The best places to get sick
Apr 17th 2005 | 2:02 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On 17/04/05 12:02, in article [email protected],
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Most cataracts are age-related and progress with extreme slowness. A
> 14-month wait is thus not necessarily a hardship; there will hardly be
> any change in vision over such a short period.
The advantage of waiting is that the patient may die of something and
cost the system nothing.
The US has no waiting list for the 40 million medically uninsured.
They get nothing anyway.
Earl
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Most cataracts are age-related and progress with extreme slowness. A
> 14-month wait is thus not necessarily a hardship; there will hardly be
> any change in vision over such a short period.
The advantage of waiting is that the patient may die of something and
cost the system nothing.
The US has no waiting list for the 40 million medically uninsured.
They get nothing anyway.
Earl
Apr 17th 2005 | 2:07 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:54:37 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Donna Evleth writes:
>> My cataracts had progressed with great speed also. I was 68, and the
>> difference between the checkup I had had just six months before and the
>> checkup I had in April 2004 was so great that the doctor felt I should have
>> the surgery soonest. So I did.
>What was the cause of the cataracts? When they develop quickly, they
>may be secondary to something else.
As you mentioned after your years of research, age.
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>Donna Evleth writes:
>> My cataracts had progressed with great speed also. I was 68, and the
>> difference between the checkup I had had just six months before and the
>> checkup I had in April 2004 was so great that the doctor felt I should have
>> the surgery soonest. So I did.
>What was the cause of the cataracts? When they develop quickly, they
>may be secondary to something else.
As you mentioned after your years of research, age.
Apr 17th 2005 | 2:17 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On 17/04/05 14:02, in article [email protected],
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Totally wrong. My sight went from -6 to -12 during the 14 month wait.
>> Something else you know SFA about.
>
> Your experience is not necessarily representative. I'm going by my
> research on the topic.
My wife said the world became less yellow after the operation!
Earl
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Totally wrong. My sight went from -6 to -12 during the 14 month wait.
>> Something else you know SFA about.
>
> Your experience is not necessarily representative. I'm going by my
> research on the topic.
My wife said the world became less yellow after the operation!
Earl
Apr 17th 2005 | 2:18 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:02:25 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 17/04/05 12:02, in article [email protected],
>"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Most cataracts are age-related and progress with extreme slowness. A
>> 14-month wait is thus not necessarily a hardship; there will hardly be
>> any change in vision over such a short period.
>The advantage of waiting is that the patient may die of something and
>cost the system nothing.
European idea of cost control, like I said.
>The US has no waiting list for the 40 million medically uninsured.
>They get nothing anyway.
Complete nonsense as usual. Being uninsured does not mean not getting
medical treatment. Medical treatment is required by Federal law at
every hospital emergency room for starters and there are plenty of
medical practicioners that give out free medical care to those who
cannot pay. The loonie left wing draft avoiding felon is back
publishing his usual lies once again. When he's not cutting and
pasting other's work, the kind of plagiarism he probably did to get
his degree.
wrote:
>On 17/04/05 12:02, in article [email protected],
>"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Most cataracts are age-related and progress with extreme slowness. A
>> 14-month wait is thus not necessarily a hardship; there will hardly be
>> any change in vision over such a short period.
>The advantage of waiting is that the patient may die of something and
>cost the system nothing.
European idea of cost control, like I said.
>The US has no waiting list for the 40 million medically uninsured.
>They get nothing anyway.
Complete nonsense as usual. Being uninsured does not mean not getting
medical treatment. Medical treatment is required by Federal law at
every hospital emergency room for starters and there are plenty of
medical practicioners that give out free medical care to those who
cannot pay. The loonie left wing draft avoiding felon is back
publishing his usual lies once again. When he's not cutting and
pasting other's work, the kind of plagiarism he probably did to get
his degree.
Apr 17th 2005 | 2:19 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On 17/04/05 14:30, in article [email protected],
"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Your experience is not necessarily representative. I'm going by my
>> research on the topic.
>
> The usual 5 seconds with google?
quit exaggerating.
Earl
"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Your experience is not necessarily representative. I'm going by my
>> research on the topic.
>
> The usual 5 seconds with google?
quit exaggerating.
Earl
Apr 17th 2005 | 2:21 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:17:46 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 17/04/05 14:02, in article [email protected],
>"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Totally wrong. My sight went from -6 to -12 during the 14 month wait.
>>> Something else you know SFA about.
>>
>> Your experience is not necessarily representative. I'm going by my
>> research on the topic.
>My wife said the world became less yellow after the operation!
The world went from being blurred to a sharp. I am willing to accept
that this may have been totally subjective. I hope this has avoided a
300 post discussion on the meaning of blurred and whether the world
stayed blurred, when I closed my eyes.
wrote:
>On 17/04/05 14:02, in article [email protected],
>"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Totally wrong. My sight went from -6 to -12 during the 14 month wait.
>>> Something else you know SFA about.
>>
>> Your experience is not necessarily representative. I'm going by my
>> research on the topic.
>My wife said the world became less yellow after the operation!
The world went from being blurred to a sharp. I am willing to accept
that this may have been totally subjective. I hope this has avoided a
300 post discussion on the meaning of blurred and whether the world
stayed blurred, when I closed my eyes.
Apr 17th 2005 | 2:23 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On 17/04/05 15:04, in article BE882B70.7F90%[email protected], "Donna
Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Maybe not, but as I reported in a previous post, my experience agrees with
> Nitram's.
>
> Donna Evleth
I support my wife, without my being prodded! As a witness,
she came through this whole thing much better off than either of us
expected, and I think that if it has to be done it is best done early
than later in old age.
Earl
Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Maybe not, but as I reported in a previous post, my experience agrees with
> Nitram's.
>
> Donna Evleth
I support my wife, without my being prodded! As a witness,
she came through this whole thing much better off than either of us
expected, and I think that if it has to be done it is best done early
than later in old age.
Earl
Apr 17th 2005 | 2:25 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
nitram writes:
> As you mentioned after your years of research, age.
Age alone will not produce cataracts suddenly over a period of months.
Age-related cataracts develop very slowly, as does age itself.
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> As you mentioned after your years of research, age.
Age alone will not produce cataracts suddenly over a period of months.
Age-related cataracts develop very slowly, as does age itself.
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Apr 17th 2005 | 2:25 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:19:12 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 17/04/05 14:30, in article [email protected],
>"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Your experience is not necessarily representative. I'm going by my
>>> research on the topic.
>>
>> The usual 5 seconds with google?
>quit exaggerating.
I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Odd that his in depth research didn't show up that around 7 or 8 years
ago the failure rate of cataract operations in the USA was alarmingly
high where as the success rate in Europe was near to 100%.
The moral of Mixis story is don't move to Europe, if you are not
properly qualified in anything and have no skills that the hosts are
wiling to pay for.
wrote:
>On 17/04/05 14:30, in article [email protected],
>"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Your experience is not necessarily representative. I'm going by my
>>> research on the topic.
>>
>> The usual 5 seconds with google?
>quit exaggerating.
I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Odd that his in depth research didn't show up that around 7 or 8 years
ago the failure rate of cataract operations in the USA was alarmingly
high where as the success rate in Europe was near to 100%.
The moral of Mixis story is don't move to Europe, if you are not
properly qualified in anything and have no skills that the hosts are
wiling to pay for.
Apr 17th 2005 | 2:28 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
Earl Evleth writes:
> My wife said the world became less yellow after the operation!
Monet felt the same way.
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> My wife said the world became less yellow after the operation!
Monet felt the same way.
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Apr 17th 2005 | 2:28 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:23:39 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 17/04/05 15:04, in article BE882B70.7F90%[email protected], "Donna
>Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Maybe not, but as I reported in a previous post, my experience agrees with
>> Nitram's.
>>
>> Donna Evleth
>I support my wife, without my being prodded! As a witness,
>she came through this whole thing much better off than either of us
>expected, and I think that if it has to be done it is best done early
>than later in old age.
Old age is for cornea transplants. :-)
wrote:
>On 17/04/05 15:04, in article BE882B70.7F90%[email protected], "Donna
>Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Maybe not, but as I reported in a previous post, my experience agrees with
>> Nitram's.
>>
>> Donna Evleth
>I support my wife, without my being prodded! As a witness,
>she came through this whole thing much better off than either of us
>expected, and I think that if it has to be done it is best done early
>than later in old age.
Old age is for cornea transplants. :-)
Apr 17th 2005 | 2:28 am
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nitram writes:
> The world went from being blurred to a sharp. I am willing to accept
> that this may have been totally subjective.
It is typical for cataract patients after surgery, and it can be
objectively verified.
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> The world went from being blurred to a sharp. I am willing to accept
> that this may have been totally subjective.
It is typical for cataract patients after surgery, and it can be
objectively verified.
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Apr 17th 2005 | 2:30 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:25:19 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>nitram writes:
>> As you mentioned after your years of research, age.
>Age alone will not produce cataracts suddenly over a period of months.
>Age-related cataracts develop very slowly, as does age itself.
More bull shit.
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>nitram writes:
>> As you mentioned after your years of research, age.
>Age alone will not produce cataracts suddenly over a period of months.
>Age-related cataracts develop very slowly, as does age itself.
More bull shit.
Apr 17th 2005 | 2:33 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:28:42 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>nitram writes:
>> The world went from being blurred to a sharp. I am willing to accept
>> that this may have been totally subjective.
>It is typical for cataract patients after surgery, and it can be
>objectively verified.
Where's the smiley that your remark needs?
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>nitram writes:
>> The world went from being blurred to a sharp. I am willing to accept
>> that this may have been totally subjective.
>It is typical for cataract patients after surgery, and it can be
>objectively verified.
Where's the smiley that your remark needs?
Apr 17th 2005 | 2:35 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On 17/04/05 15:54, in article [email protected],
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> What was the cause of the cataracts? When they develop quickly, they
> may be secondary to something else.
Nobody quite knows, generally it has been blamed on exposure to UV-B.
I think the hardening of tissue slows down the diffusion of oxygen
and the tissue dies. That tissue is normally not furnished with
blood oxygen but gets it from the air.
If I remember correctly the fluorescence comes from cross-linked
tryptophane in the proteins, this absorbs and reradiates light.
That gives the obsolesced effect.
But in fact the cause seems unknown. I would bet on metabolism
changes, different for different people of the same age. Nobody
has learned to combat it, I would bet on some sort of tissue
softening to be partly effective. It is irreversible.
Our dog has an evolving problem with his corneas which in fact
looks like cataracts but eye drops have stopped its further
development. Ironically the medicine used is not approved for
human use, so it goes to the dogs.
Earl
Earl
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> What was the cause of the cataracts? When they develop quickly, they
> may be secondary to something else.
Nobody quite knows, generally it has been blamed on exposure to UV-B.
I think the hardening of tissue slows down the diffusion of oxygen
and the tissue dies. That tissue is normally not furnished with
blood oxygen but gets it from the air.
If I remember correctly the fluorescence comes from cross-linked
tryptophane in the proteins, this absorbs and reradiates light.
That gives the obsolesced effect.
But in fact the cause seems unknown. I would bet on metabolism
changes, different for different people of the same age. Nobody
has learned to combat it, I would bet on some sort of tissue
softening to be partly effective. It is irreversible.
Our dog has an evolving problem with his corneas which in fact
looks like cataracts but eye drops have stopped its further
development. Ironically the medicine used is not approved for
human use, so it goes to the dogs.
Earl
Earl
