exploration industry. The
companies I worked for (SSL and Schlumberger) paid people of equivalent
skills and value differently depending on their country of origin. Pay
rates were based on the going rate for those skills in the country of
origin.

So for example someone from the USA would be paid more than someone with
equivalent skills from the UK.

We had people from places like Libya, Iraq and Iran who had equivalent
skills to the US and UK personnel. Many of these were actually more
valuable than the US and UK personnel, as they had more languages and
more experience of the cultures of the countries we operated in. But
typically they would be paid about 10% to 20% of the amount that UK
personnel would be paid.

So on a typical crew in Libya, Oman, Nigeria or wherever, we would have
maybe three senior seismologists, one from Germany, one from the UK and
one from Egypt, each with the same skills, each doing the same sort of
work, but on very different pay rates.
--
Simon Elliott
http://www.ctsn.co.uk/

p557

On Mon, 26 May 2003 11:54:49 +0100, Simon Elliott
wrote:

    >Mxsmanic writes
    >>> Identical workers in different countries are
    >>> not paid the same.
    >>True, but only because First-World workers are paid too much for work that
    >>is almost worthless. The Third-World workers are paid what the work is
    >>actually worth, since they have no unions.
    >Incorrect.
    >For example, I used to work in the oil exploration industry. The
    >companies I worked for (SSL and Schlumberger) paid people of equivalent
    >skills and value differently depending on their country of origin. Pay
    >rates were based on the going rate for those skills in the country of
    >origin.


I used to be in the Merchant Navy. Indian crews were always paid less
than their UK counterparts not because their work was less valuable
but because of the uproar it caused in their home country when they,
as relatively unskilled workers, returned home having been paid much
more than professionals in their own country.