On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:00:51 GMT, R J Carpenter wrote

-snip-

    > And also seriously, we can't rename anything as "chips", since we
    > already have a potato product called that - what you UK folks call
    > "crips" IIRC.


We certainly do *not* call them "crips"........give us credit for
*some* politically-correct sensitivity, willya'......

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Following up to Donna Evleth

    >We don't seem to have progressed beyond the level of World War I, when dogs'
    >names were changed. "German shepherds" became "police dogs" and
    >"dachshunds" became "liberty pups".

not to mention our Royal family, the "Windsors" nee Saxe-Coburg-Gotha
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In article ,
"Donna Evleth" wrote:

    >
    > Dans l'article ,
    > [email protected] (peggytex) a écrit :
    >
    >
    > > this would be hysterically, laugh-out-loud, SNL-funny ... if it
    > > weren't so humiliating.
    > > " French Fries Get New Name in Congress
    > > (AP) - Show the flag and pass the ketchup was
    > > the order of
    > > the day in House cafeterias Tuesday. Lawmakers
    > > struck a
    > > lunchtime blow against the French and put
    > > "freedom fries" the menu. And for breakfast
    > > they'll now have "freedom toast."
    > > The name changes follow similar actions by
    > > restaurants
    > > around the country protesting French opposition
    > > to the
    > > administration's Iraq war plans. More... "
    >
    > We don't seem to have progressed beyond the level of World War I, when dogs'
    > names were changed. "German shepherds" became "police dogs" and
    > "dachshunds" became "liberty pups".
    >
    > Donna Evleth

no kidding -- I am particularly ashamed to be associated with a
political system in which legislators fail to step up to their
responsibility to hold the president accountable on either domestic or
foreign policy but who actually spend time on this junior high school
level exercise in foolishness and trivia

what an embarrassment

In article ,
[email protected] (me) wrote:

    > [email protected] (peggytex) wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > this would be hysterically, laugh-out-loud, SNL-funny ... if it
    > > weren't so humiliating.
    > > "French Fries Get New Name in Congress
    > > (AP) - Show the flag and pass the ketchup was the order of
    > > the day in House cafeterias Tuesday. Lawmakers struck a
    > > lunchtime blow against the French and put "freedom fries"
    > > the menu. And for breakfast they'll now have "freedom toast."
    > > The name changes follow similar actions by restaurants
    > > around the country protesting French opposition to the
    > > administration's Iraq war plans. More... "
    >
    > It is down right childish and wouldn't be tolerated in an
    > elemetary school.

actually that is where it fits right in

Following up to Harvey V

    >We certainly do *not* call them "crips"........give us credit for
    >*some* politically-correct sensitivity, willya'......


that would be a "raspberry" in London :-)
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Following up to Krist

    > It is down right childish and wouldn't be tolerated in an
    >> elemetary school.
    >This isn't an elementary school. This is the US Congress...

nobody in UK would believe this until BBC ran it.
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Dans l'article ,
[email protected] (peggytex) a écrit :


    > this would be hysterically, laugh-out-loud, SNL-funny ... if it
    > weren't so humiliating.
    > " French Fries Get New Name in Congress
    > (AP) - Show the flag and pass the ketchup was
    > the order of
    > the day in House cafeterias Tuesday. Lawmakers
    > struck a
    > lunchtime blow against the French and put
    > "freedom fries" the menu. And for breakfast
    > they'll now have "freedom toast."
    > The name changes follow similar actions by
    > restaurants
    > around the country protesting French opposition
    > to the
    > administration's Iraq war plans. More... "

We don't seem to have progressed beyond the level of World War I, when dogs'
names were changed. "German shepherds" became "police dogs" and
"dachshunds" became "liberty pups".

Donna Evleth

Dans l'article , The Reids
a écrit :


    >>Real "crimson napes" don't eat no salad, nohow. They go to places with a
    >>big sign out front "EATS", not a sissy "restaurant" ... oops, French word.
    >>[ Seriously, I don't think we commonly called anything "Russian salad". ]
    > Its mayonnaise with cubes of veg in it (with variations) very popular
    > in Spain. I understand it has no connection with Russia.

It is very popular here in France, too, and here we call it "Macedoine". My
Petit Robert dictionary tells me that the name came from a joking comparison
with Alexander's Empire, Macedonia, inhabited by people of very diverse
origins.
    > As UK government is flavour of the month, US should call them English
    > fries.

That would be too confusing. Fries in Britain are called chips, which is of
course what Americans - and the French - call another potato product. The
one the British call crisps.

Donna Evleth

"Harvey V" wrote in message
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    > On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:00:51 GMT, R J Carpenter wrote
    > -snip-
    > > And also seriously, we can't rename anything as "chips", since we
    > > already have a potato product called that - what you UK folks call
    > > "crips" IIRC.
    > We certainly do *not* call them "crips"........give us credit for
    > *some* politically-correct sensitivity, willya'......

Pardon, I let my fingers do the stumbling.

Anyhow, I'm not up to date on insults so don't know what the offending word
means.

    > > We certainly do *not* call them "crips"........give us credit for
    > > *some* politically-correct sensitivity, willya'......

Well, actually, they're quite commonly called "crips" in the UK. I hear it
very often.
In the same way that you can often hear people say "flutterby" instead of
"butterfly".
Tim.

On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:37:10 GMT, R J Carpenter wrote

    >
    > "Harvey V" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:00:51 GMT, R J Carpenter wrote
    >>
    >> -snip-
    >>
    >>> And also seriously, we can't rename anything as "chips", since
    >>> we already have a potato product called that - what you UK folks
    >>> call "crips" IIRC.
    >>
    >> We certainly do *not* call them "crips"........give us credit for
    >> *some* politically-correct sensitivity, willya'......
    >
    > Pardon, I let my fingers do the stumbling.
    >
    > Anyhow, I'm not up to date on insults so don't know what the
    > offending word means.

It's not up-to-date, actually: it's an old -- and offensive -- term
for crippled people.

(I was just having fun with the typo; was the word perhaps not used in
the US?)

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On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:41:11 GMT, Tim wrote

    >>> We certainly do *not* call them "crips"........give us credit
    >>> for *some* politically-correct sensitivity, willya'......
    >
    > Well, actually, they're quite commonly called "crips" in the UK. I
    > hear it very often.
    > In the same way that you can often hear people say "flutterby"
    > instead of "butterfly".

True -- but "flutterby" doesn't inadvertantly produce an offensive
term......

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    > >>> We certainly do *not* call them "crips"........give us credit
    > >>> for *some* politically-correct sensitivity, willya'......
    > >
    > > Well, actually, they're quite commonly called "crips" in the UK. I
    > > hear it very often.
    > > In the same way that you can often hear people say "flutterby"
    > > instead of "butterfly".
    > True -- but "flutterby" doesn't inadvertantly produce an offensive
    > term......

maybe it does - how would you know.
Anyway I've never been aware of "crips" being used as on offensive term.
And even if it were, there's also context to think about. We were talking
about a product made from spuds. Or is that offensive too?

Following up to R J Carpenter

    >Anyhow, I'm not up to date on insults so don't know what the offending word
    >means.

I'm afraid (no offence intended to those differently/dis-abled,
reading) crip is cripple as is "raspberry ripple" in rhyming slang.

To your credit you didn't know what was being talked about, we
probably shouldnt have gone there, except its good to know about
offensive words in case used unconsciously in error.
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Land of roast meat "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk/castile.htm"
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In article ,
[email protected] (me) wrote:

    > [email protected] (peggytex) wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > this would be hysterically, laugh-out-loud, SNL-funny ... if it
    > > weren't so humiliating.
    > > "French Fries Get New Name in Congress
    > > (AP) - Show the flag and pass the ketchup was the order of
    > > the day in House cafeterias Tuesday. Lawmakers struck a
    > > lunchtime blow against the French and put "freedom fries"
    > > the menu. And for breakfast they'll now have "freedom toast."
    > > The name changes follow similar actions by restaurants
    > > around the country protesting French opposition to the
    > > administration's Iraq war plans. More... "
    >
    > It is down right childish and wouldn't be tolerated in an
    > elemetary school.

Washington DC was designed by a Frenchman. Will they relocate?