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Old Mar 15th 2007, 10:15 am
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Earl Evleth
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COPENHAGEN, Denmark, March 15 (UPI) -- A Danish scientist said the
idea of a "global temperature" and global warming is more political
than scientific.

University of Copenhagen Professor Bjarne Andresen has analyzed the
topic in collaboration with Canadian Professors Christopher Essex from
the University of Western Ontario and Ross McKitrick of the University
of Guelph.


It is generally assumed the Earth's atmosphere and oceans have grown
warmer during the recent 50 years because of an upward trend in the so-
called global temperature, which is the result of complex calculations
and averaging of air temperature measurements taken around the world.


"It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as
complicated as the climate of Earth," said Andresen, an expert on
thermodynamics. "A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous
system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single
temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes
and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the
climate".


He says the currently used method of determining the global
temperature -- and any conclusion drawn from it -- is more political
than scientific.
 
Old Mar 15th 2007, 10:17 am
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Jerry Kraus
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On Mar 15, 5:15 pm, "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:
> COPENHAGEN, Denmark, March 15 (UPI) -- A Danish scientist said the
> idea of a "global temperature" and global warming is more political
> than scientific.
>
> University of Copenhagen Professor Bjarne Andresen has analyzed the
> topic in collaboration with Canadian Professors Christopher Essex from
> the University of Western Ontario and Ross McKitrick of the University
> of Guelph.
>
> It is generally assumed the Earth's atmosphere and oceans have grown
> warmer during the recent 50 years because of an upward trend in the so-
> called global temperature, which is the result of complex calculations
> and averaging of air temperature measurements taken around the world.
>
> "It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as
> complicated as the climate of Earth," said Andresen, an expert on
> thermodynamics. "A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous
> system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single
> temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes
> and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the
> climate".
>
> He says the currently used method of determining the global
> temperature -- and any conclusion drawn from it -- is more political
> than scientific.

Correct. Global Warming is an environmentalist myth/religion given
credibility by ambitious and unscrupulous scientists and politicians.
 
Old Mar 15th 2007, 10:19 am
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Tom Peel
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Jerry Kraus schrieb:
> On Mar 15, 5:15 pm, "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> COPENHAGEN, Denmark, March 15 (UPI) -- A Danish scientist said the
>> idea of a "global temperature" and global warming is more political
>> than scientific.
>>
>> University of Copenhagen Professor Bjarne Andresen has analyzed the
>> topic in collaboration with Canadian Professors Christopher Essex from
>> the University of Western Ontario and Ross McKitrick of the University
>> of Guelph.
>>
>> It is generally assumed the Earth's atmosphere and oceans have grown
>> warmer during the recent 50 years because of an upward trend in the so-
>> called global temperature, which is the result of complex calculations
>> and averaging of air temperature measurements taken around the world.
>>
>> "It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as
>> complicated as the climate of Earth," said Andresen, an expert on
>> thermodynamics. "A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous
>> system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single
>> temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes
>> and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the
>> climate".
>>
>> He says the currently used method of determining the global
>> temperature -- and any conclusion drawn from it -- is more political
>> than scientific.
>
> Correct. Global Warming is an environmentalist myth/religion given
> credibility by ambitious and unscrupulous scientists and politicians.
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect
 
Old Mar 15th 2007, 10:26 am
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Jerry Kraus
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On Mar 15, 5:19 pm, Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jerry Kraus schrieb:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 15, 5:15 pm, "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> COPENHAGEN, Denmark, March 15 (UPI) -- A Danish scientist said the
> >> idea of a "global temperature" and global warming is more political
> >> than scientific.
>
> >> University of Copenhagen Professor Bjarne Andresen has analyzed the
> >> topic in collaboration with Canadian Professors Christopher Essex from
> >> the University of Western Ontario and Ross McKitrick of the University
> >> of Guelph.
>
> >> It is generally assumed the Earth's atmosphere and oceans have grown
> >> warmer during the recent 50 years because of an upward trend in the so-
> >> called global temperature, which is the result of complex calculations
> >> and averaging of air temperature measurements taken around the world.
>
> >> "It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as
> >> complicated as the climate of Earth," said Andresen, an expert on
> >> thermodynamics. "A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous
> >> system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single
> >> temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes
> >> and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the
> >> climate".
>
> >> He says the currently used method of determining the global
> >> temperature -- and any conclusion drawn from it -- is more political
> >> than scientific.
>
> > Correct. Global Warming is an environmentalist myth/religion given
> > credibility by ambitious and unscrupulous scientists and politicians.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...a95b5d59f8e85c
 
Old Mar 15th 2007, 11:41 am
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leonard78sp
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On Mar 15, 6:19 pm, Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jerry Kraus schrieb:
>
> > On Mar 15, 5:15 pm, "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> COPENHAGEN, Denmark, March 15 (UPI) -- A Danish scientist said the
> >> idea of a "global temperature" and global warming is more political
> >> than scientific.
>
> >> University of Copenhagen Professor Bjarne Andresen has analyzed the
> >> topic in collaboration with Canadian Professors Christopher Essex from
> >> the University of Western Ontario and Ross McKitrick of the University
> >> of Guelph.
>
> >> It is generally assumed the Earth's atmosphere and oceans have grown
> >> warmer during the recent 50 years because of an upward trend in the so-
> >> called global temperature, which is the result of complex calculations
> >> and averaging of air temperature measurements taken around the world.
>
> >> "It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as
> >> complicated as the climate of Earth," said Andresen, an expert on
> >> thermodynamics. "A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous
> >> system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single
> >> temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes
> >> and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the
> >> climate".
>
> >> He says the currently used method of determining the global
> >> temperature -- and any conclusion drawn from it -- is more political
> >> than scientific.
>
> > Correct. Global Warming is an environmentalist myth/religion given
> > credibility by ambitious and unscrupulous scientists and politicians.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect

Wikipedia is only useful for biographic material like
births and deaths. Its science is decades passe.

- -
Befuddled Gore keeps blathering about
how the oceans are being heated by
global warming, instead of the warming
being created by the oceans, as the facts
clearly show.
 
Old Mar 15th 2007, 12:41 pm
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> On Mar 15, 6:19 pm, Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Jerry Kraus schrieb:
>>
>> > On Mar 15, 5:15 pm, "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> COPENHAGEN, Denmark, March 15 (UPI) -- A Danish scientist said the
>> >> idea of a "global temperature" and global warming is more political
>> >> than scientific.
>>
>> >> University of Copenhagen Professor Bjarne Andresen has analyzed the
>> >> topic in collaboration with Canadian Professors Christopher Essex from
>> >> the University of Western Ontario and Ross McKitrick of the University
>> >> of Guelph.
>>
>> >> It is generally assumed the Earth's atmosphere and oceans have grown
>> >> warmer during the recent 50 years because of an upward trend in the
>> >> so-
>> >> called global temperature, which is the result of complex calculations
>> >> and averaging of air temperature measurements taken around the world.
>>
>> >> "It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as
>> >> complicated as the climate of Earth," said Andresen, an expert on
>> >> thermodynamics. "A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous
>> >> system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single
>> >> temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes
>> >> and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the
>> >> climate".
>>
>> >> He says the currently used method of determining the global
>> >> temperature -- and any conclusion drawn from it -- is more political
>> >> than scientific.
>>
>> > Correct. Global Warming is an environmentalist myth/religion given
>> > credibility by ambitious and unscrupulous scientists and politicians.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect
>
> Wikipedia is only useful for biographic material like
> births and deaths. Its science is decades passe.
>
> - -
> Befuddled Gore keeps blathering about
> how the oceans are being heated by
> global warming, instead of the warming
> being created by the oceans, as the facts
> clearly show.
>

So there is warming whatever is causing it. You are no doubt sure that
humanity will overcome this particular climate change just as it has done in
previous millenniums. Our long distant forefathers overcame many a
vicissitude that would overwhelm our very interdependent society today -
that's because they were primitive and we are not. The more sophisticated
we become the more vulnerable we are to the quite common catastrophes that
this earth has suffered since the last ice age. Only the isolated and
still undeveloped few will survive the next 3 or 4 hundred years.

Always look on the bright side of life de dum de dum!
 
Old Mar 15th 2007, 1:05 pm
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"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ps.com...

The "anti- warming" people fall back on citing "some" scientists that say it
is a myth, etc. Question -- if 95% of your doctors told you that you had
late stage cancer that might respond to treatment, and 5% said you were OK
and not to worry about it, what would you do?
Goodbye Miami, Goodbye Lauderdale,
Fetch me a bucket, fetch me a pail.
Tampa is damper than ever before
And Key West ain't Key West no more.
rjf
 
Old Mar 15th 2007, 1:14 pm
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On Mar 15, 9:05?pm, "bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected] ps.com...
>
> The "anti- warming" people fall back on citing "some" scientists that say it
> is a myth, etc. Question -- if 95% of your doctors told you that you had
> late stage cancer that might respond to treatment, and 5% said you were OK
> and not to worry about it, ?what would you do?
> Goodbye Miami, Goodbye Lauderdale,
> Fetch me a bucket, fetch me a pail.
> Tampa is damper than ever before
> And Key West ain't Key West no more.
> rjf

One of two things will happen. "Global Warming" will have no effect on
our lives,
..... or ..... We are all going to die from it.


Jigsaw
 
Old Mar 15th 2007, 1:31 pm
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Mike
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> One of two things will happen. "Global Warming" will have no effect on
> our lives,
> ..... or ..... We are all going to die from it.
>

No, I think it will be in the middle. Global warming will affect
everybody, but humanity will adapt. There will certainly be struggles.
Many people will die, many species will go extinct.

Eventually the sun will die out and all life on Earth will die from Global
Cooling.
 
Old Mar 15th 2007, 1:51 pm
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"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
>
>> One of two things will happen. "Global Warming" will have no effect on
>> our lives,
>> ..... or ..... We are all going to die from it.
>>
>
> No, I think it will be in the middle. Global warming will affect
> everybody, but humanity will adapt. There will certainly be struggles.
> Many people will die, many species will go extinct.

One of the species will be the human species.


>
> Eventually the sun will die out and all life on Earth will die from Global
> Cooling.
>
>

When in five million years this event occurs the Earth will be consumed by a
much larger sun. So no cooling.
 
Old Mar 15th 2007, 10:28 pm
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On Mar 16, 1:41 am, "John Rennie" <[email protected]> wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected] oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Mar 15, 6:19 pm, Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Jerry Kraus schrieb:
>
> >> > On Mar 15, 5:15 pm, "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> COPENHAGEN, Denmark, March 15 (UPI) -- A Danish scientist said the
> >> >> idea of a "global temperature" and global warming is more political
> >> >> than scientific.
>
> >> >> University of Copenhagen Professor Bjarne Andresen has analyzed the
> >> >> topic in collaboration with Canadian Professors Christopher Essex from
> >> >> the University of Western Ontario and Ross McKitrick of the University
> >> >> of Guelph.
>
> >> >> It is generally assumed the Earth's atmosphere and oceans have grown
> >> >> warmer during the recent 50 years because of an upward trend in the
> >> >> so-
> >> >> called global temperature, which is the result of complex calculations
> >> >> and averaging of air temperature measurements taken around the world.
>
> >> >> "It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as
> >> >> complicated as the climate of Earth," said Andresen, an expert on
> >> >> thermodynamics. "A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous
> >> >> system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single
> >> >> temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes
> >> >> and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the
> >> >> climate".
>
> >> >> He says the currently used method of determining the global
> >> >> temperature -- and any conclusion drawn from it -- is more political
> >> >> than scientific.
>
> >> > Correct. Global Warming is an environmentalist myth/religion given
> >> > credibility by ambitious and unscrupulous scientists and politicians.
>
> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect
>
> > Wikipedia is only useful for biographic material like
> > births and deaths. Its science is decades passe.
>
> > - -
> > Befuddled Gore keeps blathering about
> > how the oceans are being heated by
> > global warming, instead of the warming
> > being created by the oceans, as the facts
> > clearly show.
>
> So there is warming whatever is causing it. You are no doubt sure that
> humanity will overcome this particular climate change just as it has done in
> previous millenniums. Our long distant forefathers overcame many a
> vicissitude that would overwhelm our very interdependent society today -
> that's because they were primitive and we are not. The more sophisticated
> we become the more vulnerable we are to the quite common catastrophes that
> this earth has suffered since the last ice age. Only the isolated and
> still undeveloped few will survive the next 3 or 4 hundred years.
>
> Always look on the bright side of life de dum de dum!

boat sales have increased in Belgium......
 
Old Mar 15th 2007, 11:26 pm
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On 16/03/07 11:28, in article
[email protected]. com, "Fuddy Duddy Judge"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>>>> On Mar 15, 5:15 pm, "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:


I did not, it a forged use of my name.
 
Old Mar 16th 2007, 12:11 am
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Make credence recognised that on 15 Mar 2007 15:17:29 -0700, "Jerry
Kraus" <[email protected]> has scripted:

>On Mar 15, 5:15 pm, "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> COPENHAGEN, Denmark, March 15 (UPI) -- A Danish scientist said the
>> idea of a "global temperature" and global warming is more political
>> than scientific.
>>
>> University of Copenhagen Professor Bjarne Andresen has analyzed the
>> topic in collaboration with Canadian Professors Christopher Essex from
>> the University of Western Ontario and Ross McKitrick of the University
>> of Guelph.
>>
>> It is generally assumed the Earth's atmosphere and oceans have grown
>> warmer during the recent 50 years because of an upward trend in the so-
>> called global temperature, which is the result of complex calculations
>> and averaging of air temperature measurements taken around the world.
>>
>> "It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as
>> complicated as the climate of Earth," said Andresen, an expert on
>> thermodynamics. "A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous
>> system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single
>> temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes
>> and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the
>> climate".
>>
>> He says the currently used method of determining the global
>> temperature -- and any conclusion drawn from it -- is more political
>> than scientific.
>
>Correct. Global Warming is an environmentalist myth/religion given
>credibility by ambitious and unscrupulous scientists and politicians.

Ummm... no, it's real. And please wipe your chin after talking shit.
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Old Mar 16th 2007, 12:12 am
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Make credence recognised that on Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:31:57 GMT, Mike
<[email protected]> has scripted:

>
>> One of two things will happen. "Global Warming" will have no effect on
>> our lives,
>> ..... or ..... We are all going to die from it.
>>
>
>No, I think it will be in the middle.

I don't he was being serious!
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Old Mar 16th 2007, 2:12 am
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Jerry Kraus
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On Mar 15, 8:05 pm, "bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected] ps.com...
>
> The "anti- warming" people fall back on citing "some" scientists that say it
> is a myth, etc. Question -- if 95% of your doctors told you that you had
> late stage cancer that might respond to treatment, and 5% said you were OK
> and not to worry about it, what would you do?
> Goodbye Miami, Goodbye Lauderdale,
> Fetch me a bucket, fetch me a pail.
> Tampa is damper than ever before
> And Key West ain't Key West no more.
> rjf

Few if any scientists are saying Goodbye to all the major cities in
Florida. Some are saying they aren't really sure what's going to
happen. So what? Why all the fuss?

In any case they have no solution. If the sea levels rise, we build
dykes, like the Dutch. Again, what's the problem? Why all the fuss?
 


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