European food cultures
Apr 3rd 2005 | 5:07 pm
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Re: European food cultures
On 3 Apr 2005 20:57:41 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, "yaofeng" <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... Straying a bit from the content but staying with the subject matter
... nonetheless, I was thinking about food in different countries the other
... day. One thing which strikes me is the unusually large number of "all
... you can eat" restaurants in the US. Within a 20 mile radius of where I
... live, I think I can easily find 20 all you can eat places. This is
... something I didn't find in the UK, France, Spain, etc... (I didn't find
... a single all you can eat places in aformentioned countries as a matter
... of fact.)
Try Brazil.
Some 20-25 years ago they would have restaurants where you could eat all you wanted
(mainly pizza and grilled meat) for a fixed price. Maybe they still do.
... Is it because I am a tourist and didn't know my way around where as in
... my own hometown I am familiar with the local environment? This is
... beside the fact that virtually all restaurants serve far larger
... portions as compared to countries from around the world.
...
... This naturally leads to unusually large number of obese people in the
... US, a subject covered and flammed by many on this board.
Some people eat to live, others live to eat. YMMV.
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... Straying a bit from the content but staying with the subject matter
... nonetheless, I was thinking about food in different countries the other
... day. One thing which strikes me is the unusually large number of "all
... you can eat" restaurants in the US. Within a 20 mile radius of where I
... live, I think I can easily find 20 all you can eat places. This is
... something I didn't find in the UK, France, Spain, etc... (I didn't find
... a single all you can eat places in aformentioned countries as a matter
... of fact.)
Try Brazil.
Some 20-25 years ago they would have restaurants where you could eat all you wanted
(mainly pizza and grilled meat) for a fixed price. Maybe they still do.
... Is it because I am a tourist and didn't know my way around where as in
... my own hometown I am familiar with the local environment? This is
... beside the fact that virtually all restaurants serve far larger
... portions as compared to countries from around the world.
...
... This naturally leads to unusually large number of obese people in the
... US, a subject covered and flammed by many on this board.
Some people eat to live, others live to eat. YMMV.
Apr 3rd 2005 | 8:59 pm
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Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn
>> Ireland and UK are "potato and beer cultures".
>Depends whose household!
>We almost never have potatoes as the main carbohydrate in a meal. I use
>them quite a bit, in stews, curries etc. (yesterday in a Tortilla), also
>as accompaniments with rice- but rarely the main thing. I suppose the
>potato probably still dominates in the UK, but I wonder if that isn't
>changing...
Certainly, although my mother in law has potatoes with her curry
instead of rice :-)
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>> Ireland and UK are "potato and beer cultures".
>Depends whose household!
>We almost never have potatoes as the main carbohydrate in a meal. I use
>them quite a bit, in stews, curries etc. (yesterday in a Tortilla), also
>as accompaniments with rice- but rarely the main thing. I suppose the
>potato probably still dominates in the UK, but I wonder if that isn't
>changing...
Certainly, although my mother in law has potatoes with her curry
instead of rice :-)
--
Mike Reid
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Apr 3rd 2005 | 8:59 pm
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Following up to quiqueg
>> Spain, I cant decide, certainly wine.
>wheat, definately
I think that's right, bread is the universal thing in Spain.
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>> Spain, I cant decide, certainly wine.
>wheat, definately
I think that's right, bread is the universal thing in Spain.
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Apr 3rd 2005 | 8:59 pm
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Following up to Edmund Lewis
>Chips I suppose still keep the potato dominant to some extent. But I
>agree it's rare to have them as the only carb (chip butties, lasagne
>and chips anyone?).
Did you type what you meant?
> also
>> as accompaniments with rice- but rarely the main thing. I suppose the
>> potato probably still dominates in the UK, but I wonder if that isn't
>> changing...
>Mention "potato" to me and I think tasteless boiled things beloved of
>school caterers. (Love the baked and roasted ones though)
but get a quality potato like a pink fir apple and boiled
potatoes are a wonderful thing.
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>Chips I suppose still keep the potato dominant to some extent. But I
>agree it's rare to have them as the only carb (chip butties, lasagne
>and chips anyone?).
Did you type what you meant?
> also
>> as accompaniments with rice- but rarely the main thing. I suppose the
>> potato probably still dominates in the UK, but I wonder if that isn't
>> changing...
>Mention "potato" to me and I think tasteless boiled things beloved of
>school caterers. (Love the baked and roasted ones though)
but get a quality potato like a pink fir apple and boiled
potatoes are a wonderful thing.
--
Mike Reid
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Apr 3rd 2005 | 9:02 pm
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The Reids <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn
>
> >> Ireland and UK are "potato and beer cultures".
> >
> >Depends whose household!
> >
> >We almost never have potatoes as the main carbohydrate in a meal. I use
> >them quite a bit, in stews, curries etc. (yesterday in a Tortilla), also
> >as accompaniments with rice- but rarely the main thing. I suppose the
> >potato probably still dominates in the UK, but I wonder if that isn't
> >changing...
>
> Certainly, although my mother in law has potatoes with her curry
> instead of rice :-)
And the ubiquitous curry and chips! :)
--
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> Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn
>
> >> Ireland and UK are "potato and beer cultures".
> >
> >Depends whose household!
> >
> >We almost never have potatoes as the main carbohydrate in a meal. I use
> >them quite a bit, in stews, curries etc. (yesterday in a Tortilla), also
> >as accompaniments with rice- but rarely the main thing. I suppose the
> >potato probably still dominates in the UK, but I wonder if that isn't
> >changing...
>
> Certainly, although my mother in law has potatoes with her curry
> instead of rice :-)
And the ubiquitous curry and chips! :)
--
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Apr 3rd 2005 | 9:58 pm
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yaofeng wrote:
> "all you can eat" restaurants in the US . . . This is something I
> didn't find in the UK, France, Spain, etc...
I saw one, not so advertised, in London. It was a pizza joint,
probably in West One, with a "buffet". I went in to see very sad
looking slices of "pizza" and, I think, some spaghetti and some
ravioli. No salad, no vegetables, no fruit, no nuttin' but those
three items. I enquired about how it worked to be told to have all I
wanted. It looked so awful that I didn't want any and went elsewhere.
Eating for fun is is certainly a pleasure but doing so absent
nutritional value is, uh, fruitless.
> This naturally leads to unusually large number of obese people in
> the US, a subject covered and flammed by many on this board.
No, it doesn't. Improper eating leads to obese people. I frequent
buffets and eat enormous quantities. I'm old and far from obese. My
Body Mass Index is lower than 25.
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> "all you can eat" restaurants in the US . . . This is something I
> didn't find in the UK, France, Spain, etc...
I saw one, not so advertised, in London. It was a pizza joint,
probably in West One, with a "buffet". I went in to see very sad
looking slices of "pizza" and, I think, some spaghetti and some
ravioli. No salad, no vegetables, no fruit, no nuttin' but those
three items. I enquired about how it worked to be told to have all I
wanted. It looked so awful that I didn't want any and went elsewhere.
Eating for fun is is certainly a pleasure but doing so absent
nutritional value is, uh, fruitless.
> This naturally leads to unusually large number of obese people in
> the US, a subject covered and flammed by many on this board.
No, it doesn't. Improper eating leads to obese people. I frequent
buffets and eat enormous quantities. I'm old and far from obese. My
Body Mass Index is lower than 25.
__________________________________________________ ____________
A San Francisco glutton who says: "You serve it, I'll eat it!"
http://geocities.com/dancefest/ http://geocities.com/iconoc/
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Apr 3rd 2005 | 10:13 pm
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Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn
>> Certainly, although my mother in law has potatoes with her curry
>> instead of rice :-)
>And the ubiquitous curry and chips! :)
and in reverse, chilli con carne with rice.
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>> Certainly, although my mother in law has potatoes with her curry
>> instead of rice :-)
>And the ubiquitous curry and chips! :)
and in reverse, chilli con carne with rice.
--
Mike Reid
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Apr 3rd 2005 | 10:34 pm
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dgs schrieb:
> SeverinBohnheim wrote:
>
>> [email protected] schrieb:
>>> Beer: England, Ireland, Germany (except Rhine region), Belgium,
>>> Netherlands, Denmark, Czech Republic
>>> Wine: Spain, Portugal, Italy, France, Romania, Rhine region of Germany,
>> + Mosel, Suebia, Franconia and Saale = wine.
>
>
> Franconia is even more of a beer territory than a wine territory.
ok, but Mainfranken / Iffgau and other regions of Franconia are
wineregions, no doubt. One of the best German white wine is produced there.
http://www.wein-abc.de/anbaugebiete/index.php
In other wineregions people are used to drink beer too and have famous
breweries like in Cologne or Freiburg - or Alsace (Kronenburg / Meteor /
Schutzenberger). But no doubt this are wineregions.
> SeverinBohnheim wrote:
>
>> [email protected] schrieb:
>>> Beer: England, Ireland, Germany (except Rhine region), Belgium,
>>> Netherlands, Denmark, Czech Republic
>>> Wine: Spain, Portugal, Italy, France, Romania, Rhine region of Germany,
>> + Mosel, Suebia, Franconia and Saale = wine.
>
>
> Franconia is even more of a beer territory than a wine territory.
ok, but Mainfranken / Iffgau and other regions of Franconia are
wineregions, no doubt. One of the best German white wine is produced there.
http://www.wein-abc.de/anbaugebiete/index.php
In other wineregions people are used to drink beer too and have famous
breweries like in Cologne or Freiburg - or Alsace (Kronenburg / Meteor /
Schutzenberger). But no doubt this are wineregions.
Apr 3rd 2005 | 10:34 pm
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> I once saw a map of what Americans most frequently call a non-alcoholic
> carbonated beverage. It was divided into regions of "Soda", "Pop",
> "Coke", and other based on responses from people on the Web.
Did they include "ginger"?
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> carbonated beverage. It was divided into regions of "Soda", "Pop",
> "Coke", and other based on responses from people on the Web.
Did they include "ginger"?
============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ==============
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Apr 3rd 2005 | 10:52 pm
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Yes. Brazil is one country "all you can eat" is alive and well. The
Churiscaria turns my stomach. But it is not nearly as popular as in
the US. Here there are Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, Portugese, you name
it. You can eat all.
Churiscaria turns my stomach. But it is not nearly as popular as in
the US. Here there are Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, Portugese, you name
it. You can eat all.
Apr 3rd 2005 | 11:18 pm
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Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:
> > I once saw a map of what Americans most frequently call a
non-alcoholic
> > carbonated beverage. It was divided into regions of "Soda", "Pop",
> > "Coke", and other based on responses from people on the Web.
>
> Did they include "ginger"?
>
http://www.popvssoda.com/
> > I once saw a map of what Americans most frequently call a
non-alcoholic
> > carbonated beverage. It was divided into regions of "Soda", "Pop",
> > "Coke", and other based on responses from people on the Web.
>
> Did they include "ginger"?
>
http://www.popvssoda.com/
Apr 3rd 2005 | 11:24 pm
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Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>> I once saw a map of what Americans most frequently call a
>> non-alcoholic carbonated beverage. It was divided into regions of
>> "Soda", "Pop", "Coke", and other based on responses from people on
>> the Web.
>
> Did they include "ginger"?
Did they include "tonic"?
news:[email protected]:
>> I once saw a map of what Americans most frequently call a
>> non-alcoholic carbonated beverage. It was divided into regions of
>> "Soda", "Pop", "Coke", and other based on responses from people on
>> the Web.
>
> Did they include "ginger"?
Did they include "tonic"?
Apr 4th 2005 | 12:41 am
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>>> I once saw a map of what Americans most frequently call a non-alcoholic
>>> carbonated beverage. It was divided into regions of "Soda", "Pop",
>>> "Coke", and other based on responses from people on the Web.
>> Did they include "ginger"?
> http://www.popvssoda.com/
Could have done with some editing. I looked at Pennsylvania, as you
often get Scotticisms in Pittsburgh dialect, but "ginger" (common in
Glasgow) doesn't seem to have got there.
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>>> carbonated beverage. It was divided into regions of "Soda", "Pop",
>>> "Coke", and other based on responses from people on the Web.
>> Did they include "ginger"?
> http://www.popvssoda.com/
Could have done with some editing. I looked at Pennsylvania, as you
often get Scotticisms in Pittsburgh dialect, but "ginger" (common in
Glasgow) doesn't seem to have got there.
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Apr 4th 2005 | 12:43 am
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Following up to Icono Clast
>This is something I
>> didn't find in the UK, France, Spain, etc...
>I saw one, not so advertised, in London. It was a pizza joint,
>probably in West One, with a "buffet". I went in to see very sad
>looking slices of "pizza"......
You will find a few buffet style places like that, often
downmarket ethnic food at unpopular times. Big hotels also
sometimes have a buffet where you *could* all you wanted, but as
you say they are not promoted as "eat all you can".
--
Mike Reid
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>This is something I
>> didn't find in the UK, France, Spain, etc...
>I saw one, not so advertised, in London. It was a pizza joint,
>probably in West One, with a "buffet". I went in to see very sad
>looking slices of "pizza"......
You will find a few buffet style places like that, often
downmarket ethnic food at unpopular times. Big hotels also
sometimes have a buffet where you *could* all you wanted, but as
you say they are not promoted as "eat all you can".
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-Photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
Apr 4th 2005 | 1:25 am
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Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>>>> I once saw a map of what Americans most frequently call a
>>>> non-alcoholic carbonated beverage. It was divided into regions of
>>>> "Soda", "Pop", "Coke", and other based on responses from people on
>>>> the Web.
>>> Did they include "ginger"?
>> http://www.popvssoda.com/
>
> Could have done with some editing. I looked at Pennsylvania, as you
> often get Scotticisms in Pittsburgh dialect, but "ginger" (common in
> Glasgow) doesn't seem to have got there.
Nine respondents answered "ginger" under no state/province.
news:[email protected]:
>>>> I once saw a map of what Americans most frequently call a
>>>> non-alcoholic carbonated beverage. It was divided into regions of
>>>> "Soda", "Pop", "Coke", and other based on responses from people on
>>>> the Web.
>>> Did they include "ginger"?
>> http://www.popvssoda.com/
>
> Could have done with some editing. I looked at Pennsylvania, as you
> often get Scotticisms in Pittsburgh dialect, but "ginger" (common in
> Glasgow) doesn't seem to have got there.
Nine respondents answered "ginger" under no state/province.
