European food cultures
Apr 5th 2005 | 8:48 am
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I have no complain about food in Spain, actually I agree with you on
good food in Spain in general, with the exception of paella. As for
Bahian food, I am still looking for aracaje in the US. But in my
experience aracaje in Rio doesn't even taste quite like the ones I had
in Salvador, Bahia.
good food in Spain in general, with the exception of paella. As for
Bahian food, I am still looking for aracaje in the US. But in my
experience aracaje in Rio doesn't even taste quite like the ones I had
in Salvador, Bahia.
Apr 5th 2005 | 9:52 am
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:39 +0100, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>We went to the Trafalgar, and it was reasonable. Not photoworthy, but
>>not too bad. I had the fish (not cod, but something else), and it was
>>drowned in some mysterious (but tasty) sauce with green flecs in it,
>So whats wrong with that? Are you saying they dont do sauces in
>France?
Erm... I live in Italy. Similar, but different.
>>and it had not been filleted properly. The chips on the side were
>>ridiculously big and undercooked for my liking.
>Big chips are in fashion at the moment and it reduces the fat to
>food ratio.
They need to be cooked at a high temperature to reduce the fat
absorbtion and increase the crispiness. For the best chips, look no
further that Belgium. Somehow they get them just right.
>>The beer was excellent though.
>Glad youre one of the few foreigners able to apppreciate good
>beer.
Somehow I learnt the art of enjoying what the rest of the world laughs
at. Only in England.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>We went to the Trafalgar, and it was reasonable. Not photoworthy, but
>>not too bad. I had the fish (not cod, but something else), and it was
>>drowned in some mysterious (but tasty) sauce with green flecs in it,
>So whats wrong with that? Are you saying they dont do sauces in
>France?
Erm... I live in Italy. Similar, but different.
>>and it had not been filleted properly. The chips on the side were
>>ridiculously big and undercooked for my liking.
>Big chips are in fashion at the moment and it reduces the fat to
>food ratio.
They need to be cooked at a high temperature to reduce the fat
absorbtion and increase the crispiness. For the best chips, look no
further that Belgium. Somehow they get them just right.
>>The beer was excellent though.
>Glad youre one of the few foreigners able to apppreciate good
>beer.
Somehow I learnt the art of enjoying what the rest of the world laughs
at. Only in England.
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Apr 5th 2005 | 9:56 am
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:40 +0100, The Reids
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>Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>Doesn't alter the fact that the produce they use is usually shite.
>That's rubbish. There is nothing wrong with British produce,
>enough gets exported to France and Spain, its preparation where
>it might fall down.
How can the British afford to export any primary produce with the
value of the pound?
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>Doesn't alter the fact that the produce they use is usually shite.
>That's rubbish. There is nothing wrong with British produce,
>enough gets exported to France and Spain, its preparation where
>it might fall down.
How can the British afford to export any primary produce with the
value of the pound?
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Apr 5th 2005 | 10:01 am
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:56:52 GMT, Deep Foiled Malls
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:40 +0100, The Reids
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>>Doesn't alter the fact that the produce they use is usually shite.
>>That's rubbish. There is nothing wrong with British produce,
>>enough gets exported to France and Spain, its preparation where
>>it might fall down.
>How can the British afford to export any primary produce with the
>value of the pound?
There's little sign of imported British food in the Netherlands.
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:40 +0100, The Reids
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>>Doesn't alter the fact that the produce they use is usually shite.
>>That's rubbish. There is nothing wrong with British produce,
>>enough gets exported to France and Spain, its preparation where
>>it might fall down.
>How can the British afford to export any primary produce with the
>value of the pound?
There's little sign of imported British food in the Netherlands.
Apr 5th 2005 | 10:36 am
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The Reids wrote:
>
> Following up to Icono Clast
>
> >No, it doesn't. Improper eating leads to obese people. I frequent
> >buffets and eat enormous quantities.
>
> for most people eating enormous quantities will lead to obesity,
> its simple, calories in v calories out. What is "improper
> eating"?
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> Mike Reid
To put it mathematically:
calories in >> calories out = improper eating
>
> Following up to Icono Clast
>
> >No, it doesn't. Improper eating leads to obese people. I frequent
> >buffets and eat enormous quantities.
>
> for most people eating enormous quantities will lead to obesity,
> its simple, calories in v calories out. What is "improper
> eating"?
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> Mike Reid
To put it mathematically:
calories in >> calories out = improper eating
Apr 5th 2005 | 6:23 pm
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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 00:01:42 +0200, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:56:52 GMT, Deep Foiled Malls
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:40 +0100, The Reids
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>>>Doesn't alter the fact that the produce they use is usually shite.
>>>That's rubbish. There is nothing wrong with British produce,
>>>enough gets exported to France and Spain, its preparation where
>>>it might fall down.
>>How can the British afford to export any primary produce with the
>>value of the pound?
>There's little sign of imported British food in the Netherlands.
I have never seen a "Made in Britain" label in Italy, in fact the
notion is laughable.
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>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:56:52 GMT, Deep Foiled Malls
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:40 +0100, The Reids
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>>>Doesn't alter the fact that the produce they use is usually shite.
>>>That's rubbish. There is nothing wrong with British produce,
>>>enough gets exported to France and Spain, its preparation where
>>>it might fall down.
>>How can the British afford to export any primary produce with the
>>value of the pound?
>There's little sign of imported British food in the Netherlands.
I have never seen a "Made in Britain" label in Italy, in fact the
notion is laughable.
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Apr 5th 2005 | 7:11 pm
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"The Reids" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
You are joking?! Chip butties are gorgeous! I always make sure I have some
bread whenever having chips :-)
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> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
You are joking?! Chip butties are gorgeous! I always make sure I have some
bread whenever having chips :-)
Apr 5th 2005 | 7:17 pm
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"yaofeng" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Straying a bit from the content but staying with the subject matter
> nonetheless, I was thinking about food in different countries the other
> day. One thing which strikes me is the unusually large number of "all
> you can eat" restaurants in the US. Within a 20 mile radius of where I
> live, I think I can easily find 20 all you can eat places. This is
> something I didn't find in the UK, France, Spain, etc... (I didn't find
> a single all you can eat places in aformentioned countries as a matter
> of fact.)
Where I live in Newcastle I can think of at least two within walking
distance, a Chineese and an Indian. However they certainly aren't the most
prevalent type, I can think of dozens of 'standard' resaurants.
I've also visited the Spaghetti Factory in Edinburgh, The Big Wok in
Birmingham, and Red Hot Shack, in Nottingham. Based on that I'd say you'd
find at least one all you can eat in most cities in the UK.
I like the idea of them myself but I'm put off going to them as the price is
quite high and therefore you feel you have to eat until you are absolutely
bursting to justify it! So I always leave feeling quite ill really. Which
isn't the best way to remember your night out!
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> Straying a bit from the content but staying with the subject matter
> nonetheless, I was thinking about food in different countries the other
> day. One thing which strikes me is the unusually large number of "all
> you can eat" restaurants in the US. Within a 20 mile radius of where I
> live, I think I can easily find 20 all you can eat places. This is
> something I didn't find in the UK, France, Spain, etc... (I didn't find
> a single all you can eat places in aformentioned countries as a matter
> of fact.)
Where I live in Newcastle I can think of at least two within walking
distance, a Chineese and an Indian. However they certainly aren't the most
prevalent type, I can think of dozens of 'standard' resaurants.
I've also visited the Spaghetti Factory in Edinburgh, The Big Wok in
Birmingham, and Red Hot Shack, in Nottingham. Based on that I'd say you'd
find at least one all you can eat in most cities in the UK.
I like the idea of them myself but I'm put off going to them as the price is
quite high and therefore you feel you have to eat until you are absolutely
bursting to justify it! So I always leave feeling quite ill really. Which
isn't the best way to remember your night out!
Apr 5th 2005 | 7:19 pm
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"Mark Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "The Reids" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
> You are joking?! Chip butties are gorgeous! I always make sure I have some
> bread whenever having chips :-)
So does my better half. I think he is incapable of eating chips without
bread:)
>
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> "The Reids" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
> You are joking?! Chip butties are gorgeous! I always make sure I have some
> bread whenever having chips :-)
So does my better half. I think he is incapable of eating chips without
bread:)
>
Apr 5th 2005 | 10:13 pm
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Following up to Tim Challenger
>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
>eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
nothings better than a fry up in a sandwich!
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>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
>eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
nothings better than a fry up in a sandwich!
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Apr 5th 2005 | 10:13 pm
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Following up to [email protected]
>but not a patch on Mike's favourite Whitstable oyster and ketchup
>butties.
I prefer my oysters lightly cooked, maybe with some chilli sauce,
for a sandwich i'm rather partial to creme cheese and anchovy,
egg, mayo and chives or tuna, FGBP and mayo.
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>but not a patch on Mike's favourite Whitstable oyster and ketchup
>butties.
I prefer my oysters lightly cooked, maybe with some chilli sauce,
for a sandwich i'm rather partial to creme cheese and anchovy,
egg, mayo and chives or tuna, FGBP and mayo.
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Apr 5th 2005 | 10:13 pm
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Following up to yaofeng
>There is only one word to describe the paella in Spain, atrocious.
In a tourist restaurant away from the part of Spain it belongs,
sometimes less than perfect. A Spanish restaurateur said the
same. But I have rarely had *any* "atrocious" food in Spain.
My most enjoyable arroz was in a little locals bar in the paddy
fields of the Ebro delta, a simple abanda. If they cant cook
rice, who can? Outside Spain people often stir the rice, making
it more like Rissotto.
In my experience "foreign" restaurants (include parts of Spain in
that) only do a paella de mariscos, does this NY place do other
types?
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>There is only one word to describe the paella in Spain, atrocious.
In a tourist restaurant away from the part of Spain it belongs,
sometimes less than perfect. A Spanish restaurateur said the
same. But I have rarely had *any* "atrocious" food in Spain.
My most enjoyable arroz was in a little locals bar in the paddy
fields of the Ebro delta, a simple abanda. If they cant cook
rice, who can? Outside Spain people often stir the rice, making
it more like Rissotto.
In my experience "foreign" restaurants (include parts of Spain in
that) only do a paella de mariscos, does this NY place do other
types?
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Mike Reid
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Apr 5th 2005 | 10:13 pm
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Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>So whats wrong with that? Are you saying they dont do sauces in
>>France?
>Erm... I live in Italy. Similar, but different.
Sorry, misremembered, but France is rated quite well for food.
>They need to be cooked at a high temperature to reduce the fat
>absorbtion and increase the crispiness. For the best chips, look no
>further that Belgium. Somehow they get them just right.
lots of practice.
>>>The beer was excellent though.
>>Glad youre one of the few foreigners able to apppreciate good
>>beer.
>Somehow I learnt the art of enjoying what the rest of the world laughs
>at. Only in England.
Why the rest of the world thinks fizzy, freezing sweet lager is
good, I cannot understand, except that the beer matches a cool
climate and lager a hot one, maybe).
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>>So whats wrong with that? Are you saying they dont do sauces in
>>France?
>Erm... I live in Italy. Similar, but different.
Sorry, misremembered, but France is rated quite well for food.
>They need to be cooked at a high temperature to reduce the fat
>absorbtion and increase the crispiness. For the best chips, look no
>further that Belgium. Somehow they get them just right.
lots of practice.
>>>The beer was excellent though.
>>Glad youre one of the few foreigners able to apppreciate good
>>beer.
>Somehow I learnt the art of enjoying what the rest of the world laughs
>at. Only in England.
Why the rest of the world thinks fizzy, freezing sweet lager is
good, I cannot understand, except that the beer matches a cool
climate and lager a hot one, maybe).
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Apr 5th 2005 | 10:13 pm
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Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>That's rubbish. There is nothing wrong with British produce,
>>enough gets exported to France and Spain, its preparation where
>>it might fall down.
>How can the British afford to export any primary produce with the
>value of the pound?
because the French and spanish think the seafood is worth paying
for? You see Spanish lorries loading at the keyside in the
Hebrides, given the prices in Spain, how does it work for them?
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>>That's rubbish. There is nothing wrong with British produce,
>>enough gets exported to France and Spain, its preparation where
>>it might fall down.
>How can the British afford to export any primary produce with the
>value of the pound?
because the French and spanish think the seafood is worth paying
for? You see Spanish lorries loading at the keyside in the
Hebrides, given the prices in Spain, how does it work for them?
--
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Apr 5th 2005 | 10:13 pm
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Following up to Icono Clast
>> I think London is one of the better European cities for
>> restaurants if you have at least a moderate budget and really know
>> where to go...
>It is extremely difficult for tourists to "really know where to go".
Do what I do, as a local, read guides to supplement local
knowledge.
>One night in Italy we decided it was time to eat and entered the
>corner restaurant to be given the last two available seats at a table
>in company with a couple of Italians and French. They told us it was
>the best restaurant in town (I think it was Firenze).
>We certainly did have a good meal, the cost was modest and, on
>departure, there was a mob outside seeking to gain entry.
I don't think anyone is claiming the average restro in Italy
isn't better than the average in UK. Italy is possibly world
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>> I think London is one of the better European cities for
>> restaurants if you have at least a moderate budget and really know
>> where to go...
>It is extremely difficult for tourists to "really know where to go".
Do what I do, as a local, read guides to supplement local
knowledge.
>One night in Italy we decided it was time to eat and entered the
>corner restaurant to be given the last two available seats at a table
>in company with a couple of Italians and French. They told us it was
>the best restaurant in town (I think it was Firenze).
>We certainly did have a good meal, the cost was modest and, on
>departure, there was a mob outside seeking to gain entry.
I don't think anyone is claiming the average restro in Italy
isn't better than the average in UK. Italy is possibly world
best.
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