Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
Mar 16th 2007, 2:13 am
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Re: Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
On Mar 15, 8:14 pm, "Jigsaw1695" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 15, 9:05?pm, "bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >news:[email protected] ups.com...
>
> > The "anti- warming" people fall back on citing "some" scientists that say it
> > is a myth, etc. Question -- if 95% of your doctors told you that you had
> > late stage cancer that might respond to treatment, and 5% said you were OK
> > and not to worry about it, ?what would you do?
> > Goodbye Miami, Goodbye Lauderdale,
> > Fetch me a bucket, fetch me a pail.
> > Tampa is damper than ever before
> > And Key West ain't Key West no more.
> > rjf
>
> One of two things will happen. "Global Warming" will have no effect on
> our lives,
> ..... or ..... We are all going to die from it.
>
> Jigsaw
No scientists are saying we are "all going to die" from global
warming. Some say it may be a problem of indeterminate magnitude,
that is all.
> On Mar 15, 9:05?pm, "bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >news:[email protected] ups.com...
>
> > The "anti- warming" people fall back on citing "some" scientists that say it
> > is a myth, etc. Question -- if 95% of your doctors told you that you had
> > late stage cancer that might respond to treatment, and 5% said you were OK
> > and not to worry about it, ?what would you do?
> > Goodbye Miami, Goodbye Lauderdale,
> > Fetch me a bucket, fetch me a pail.
> > Tampa is damper than ever before
> > And Key West ain't Key West no more.
> > rjf
>
> One of two things will happen. "Global Warming" will have no effect on
> our lives,
> ..... or ..... We are all going to die from it.
>
> Jigsaw
No scientists are saying we are "all going to die" from global
warming. Some say it may be a problem of indeterminate magnitude,
that is all.
Mar 16th 2007, 2:14 am
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Re: Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
On Mar 15, 8:31 pm, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
> > One of two things will happen. "Global Warming" will have no effect on
> > our lives,
> > ..... or ..... We are all going to die from it.
>
> No, I think it will be in the middle. Global warming will affect
> everybody, but humanity will adapt. There will certainly be struggles.
> Many people will die, many species will go extinct.
>
> Eventually the sun will die out and all life on Earth will die from Global
> Cooling.
More likely, nothing is going to happen.
> > One of two things will happen. "Global Warming" will have no effect on
> > our lives,
> > ..... or ..... We are all going to die from it.
>
> No, I think it will be in the middle. Global warming will affect
> everybody, but humanity will adapt. There will certainly be struggles.
> Many people will die, many species will go extinct.
>
> Eventually the sun will die out and all life on Earth will die from Global
> Cooling.
More likely, nothing is going to happen.
Mar 16th 2007, 2:14 am
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Re: Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
On Mar 15, 8:51 pm, "John Rennie" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news
[email protected]...
>
>
>
> >> One of two things will happen. "Global Warming" will have no effect on
> >> our lives,
> >> ..... or ..... We are all going to die from it.
>
> > No, I think it will be in the middle. Global warming will affect
> > everybody, but humanity will adapt. There will certainly be struggles.
> > Many people will die, many species will go extinct.
>
> One of the species will be the human species.
>
>
>
> > Eventually the sun will die out and all life on Earth will die from Global
> > Cooling.
>
> When in five million years this event occurs the Earth will be consumed by a
> much larger sun. So no cooling.
Pure fantasy.
> "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news
[email protected]...>
>
>
> >> One of two things will happen. "Global Warming" will have no effect on
> >> our lives,
> >> ..... or ..... We are all going to die from it.
>
> > No, I think it will be in the middle. Global warming will affect
> > everybody, but humanity will adapt. There will certainly be struggles.
> > Many people will die, many species will go extinct.
>
> One of the species will be the human species.
>
>
>
> > Eventually the sun will die out and all life on Earth will die from Global
> > Cooling.
>
> When in five million years this event occurs the Earth will be consumed by a
> much larger sun. So no cooling.
Pure fantasy.
Mar 16th 2007, 2:15 am
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Re: Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
On Mar 16, 7:11 am, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> Make credence recognised that on 15 Mar 2007 15:17:29 -0700, "Jerry
> Kraus" <[email protected]> has scripted:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mar 15, 5:15 pm, "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> COPENHAGEN, Denmark, March 15 (UPI) -- A Danish scientist said the
> >> idea of a "global temperature" and global warming is more political
> >> than scientific.
>
> >> University of Copenhagen Professor Bjarne Andresen has analyzed the
> >> topic in collaboration with Canadian Professors Christopher Essex from
> >> the University of Western Ontario and Ross McKitrick of the University
> >> of Guelph.
>
> >> It is generally assumed the Earth's atmosphere and oceans have grown
> >> warmer during the recent 50 years because of an upward trend in the so-
> >> called global temperature, which is the result of complex calculations
> >> and averaging of air temperature measurements taken around the world.
>
> >> "It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as
> >> complicated as the climate of Earth," said Andresen, an expert on
> >> thermodynamics. "A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous
> >> system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single
> >> temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes
> >> and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the
> >> climate".
>
> >> He says the currently used method of determining the global
> >> temperature -- and any conclusion drawn from it -- is more political
> >> than scientific.
>
> >Correct. Global Warming is an environmentalist myth/religion given
> >credibility by ambitious and unscrupulous scientists and politicians.
>
> Ummm... no, it's real. And please wipe your chin after talking shit.
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Ah, a moron. How are you moron? What's it like to be a moron, anyway?
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> Make credence recognised that on 15 Mar 2007 15:17:29 -0700, "Jerry
> Kraus" <[email protected]> has scripted:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mar 15, 5:15 pm, "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> COPENHAGEN, Denmark, March 15 (UPI) -- A Danish scientist said the
> >> idea of a "global temperature" and global warming is more political
> >> than scientific.
>
> >> University of Copenhagen Professor Bjarne Andresen has analyzed the
> >> topic in collaboration with Canadian Professors Christopher Essex from
> >> the University of Western Ontario and Ross McKitrick of the University
> >> of Guelph.
>
> >> It is generally assumed the Earth's atmosphere and oceans have grown
> >> warmer during the recent 50 years because of an upward trend in the so-
> >> called global temperature, which is the result of complex calculations
> >> and averaging of air temperature measurements taken around the world.
>
> >> "It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as
> >> complicated as the climate of Earth," said Andresen, an expert on
> >> thermodynamics. "A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous
> >> system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single
> >> temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes
> >> and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the
> >> climate".
>
> >> He says the currently used method of determining the global
> >> temperature -- and any conclusion drawn from it -- is more political
> >> than scientific.
>
> >Correct. Global Warming is an environmentalist myth/religion given
> >credibility by ambitious and unscrupulous scientists and politicians.
>
> Ummm... no, it's real. And please wipe your chin after talking shit.
> --
> ---
> DFM -http://www.deepfriedmars.com
> ---
> --- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Ah, a moron. How are you moron? What's it like to be a moron, anyway?
Mar 16th 2007, 2:17 am
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Re: Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
"Jerry Kraus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> On Mar 15, 8:05 pm, "bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected] ps.com...
>>
>> The "anti- warming" people fall back on citing "some" scientists that say
>> it
>> is a myth, etc. Question -- if 95% of your doctors told you that you had
>> late stage cancer that might respond to treatment, and 5% said you were
>> OK
>> and not to worry about it, what would you do?
>> Goodbye Miami, Goodbye Lauderdale,
>> Fetch me a bucket, fetch me a pail.
>> Tampa is damper than ever before
>> And Key West ain't Key West no more.
>> rjf
>
> Few if any scientists are saying Goodbye to all the major cities in
> Florida. Some are saying they aren't really sure what's going to
> happen. So what? Why all the fuss?
>
> In any case they have no solution. If the sea levels rise, we build
> dykes, like the Dutch. Again, what's the problem? Why all the fuss?
>
The point is you won't build dykes like the Dutch, you'll build levees just
like New Orleans,
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> On Mar 15, 8:05 pm, "bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected] ps.com...
>>
>> The "anti- warming" people fall back on citing "some" scientists that say
>> it
>> is a myth, etc. Question -- if 95% of your doctors told you that you had
>> late stage cancer that might respond to treatment, and 5% said you were
>> OK
>> and not to worry about it, what would you do?
>> Goodbye Miami, Goodbye Lauderdale,
>> Fetch me a bucket, fetch me a pail.
>> Tampa is damper than ever before
>> And Key West ain't Key West no more.
>> rjf
>
> Few if any scientists are saying Goodbye to all the major cities in
> Florida. Some are saying they aren't really sure what's going to
> happen. So what? Why all the fuss?
>
> In any case they have no solution. If the sea levels rise, we build
> dykes, like the Dutch. Again, what's the problem? Why all the fuss?
>
The point is you won't build dykes like the Dutch, you'll build levees just
like New Orleans,
Mar 16th 2007, 2:26 am
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Re: Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
Jerry Kraus:
> If the sea levels rise, we build dykes, like the Dutch.
Sea levels are rising. Have you started building dykes, yet?
> If the sea levels rise, we build dykes, like the Dutch.
Sea levels are rising. Have you started building dykes, yet?
Mar 16th 2007, 2:31 am
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Re: Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
On 16/03/07 15:14, in article
[email protected] om, "Jerry Kraus"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> When in five million years this event occurs the Earth will be consumed by a
>> much larger sun. So no cooling.
>
> Pure fantasy.
The final fate of the earth is to get fried but the sun won't expand this
far out.
The time span is much longer, the energy output of the sun will increase
about 10% per billion years, it already has heated up 30%. At the current
out put level the earth would have average temperatures below 0�C if there
was no CO2. During the depths of the ice age, when the CO2 content is
200 ppm the temperatures were 8�C less than they were at around 300 ppm
The earth can expect reasonable temperatures for a half a billion years
more which is about the time multicellular life has really existed on this
planet.
Roughly speaking the sun has half way through its 10 billion year life
of hydrogen fusion. It will then pass on to a short period of helium
fusion but not go much futher, it is not big enough to become a black
hole or a neutron star, it will end up as a white dwarf before is loses
even that whiteness.
If you wiki the sun you get.
"The Sun does not have enough mass to explode as a supernova. Instead, in
4-5 billion years, it will enter a red giant phase, its outer layers
expanding as the hydrogen fuel in the core is consumed and the core
contracts and heats up. Helium fusion will begin when the core temperature
reaches around 100 MK, and will produce carbon and oxygen. While it is
likely that the expansion of the outer layers of the Sun will reach the
current position of Earth's orbit, recent research suggests that mass lost
from the Sun earlier in its red giant phase will cause the Earth's orbit to
move further out, preventing it from being engulfed. However, Earth's water
will be boiled away and most of its atmosphere will escape into space.
Following the red giant phase, intense thermal pulsations will cause the Sun
to throw off its outer layers, forming a planetary nebula. The only object
that will remain after the outer layers are ejected is the extremely hot
stellar core, which will slowly cool and fade as a white dwarf over many
billions of years. This stellar evolution scenario is typical of low- to
medium-mass stars.[5][6]"
[email protected] om, "Jerry Kraus"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> When in five million years this event occurs the Earth will be consumed by a
>> much larger sun. So no cooling.
>
> Pure fantasy.
The final fate of the earth is to get fried but the sun won't expand this
far out.
The time span is much longer, the energy output of the sun will increase
about 10% per billion years, it already has heated up 30%. At the current
out put level the earth would have average temperatures below 0�C if there
was no CO2. During the depths of the ice age, when the CO2 content is
200 ppm the temperatures were 8�C less than they were at around 300 ppm
The earth can expect reasonable temperatures for a half a billion years
more which is about the time multicellular life has really existed on this
planet.
Roughly speaking the sun has half way through its 10 billion year life
of hydrogen fusion. It will then pass on to a short period of helium
fusion but not go much futher, it is not big enough to become a black
hole or a neutron star, it will end up as a white dwarf before is loses
even that whiteness.
If you wiki the sun you get.
"The Sun does not have enough mass to explode as a supernova. Instead, in
4-5 billion years, it will enter a red giant phase, its outer layers
expanding as the hydrogen fuel in the core is consumed and the core
contracts and heats up. Helium fusion will begin when the core temperature
reaches around 100 MK, and will produce carbon and oxygen. While it is
likely that the expansion of the outer layers of the Sun will reach the
current position of Earth's orbit, recent research suggests that mass lost
from the Sun earlier in its red giant phase will cause the Earth's orbit to
move further out, preventing it from being engulfed. However, Earth's water
will be boiled away and most of its atmosphere will escape into space.
Following the red giant phase, intense thermal pulsations will cause the Sun
to throw off its outer layers, forming a planetary nebula. The only object
that will remain after the outer layers are ejected is the extremely hot
stellar core, which will slowly cool and fade as a white dwarf over many
billions of years. This stellar evolution scenario is typical of low- to
medium-mass stars.[5][6]"
Mar 16th 2007, 2:32 am
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Re: Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
On 16/03/07 15:17, in article [email protected],
"John Rennie" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The point is you won't build dykes like the Dutch, you'll build levees just
> like New Orleans,
And Florida is not worth saving after cheating on the 2000 elections and
giving the world Bush.
"John Rennie" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The point is you won't build dykes like the Dutch, you'll build levees just
> like New Orleans,
And Florida is not worth saving after cheating on the 2000 elections and
giving the world Bush.
Mar 16th 2007, 2:35 am
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Re: Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
Earl Evleth:
> On 16/03/07 15:17, in article [email protected],
> "John Rennie" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The point is you won't build dykes like the Dutch, you'll build levees just
> > like New Orleans,
>
> And Florida is not worth saving after cheating on the 2000 elections and
> giving the world Bush.
Would you be willing to save half the population, the ones who voted
against Bush?
> On 16/03/07 15:17, in article [email protected],
> "John Rennie" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The point is you won't build dykes like the Dutch, you'll build levees just
> > like New Orleans,
>
> And Florida is not worth saving after cheating on the 2000 elections and
> giving the world Bush.
Would you be willing to save half the population, the ones who voted
against Bush?
Mar 16th 2007, 2:37 am
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Re: Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
You say that the sun is getting hotter, evleth! Maybe that has
something to do with the rise in temperatures on earth
something to do with the rise in temperatures on earth
Mar 16th 2007, 2:52 am
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Re: Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
"Jerry Kraus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> On Mar 15, 8:51 pm, "John Rennie" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news[email protected]...
>>
>>
>>
>> >> One of two things will happen. "Global Warming" will have no effect on
>> >> our lives,
>> >> ..... or ..... We are all going to die from it.
>>
>> > No, I think it will be in the middle. Global warming will affect
>> > everybody, but humanity will adapt. There will certainly be struggles.
>> > Many people will die, many species will go extinct.
>>
>> One of the species will be the human species.
>>
>>
>>
>> > Eventually the sun will die out and all life on Earth will die from
>> > Global
>> > Cooling.
>>
>> When in five million years this event occurs the Earth will be consumed
>> by a
>> much larger sun. So no cooling.
>
> Pure fantasy.
>
No. Just up-to-date science.
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> On Mar 15, 8:51 pm, "John Rennie" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news
[email protected]...>>
>>
>>
>> >> One of two things will happen. "Global Warming" will have no effect on
>> >> our lives,
>> >> ..... or ..... We are all going to die from it.
>>
>> > No, I think it will be in the middle. Global warming will affect
>> > everybody, but humanity will adapt. There will certainly be struggles.
>> > Many people will die, many species will go extinct.
>>
>> One of the species will be the human species.
>>
>>
>>
>> > Eventually the sun will die out and all life on Earth will die from
>> > Global
>> > Cooling.
>>
>> When in five million years this event occurs the Earth will be consumed
>> by a
>> much larger sun. So no cooling.
>
> Pure fantasy.
>
No. Just up-to-date science.
Mar 16th 2007, 3:00 am
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Re: Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
"John Rennie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Jerry Kraus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>> On Mar 15, 8:51 pm, "John Rennie" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >> One of two things will happen. "Global Warming" will have no effect
>>> >> on
>>> >> our lives,
>>> >> ..... or ..... We are all going to die from it.
>>>
>>> > No, I think it will be in the middle. Global warming will affect
>>> > everybody, but humanity will adapt. There will certainly be
>>> > struggles.
>>> > Many people will die, many species will go extinct.
>>>
>>> One of the species will be the human species.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Eventually the sun will die out and all life on Earth will die from
>>> > Global
>>> > Cooling.
>>>
>>> When in five million years this event occurs the Earth will be consumed
>>> by a
>>> much larger sun. So no cooling.
>>
>> Pure fantasy.
>>
>
> No. Just up-to-date science.
>
By the way million should be billion.
From Wilipedia:
"In about 5 billion years, stellar evolution predicts our sun will exhaust
its core hydrogen and become a red giant. In so doing, it will become
thousands of times more luminous.[3] Even in its current phase of stellar
evolution, the sun is increasing in luminosity (at a very slow rate). Many
scientists predict that in fewer than one billion years, the runaway
greenhouse effect will make Earth unsuitable for life."
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Jerry Kraus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>> On Mar 15, 8:51 pm, "John Rennie" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news
[email protected]...>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >> One of two things will happen. "Global Warming" will have no effect
>>> >> on
>>> >> our lives,
>>> >> ..... or ..... We are all going to die from it.
>>>
>>> > No, I think it will be in the middle. Global warming will affect
>>> > everybody, but humanity will adapt. There will certainly be
>>> > struggles.
>>> > Many people will die, many species will go extinct.
>>>
>>> One of the species will be the human species.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Eventually the sun will die out and all life on Earth will die from
>>> > Global
>>> > Cooling.
>>>
>>> When in five million years this event occurs the Earth will be consumed
>>> by a
>>> much larger sun. So no cooling.
>>
>> Pure fantasy.
>>
>
> No. Just up-to-date science.
>
By the way million should be billion.
From Wilipedia:
"In about 5 billion years, stellar evolution predicts our sun will exhaust
its core hydrogen and become a red giant. In so doing, it will become
thousands of times more luminous.[3] Even in its current phase of stellar
evolution, the sun is increasing in luminosity (at a very slow rate). Many
scientists predict that in fewer than one billion years, the runaway
greenhouse effect will make Earth unsuitable for life."
Mar 16th 2007, 4:05 am
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Re: Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
On 16/03/07 15:35, in article
[email protected], "Erick T. Barkhuis"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> And Florida is not worth saving after cheating on the 2000 elections and
>> giving the world Bush.
>
> Would you be willing to save half the population, the ones who voted
> against Bush?
If they sign loyalty oaths to the Democratic Party.
[email protected], "Erick T. Barkhuis"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> And Florida is not worth saving after cheating on the 2000 elections and
>> giving the world Bush.
>
> Would you be willing to save half the population, the ones who voted
> against Bush?
If they sign loyalty oaths to the Democratic Party.
Mar 16th 2007, 4:06 am
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Re: Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
On Mar 16, 9:26 am, Erick T. Barkhuis <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Jerry Kraus:
>
> > If the sea levels rise, we build dykes, like the Dutch.
>
> Sea levels are rising. Have you started building dykes, yet?
I'm in Oklahoma City at the moment. I doubt they'll rise that much.
wrote:
> Jerry Kraus:
>
> > If the sea levels rise, we build dykes, like the Dutch.
>
> Sea levels are rising. Have you started building dykes, yet?
I'm in Oklahoma City at the moment. I doubt they'll rise that much.
Mar 16th 2007, 9:10 pm
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Re: Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth
On 16/03/07 15:26, in article
[email protected], "Erick T. Barkhuis"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Sea levels are rising. Have you started building dykes, yet?
They have been rising steadily.
This is shown graphically
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:R...Level_Rise.png
an part of wikipedia article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise
Geologically, the rise started
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:P..._Sea_Level.png
from the depth of the last ice age, 18,000 years ago, suddenly
became greater 14,000 years ago and more or less leveled
of 8000 years ago.
The total rise from 18000 year ago to now is about 130-140
meters. The rise since 1900 is about 20 cm. The worst
case scenarios are unlikely to happen in the near future
(a 7 meter rise due to a total meltdown of Greenland)
but the rise of a meter or so is not "unthinkable"
A number of populated islands will be submerged in that
case, low lying levels will be inundated, particular
with the combined effect of storm surging.
[email protected], "Erick T. Barkhuis"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Sea levels are rising. Have you started building dykes, yet?
They have been rising steadily.
This is shown graphically
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:R...Level_Rise.png
an part of wikipedia article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise
Geologically, the rise started
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:P..._Sea_Level.png
from the depth of the last ice age, 18,000 years ago, suddenly
became greater 14,000 years ago and more or less leveled
of 8000 years ago.
The total rise from 18000 year ago to now is about 130-140
meters. The rise since 1900 is about 20 cm. The worst
case scenarios are unlikely to happen in the near future
(a 7 meter rise due to a total meltdown of Greenland)
but the rise of a meter or so is not "unthinkable"
A number of populated islands will be submerged in that
case, low lying levels will be inundated, particular
with the combined effect of storm surging.
