Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
    >
    > This has nothing to do with travel in Europe. Please
    > go away.

Actually, it has more to do with travel in europe than it does with
opera or pet cats (where you will find similar off-topic threads). If
you live in today's world, it's a difficult subject to ignore - at least
this thread has (so far) been good-humoured.

Jean Moulin wrote:
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > yes, designed by a right wing french militarist who also redesigned
    > paris... to make it easy for the emperor's troops.

Well.... up until NOW this thread had remained good humoured! (It only
takes one to spoil things.)

    >
    > [email protected] wrote:
    > > In article ,
    > > [email protected] (me) wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >>[email protected] (peggytex) wrote in message
    > >>news:...
    > >>
    > >>>this would be hysterically, laugh-out-loud, SNL-funny ... if it
    > >>>weren't so humiliating.
    > >>>"French Fries Get New Name in Congress
    > >>> (AP) - Show the flag and pass the ketchup was the order of
    > >>> the day in House cafeterias Tuesday. Lawmakers struck a
    > >>> lunchtime blow against the French and put "freedom fries"
    > >>> the menu. And for breakfast they'll now have "freedom toast."
    > >>> The name changes follow similar actions by restaurants
    > >>> around the country protesting French opposition to the
    > >>> administration's Iraq war plans. More... "
    > >>
    > >> It is down right childish and wouldn't be tolerated in an
    > >>elemetary school.
    > >
    > >
    > > Washington DC was designed by a Frenchman. Will they relocate?
    >
    > --
    > "But to live outside the law, you must be honest"
    > Bob Dylan - Absolutely Sweet Marie - 1966

Magda wrote:
    >
    > On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 17:38:51 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "devil"
    > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    >
    > ... On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:30:13 +0100, Earl Evleth wrote:
    > ...
    > ... > in article [email protected], [email protected] at
    > ... > [email protected] wrote on 12/03/03 17:31:
    > ... >
    > ... >> Washington DC was designed by a Frenchman. Will they relocate?
    > ... >
    > ... >
    > ... > And the problem of the Statue of Liberty, a gift of the French people.
    > ...
    > ...
    > ... Wouldn't take all that much explosive to deal with that.
    > ...
    > ... :-)
    >
    > Would they get rid of the Liberty symbol ?
    > Oh, the irony... LOL

Might as well - they seem to be doing quite a number on the actual
commodity!

Magda wrote:
    >
    > On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:04:22 -0600, in rec.travel.europe, Jenn arranged
    > some electrons, so they looked like this :
    >
    > ...
    > ... Russian salad would not be recognized in the US --= and macedonia is a
    > ... fruit compote not a veg thing
    >
    > We have both here, but the fruit one is always called "salade de fruits", except on the
    > label. If you ask for a macédoine in a restaurant you'll get veg & mayo.

You've jogged my memory again - you're talking about cooked vegetables,
right? A Hungarian friend once gave me a recipe for what she called
"Russian' salad - diced cooked veggies (may include diced meat or
chicken, too) in a mayonnaise-type dressing.

Peter L wrote:
    >
    > "The Reids" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Following up to peggytex
    > >
    > > >The name changes follow similar actions by
    > > >restaurants around the country protesting French opposition
    > > >to the administration's Iraq war plans. More... "
    > >
    > > Please someone, tell me this is made up. Did anyone rename Russian
    > > salad during the cold war?
    >
    > They did rename the wiener into hot dog.


Yeah, but since by then most people called the "weenies", the connection
was vague to them, at best.
    >
    > > --
    > > Mike Reid
    > > Land of roast meat "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk/castile.htm"
    > > (see web to email)

peggytex wrote:
    >
    > [email protected] (Jesper Lauridsen) wrote in message news:...
    > > This has nothing to do with travel in Europe. Please
    > > go away.
    >
    > uh...your post has nothing to do with this thread...please stay on
    > topic, or go away yourself--thanks :-)


Touche, Peggy!

"Jesper Lauridsen" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > This has nothing to do with travel in Europe. Please
    > go away.

You just woke up Jesper ?
Tim.
.

    >> >We don't seem to have progressed beyond the level of World War I, when dogs'
    >> > names were changed. "German shepherds" became "police dogs" and
    >> > "dachshunds" became "liberty pups".


In the UK, dachshunds remained dachshunds and, in fact, German shepherd
dogs used to be known as Alsatians and then moved on to German Shepherd
dogs.
--
Marie Lewis

My husband was recently flying back from the US and they were served croissants for breakfast on the plane. The US (business class) customers immediately started discussing whether or not the croissants should be on the menu and whether to eat them!

Since they were flying out of the US, I wouldn't have thought that the croissants had actually been anywhere near France and were probably made by an American company with American flour, butter, etc. So boycotting this 'french' product would actually hurt an American company...

I think it is funny, but then I'm not American...

BTW they are 'crisps' and our 'chips' are larger and healthier than fries.

le Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:43:38 GMT, dans l'article , ellie a dit ...

{ snip }

    > Of course then there's what's labelled "French Dressing" which I've
    > never seen in France.

I'm sure you mean 'Freedom Dressing' ...

*snigger*

--
Desmond Coughlan
desmond @ zeouane.org
http: // www . zeouane . org

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
    >
    > R J Carpenter wrote:
    >
    >>[ Seriously, I don't think we commonly called anything "Russian salad". ]
    >
    >
    > Yeah, I don't remember "Russian Salad" per se, but there certainly was
    > something around during the fifties and sixties callled "Russian
    > Dressing" - a bright red, rather sweet tomato-y concoction.


Russian Dressing still exists and is apparently popular. I see lots of
bottles of the stuff in the supermarket (in the US, I mean). It's not
red, though; it's sort of salmon colored. I think it's something like a
mixture of mayonnaise and ketchup. Think of Thousand Island dressing
without the pickles.

Of course then there's what's labelled "French Dressing" which I've
never seen in France. But just to keep things balanced, French
supermarkets offer cans of stuff called "Sauce Americaine" and I've
never seen anything like it in the US.

"Desmond Coughlan" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > le Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:43:38 GMT, dans l'article
, ellie a
dit ...
    > { snip }
    > > Of course then there's what's labelled "French Dressing" which I've
    > > never seen in France.
    > I'm sure you mean 'Freedom Dressing' ...

Not likely. The product is enough insult in itself.

"Emm" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > My husband was recently flying back from the US and they were served
    > croissants for breakfast on the plane. The US (business class) customers
    > immediately started discussing whether or not the croissants should be
    > on the menu and whether to eat them!
    > Since they were flying out of the US, I wouldn't have thought that the
    > croissants had actually been anywhere near France and were probably made
    > by an American company with American flour, butter, etc. So boycotting
    > this 'french' product would actually hurt an American company...

And the croissant was perportedly brought to France from Austria.
So at the risk of stretching a point you could say they're not even French.
Tim.

In article ,
Emm wrote:

    > My husband was recently flying back from the US and they were served
    > croissants for breakfast on the plane. The US (business class) customers
    > immediately started discussing whether or not the croissants should be
    > on the menu and whether to eat them!
    >
    > Since they were flying out of the US, I wouldn't have thought that the
    > croissants had actually been anywhere near France and were probably made
    > by an American company with American flour, butter, etc. So boycotting
    > this 'french' product would actually hurt an American company...
    >
    > I think it is funny, but then I'm not American...
    >
    > BTW they are 'crisps' and our 'chips' are larger and healthier
    > than fries.
    >
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com



oh yeah healthier LOL --

In article ,
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:

    > Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
    > >
    > > [email protected] (peggytex) wrote in
    > > news:[email protected]:
    > >
    > > > Lawmakers struck a lunchtime blow against the French and put
    > > > "freedom fries" the menu.
    > >
    > > This would've been a perfect time to call them "chips", as "french fries"
    > > have nothing to do with France in the first place, but no ...
    >
    > Are you sure? The restaurants I've visited in France and Belgium call
    > them "frites", but they're pretty commonly served with meals, there.

'frenching' as in french fries refers to the cut of the potato -- they
were invented in Belgium supposedly -- Certainly the Belgians do them
very well