European food cultures
#61
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Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>Doesn't alter the fact that the produce they use is usually shite.
That's rubbish. There is nothing wrong with British produce,
enough gets exported to France and Spain, its preparation where
it might fall down.
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>Doesn't alter the fact that the produce they use is usually shite.
That's rubbish. There is nothing wrong with British produce,
enough gets exported to France and Spain, its preparation where
it might fall down.
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Mike Reid
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Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
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The Reids <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn
>
> >> That looks like a lot of our markets here. Like our local favorite, the
> >> Marché Saint Germain.
> >
> >Sshh! Don't tell any of the 'UK has crap produce' brigade!
>
> I think the correct advice for UK is the foods fine but avoid
> bottom end US style fast food chains and street food, I cant
> think of any street food here I would want to eat.
Depends where. At a market near where I live, the street food includes
black peas, steamed baby potatoes and black pudding. Really tasty.
Sausage vendors and so on? Yes, I'd certainly give them a miss!
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> Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn
>
> >> That looks like a lot of our markets here. Like our local favorite, the
> >> Marché Saint Germain.
> >
> >Sshh! Don't tell any of the 'UK has crap produce' brigade!
>
> I think the correct advice for UK is the foods fine but avoid
> bottom end US style fast food chains and street food, I cant
> think of any street food here I would want to eat.
Depends where. At a market near where I live, the street food includes
black peas, steamed baby potatoes and black pudding. Really tasty.
Sausage vendors and so on? Yes, I'd certainly give them a miss!
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David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
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#63
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The Reids <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to yaofeng
>
> > the paella is far better than
> >anywhere else you get, certainly far better than Spain
>
> Really? Could you describe it more?
There is a Spanish restaurant in Cambridge MA (run by a Cuban!) that
served a better paella than I've ever had in Spain. I don't think that
it's on the menu anymore- he said it was too much hassle to make! (My
partner was a waiter at the restaurant a long long time ago.) I've just
never had much luck with paella in Spain. Even in restaurants that
otherwise served very good food IMO, the Paella was disappointing. I've
preferred things like arroz negro when I've had it.
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> Following up to yaofeng
>
> > the paella is far better than
> >anywhere else you get, certainly far better than Spain
>
> Really? Could you describe it more?
There is a Spanish restaurant in Cambridge MA (run by a Cuban!) that
served a better paella than I've ever had in Spain. I don't think that
it's on the menu anymore- he said it was too much hassle to make! (My
partner was a waiter at the restaurant a long long time ago.) I've just
never had much luck with paella in Spain. Even in restaurants that
otherwise served very good food IMO, the Paella was disappointing. I've
preferred things like arroz negro when I've had it.
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David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
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The Reids <[email protected]> writes:
> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although i'm sure poor
> people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
I used to, as a student ("poor person"). They're actually very nice!
Des
> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although i'm sure poor
> people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
I used to, as a student ("poor person"). They're actually very nice!
Des
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[email protected] wrote:
> I think London is one of the better European cities for
> restaurants if you have at least a moderate budget and really know
> where to go...
It is extremely difficult for tourists to "really know where to go".
One night in Italy we decided it was time to eat and entered the
corner restaurant to be given the last two available seats at a table
in company with a couple of Italians and French. They told us it was
the best restaurant in town (I think it was Firenze).
We certainly did have a good meal, the cost was modest and, on
departure, there was a mob outside seeking to gain entry.
What's "a moderate budget"?
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> I think London is one of the better European cities for
> restaurants if you have at least a moderate budget and really know
> where to go...
It is extremely difficult for tourists to "really know where to go".
One night in Italy we decided it was time to eat and entered the
corner restaurant to be given the last two available seats at a table
in company with a couple of Italians and French. They told us it was
the best restaurant in town (I think it was Firenze).
We certainly did have a good meal, the cost was modest and, on
departure, there was a mob outside seeking to gain entry.
What's "a moderate budget"?
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:37 +0100, The Reids wrote:
> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
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Tim C.
> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
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On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:05:16 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:37 +0100, The Reids wrote:
>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
>eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
but not a patch on Mike's favourite Whitstable oyster and ketchup
butties.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:37 +0100, The Reids wrote:
>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
>eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
but not a patch on Mike's favourite Whitstable oyster and ketchup
butties.
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:17:14 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:05:16 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:37 +0100, The Reids wrote:
>>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>>They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
>>eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
>
> but not a patch on Mike's favourite Whitstable oyster and ketchup
> butties.
Yummie, not. I hate oysters.
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Tim C.
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:05:16 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:37 +0100, The Reids wrote:
>>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>>They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
>>eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
>
> but not a patch on Mike's favourite Whitstable oyster and ketchup
> butties.
Yummie, not. I hate oysters.
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Tim C.
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On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:16:58 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:17:14 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:05:16 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:37 +0100, The Reids wrote:
>>>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>>>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>>>They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
>>>eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
>>
>> but not a patch on Mike's favourite Whitstable oyster and ketchup
>> butties.
>Yummie, not. I hate oysters.
Organic bogies in a shell?
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:17:14 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:05:16 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:37 +0100, The Reids wrote:
>>>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>>>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>>>They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
>>>eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
>>
>> but not a patch on Mike's favourite Whitstable oyster and ketchup
>> butties.
>Yummie, not. I hate oysters.
Organic bogies in a shell?
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:13:21 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:16:58 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:17:14 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:05:16 +0200, Tim Challenger
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:37 +0100, The Reids wrote:
>>>>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>>>>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>>>>They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
>>>>eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
>>>
>>> but not a patch on Mike's favourite Whitstable oyster and ketchup
>>> butties.
>>Yummie, not. I hate oysters.
>
> Organic bogies in a shell?
Yep. Exactly. Vom!
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> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:16:58 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:17:14 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:05:16 +0200, Tim Challenger
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:37 +0100, The Reids wrote:
>>>>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>>>>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>>>>They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
>>>>eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
>>>
>>> but not a patch on Mike's favourite Whitstable oyster and ketchup
>>> butties.
>>Yummie, not. I hate oysters.
>
> Organic bogies in a shell?
Yep. Exactly. Vom!
--
Tim C.
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On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:43:39 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:13:21 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:16:58 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:17:14 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:05:16 +0200, Tim Challenger
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:37 +0100, The Reids wrote:
>>>>>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>>>>>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>>>>>They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
>>>>>eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
>>>>
>>>> but not a patch on Mike's favourite Whitstable oyster and ketchup
>>>> butties.
>>>Yummie, not. I hate oysters.
>>
>> Organic bogies in a shell?
>Yep. Exactly. Vom!
<Technicolor yawn>
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:13:21 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:16:58 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:17:14 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:05:16 +0200, Tim Challenger
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:37 +0100, The Reids wrote:
>>>>>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>>>>>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>>>>>They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
>>>>>eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
>>>>
>>>> but not a patch on Mike's favourite Whitstable oyster and ketchup
>>>> butties.
>>>Yummie, not. I hate oysters.
>>
>> Organic bogies in a shell?
>Yep. Exactly. Vom!
<Technicolor yawn>
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There is only one word to describe the paella in Spain, atrocious.
This is after having paella's in the iron Bound section of Newrak, New
Jersey.
This is after having paella's in the iron Bound section of Newrak, New
Jersey.
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"yaofeng" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> There is only one word to describe the paella in Spain, atrocious.
> This is after having paella's in the iron Bound section of Newrak, New
> Jersey.
They have terrific Portuguese food there. Very well known for it.
nancy
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> There is only one word to describe the paella in Spain, atrocious.
> This is after having paella's in the iron Bound section of Newrak, New
> Jersey.
They have terrific Portuguese food there. Very well known for it.
nancy
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Check a few ones out in the Ironbound section of Newark, New Jersey.
http://www.iberiarestaurants.com/
http://www.goironbound.com/html/dining/spanish.htm
It has a sizable contingent from Spain, Brazil and Portugal. Most
would agree the paella there is better than what you get in Spain.
I've never had better paella elsewhere.
I even had feijoada in one of the Brazilain restaurant there. You
won't find too many Brazialian restaurants in the US. Out of those
even fewer serve Feijoada. The one I went in Ironbound does it only on
weekends.
http://www.iberiarestaurants.com/
http://www.goironbound.com/html/dining/spanish.htm
It has a sizable contingent from Spain, Brazil and Portugal. Most
would agree the paella there is better than what you get in Spain.
I've never had better paella elsewhere.
I even had feijoada in one of the Brazilain restaurant there. You
won't find too many Brazialian restaurants in the US. Out of those
even fewer serve Feijoada. The one I went in Ironbound does it only on
weekends.
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"Most would agree the paella there is better than what you get in
Spain."
That's if you don't know where to go in Spain or only go to tourist
restaurants.
I had great food in all parts of Spain, including paella, and I was
travelling on a minimal budget. Not to say that there aren't some very
good Spanish restaurants in the US, but I haven't found anything quite
up to the Spanish level.
"I even had feijoada in one of the Brazilain restaurant there. You
won't find too many Brazialian restaurants in the US. Out of those
even fewer serve Feijoada. The one I went in Ironbound does it only on
weekends."
Most of the Brazilian restaurants in the US specialize in barbecued
meat, and some only serve barbecued meat. I've had more diverse
Brazilian cuisine like moqueca and feijoada, but only in New York and
Miami (I assume you can also get it in Boston and Newark). Bahian
cuisine is almost impossible to find in the US.
Spain."
That's if you don't know where to go in Spain or only go to tourist
restaurants.
I had great food in all parts of Spain, including paella, and I was
travelling on a minimal budget. Not to say that there aren't some very
good Spanish restaurants in the US, but I haven't found anything quite
up to the Spanish level.
"I even had feijoada in one of the Brazilain restaurant there. You
won't find too many Brazialian restaurants in the US. Out of those
even fewer serve Feijoada. The one I went in Ironbound does it only on
weekends."
Most of the Brazilian restaurants in the US specialize in barbecued
meat, and some only serve barbecued meat. I've had more diverse
Brazilian cuisine like moqueca and feijoada, but only in New York and
Miami (I assume you can also get it in Boston and Newark). Bahian
cuisine is almost impossible to find in the US.



