The best places to get sick
Apr 16th 2005 | 6:17 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:22:09 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 16/04/05 17:39, in article [email protected], "The Rev
>Gaston" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> JBK is intellectually dishonest, which is why he uses insults in the place
>>> of arguments. He can't stand up and argue like a "man".
>>
>> That's why most of us have kill-filed him.
>I do this after a point, but mainly to see him twist slowly in the wind.
Right. Bothers me no end you fat ass 4F draft avoiding felon.
HAHAHAHA!
>He comes on this group when he is in the hyper mode of his bipolar
>condition. This lasts for a week and he evaporates for a couple of weeks.
>He has some sort of mental health problem and tries to share it with us.
>Earl
Hey! The self-appointed fat ass effete snob is now an expert in yet
another subject he knows nothing about! Soon, he will be posting
blather from his sources, like Mengele and Kevorkian! HAHAHAHA!
wrote:
>On 16/04/05 17:39, in article [email protected], "The Rev
>Gaston" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> JBK is intellectually dishonest, which is why he uses insults in the place
>>> of arguments. He can't stand up and argue like a "man".
>>
>> That's why most of us have kill-filed him.
>I do this after a point, but mainly to see him twist slowly in the wind.
Right. Bothers me no end you fat ass 4F draft avoiding felon.
HAHAHAHA!
>He comes on this group when he is in the hyper mode of his bipolar
>condition. This lasts for a week and he evaporates for a couple of weeks.
>He has some sort of mental health problem and tries to share it with us.
>Earl
Hey! The self-appointed fat ass effete snob is now an expert in yet
another subject he knows nothing about! Soon, he will be posting
blather from his sources, like Mengele and Kevorkian! HAHAHAHA!
Apr 16th 2005 | 6:19 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:35:37 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Earl Evleth [on Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:28:44 +0200] wrote:
>> so give us a list of European countries which do have a waiting list
>> and how long the wait is for each time of medical treatment.
>That doesn't appear to be a fair request, because waiting lists are
>different between hospitals for various medical treatments.
>Here's a Dutch website showing waiting lists. Even if you don't
>understand Dutch, you'll see that there is no such thing as "average
>waiting list size".
><http://www.rivm.nl/vtv/object_class/atl_wchtziekenhuiszorg.html>
Of course, you are right, just as you can't compare statistics between
countries like Evleth and Krugman are trying to do, because they are
not comparable for any number of reasons. But that, of course, is not
his agenda. His agenda is to try endlessly to slander and libel his
own country--all while violating its laws and taking its money to live
off of in France. Completely contemptible isn't he?
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Earl Evleth [on Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:28:44 +0200] wrote:
>> so give us a list of European countries which do have a waiting list
>> and how long the wait is for each time of medical treatment.
>That doesn't appear to be a fair request, because waiting lists are
>different between hospitals for various medical treatments.
>Here's a Dutch website showing waiting lists. Even if you don't
>understand Dutch, you'll see that there is no such thing as "average
>waiting list size".
><http://www.rivm.nl/vtv/object_class/atl_wchtziekenhuiszorg.html>
Of course, you are right, just as you can't compare statistics between
countries like Evleth and Krugman are trying to do, because they are
not comparable for any number of reasons. But that, of course, is not
his agenda. His agenda is to try endlessly to slander and libel his
own country--all while violating its laws and taking its money to live
off of in France. Completely contemptible isn't he?
Apr 16th 2005 | 6:26 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:19:27 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 16/04/05 17:35, in article [email protected],
>"Erick T. Barkhuis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Earl Evleth [on Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:28:44 +0200] wrote:
>>
>>> so give us a list of European countries which do have a waiting list
>>> and how long the wait is for each time of medical treatment.
>>
>> That doesn't appear to be a fair request, because waiting lists are
>> different between hospitals for various medical treatments.
>> Here's a Dutch website showing waiting lists. Even if you don't
>> understand Dutch, you'll see that there is no such thing as "average
>> waiting list size".
>>
>> <http://www.rivm.nl/vtv/object_class/atl_wchtziekenhuiszorg.html>
>I looked it over but could not understand the map.
Never had map reading in your 4F classes? HAHAHA!
>The problem with JBK is that he made a blanket claim and then
>did not back it up with facts. What one wants to know is whether
>waiting lists are medically important. There are optional procedures.
>Is waiting for a breast implant a big deal?
Never mind that it was YOU and Krugman making the blanket claim which
you can't support moron. And if you are so dumb that you can't even
understand that being on a waiting list for heart surgery is just
about as serious as it gets, then go talk to the doctors in the UK
talking about so many patients dying on the list. Gee. Let's see.
Is it medically important if they die on the list? Oh, that's right,
according to you, you can substitute a breast implant for a heart
transplant. Moron.
>Do delays effect the quality of delivery of medical services? We know in
>the USA what the effect of rationing is, a lower longevity, higher infant
>mortality rates, a balkanized system of care which is 50% more expensive
>than anywhere else. And administrative costs so high as to make one
>wonder.
No, of course not. Every one knows that preventive healthcare is not
important, which is why all the HMOs in the US promote and pay for it.
They're doing that for fun and to lower their profits. And only
uniformed morons like you wonder about the US system, which has the
technoligically advanced medical system in the world, 90% of the drug
R and D, and all the rest. I don't see anyone hear running off to
France to have their heart transplant moron.
>The critical question to you then is whether delays are a big issue?
Which anyone with a brain listening to UK surgeons talking about
patients dying on the list would know with no problem. Of course,
they know that you can't replace a heart transplant with a breast
implant which is beyond you. Funny how you like to make these
distinctions while you like to lump all your phony irrelevant
statistics together if it allows you to libel someone isn't it?
wrote:
>On 16/04/05 17:35, in article [email protected],
>"Erick T. Barkhuis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Earl Evleth [on Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:28:44 +0200] wrote:
>>
>>> so give us a list of European countries which do have a waiting list
>>> and how long the wait is for each time of medical treatment.
>>
>> That doesn't appear to be a fair request, because waiting lists are
>> different between hospitals for various medical treatments.
>> Here's a Dutch website showing waiting lists. Even if you don't
>> understand Dutch, you'll see that there is no such thing as "average
>> waiting list size".
>>
>> <http://www.rivm.nl/vtv/object_class/atl_wchtziekenhuiszorg.html>
>I looked it over but could not understand the map.
Never had map reading in your 4F classes? HAHAHA!
>The problem with JBK is that he made a blanket claim and then
>did not back it up with facts. What one wants to know is whether
>waiting lists are medically important. There are optional procedures.
>Is waiting for a breast implant a big deal?
Never mind that it was YOU and Krugman making the blanket claim which
you can't support moron. And if you are so dumb that you can't even
understand that being on a waiting list for heart surgery is just
about as serious as it gets, then go talk to the doctors in the UK
talking about so many patients dying on the list. Gee. Let's see.
Is it medically important if they die on the list? Oh, that's right,
according to you, you can substitute a breast implant for a heart
transplant. Moron.
>Do delays effect the quality of delivery of medical services? We know in
>the USA what the effect of rationing is, a lower longevity, higher infant
>mortality rates, a balkanized system of care which is 50% more expensive
>than anywhere else. And administrative costs so high as to make one
>wonder.
No, of course not. Every one knows that preventive healthcare is not
important, which is why all the HMOs in the US promote and pay for it.
They're doing that for fun and to lower their profits. And only
uniformed morons like you wonder about the US system, which has the
technoligically advanced medical system in the world, 90% of the drug
R and D, and all the rest. I don't see anyone hear running off to
France to have their heart transplant moron.
>The critical question to you then is whether delays are a big issue?
Which anyone with a brain listening to UK surgeons talking about
patients dying on the list would know with no problem. Of course,
they know that you can't replace a heart transplant with a breast
implant which is beyond you. Funny how you like to make these
distinctions while you like to lump all your phony irrelevant
statistics together if it allows you to libel someone isn't it?
Apr 16th 2005 | 6:29 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
jbk [on Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:19:39 -0400] wrote:
[about Earl Evleth]
> His agenda is to try endlessly to slander and libel his
> own country--all while violating its laws and taking its money to live
> off of in France. Completely contemptible isn't he?
Suppose you were right about that, then why would you care?
You have just taken the time to post about five or six contributions in
which you complain about fellow newgroup denizens.
Suppose you visited a bar on a regular basis and all you meet are
horrible people...would you fight them, or simply find another bar,
frequented by people of your liking?
--
Low Countries By Bike - http://lowcountriesbybike.info
Riding on two wheels in Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany
[about Earl Evleth]
> His agenda is to try endlessly to slander and libel his
> own country--all while violating its laws and taking its money to live
> off of in France. Completely contemptible isn't he?
Suppose you were right about that, then why would you care?
You have just taken the time to post about five or six contributions in
which you complain about fellow newgroup denizens.
Suppose you visited a bar on a regular basis and all you meet are
horrible people...would you fight them, or simply find another bar,
frequented by people of your liking?
--
Low Countries By Bike - http://lowcountriesbybike.info
Riding on two wheels in Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany
Apr 16th 2005 | 6:30 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:28:51 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Earl Evleth [on Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:19:27 +0200] wrote:
>> The critical question to you then is whether delays are a big issue?
>Since we're talking about delays in _medical_ service, I would generally
>say 'yes'. Even in cases where the illness is not life threatening, a
>delay at least causes:
>- emotional damage to the patient
>- additional costs for compensating drugs
>- additional costs because the patient can't fullfill his (job?
>voluntary?) obligations
>...just to name a few things that come to mind.
>With due respect, I will agree that certain delays are 'no big deal'. But
>in that case, I wouldn't describe the need for such treatment as "being
>sick" (which is what this thread's subject line refers to).
Also correct. And, of course, Evleth doesn't want to address the
issue in these systems, which Krugman also doesn't raise, about them
allocating the same care to younger patients that older ones also need
because they will benefit from it longer. Nevermind that the older
patient through his or her life has almost always paid more for it
over his or her liftime than the younger one. Example being a hip
replacement which exactly fits your description above. Not life
threatening but makes your life miserable if you don't get it.
Another benefit of these government run systems.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Earl Evleth [on Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:19:27 +0200] wrote:
>> The critical question to you then is whether delays are a big issue?
>Since we're talking about delays in _medical_ service, I would generally
>say 'yes'. Even in cases where the illness is not life threatening, a
>delay at least causes:
>- emotional damage to the patient
>- additional costs for compensating drugs
>- additional costs because the patient can't fullfill his (job?
>voluntary?) obligations
>...just to name a few things that come to mind.
>With due respect, I will agree that certain delays are 'no big deal'. But
>in that case, I wouldn't describe the need for such treatment as "being
>sick" (which is what this thread's subject line refers to).
Also correct. And, of course, Evleth doesn't want to address the
issue in these systems, which Krugman also doesn't raise, about them
allocating the same care to younger patients that older ones also need
because they will benefit from it longer. Nevermind that the older
patient through his or her life has almost always paid more for it
over his or her liftime than the younger one. Example being a hip
replacement which exactly fits your description above. Not life
threatening but makes your life miserable if you don't get it.
Another benefit of these government run systems.
Apr 16th 2005 | 6:31 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:00:46 GMT, Deep Foiled Malls
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:21:45 +0200, [email protected] (Luca Logi) wrote:
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>> You
>>> and he conveniently fail to point out that the vast majority of drug
>>> and technological research and development is included in these costs
>>> that the others benefit from and don't have to pay for don't you?
>>How do the Swiss manage to have a lot of technological research at some
>>of the largest drug factories in the world, and at the same time a
>>(mainly private) health care system, much cheaper and efficient than the
>>US one?
Uhh, because they are doing the same thing as the US drug companies
and shifting the costs to the US? While subsidizing theirs?
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:21:45 +0200, [email protected] (Luca Logi) wrote:
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>> You
>>> and he conveniently fail to point out that the vast majority of drug
>>> and technological research and development is included in these costs
>>> that the others benefit from and don't have to pay for don't you?
>>How do the Swiss manage to have a lot of technological research at some
>>of the largest drug factories in the world, and at the same time a
>>(mainly private) health care system, much cheaper and efficient than the
>>US one?
Uhh, because they are doing the same thing as the US drug companies
and shifting the costs to the US? While subsidizing theirs?
Apr 16th 2005 | 7:11 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:14:46 +0200, Magda <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:23:40 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... On 16/04/05 18:09, in article [email protected],
> ... "Magda" <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ... > .. That's why most of us have kill-filed him.
> ... >
> ... > Please, Earl, join us !
> ...
> ...
> ... I don't kill file him, I kill him intellectually.
>He is so stupid he is already dead.
>Your job is done.
Oooh. Another terrifying statement from the Maggot. When she isn't
wishing that Bush would die which is her normal mode.
wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:23:40 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... On 16/04/05 18:09, in article [email protected],
> ... "Magda" <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ... > .. That's why most of us have kill-filed him.
> ... >
> ... > Please, Earl, join us !
> ...
> ...
> ... I don't kill file him, I kill him intellectually.
>He is so stupid he is already dead.
>Your job is done.
Oooh. Another terrifying statement from the Maggot. When she isn't
wishing that Bush would die which is her normal mode.
Apr 16th 2005 | 7:11 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
> From: [email protected]
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 10:32:02 -0400
> Subject: Re: The best places to get sick
>
> Because it has tons of illegal immigrants that Europe doesn't have.
> Because it has a much more diverse population that Europe has which
> unsurprisingly mimics the world at large which if you bothered tracing
> back you would find that the US on average provides much better care
> than they get where they came from. Because lots of these people
> refuse to get the care that is available to them. Among a myriad of
> other reasons moron.
Europe doesn't have tons of illegal immigrants????? You don't know anything
about France, do you?
Another question? Why are conservatives like yourself always so rude and
nasty? Why do you call names like "nutcase" and "moron"? You conservatives
ought to be happy. You are in absolute control of the most powerful country
in the world. Yet to hear the way you talk to those whom you don't agree
with (currently powerless) one would think that you are suffering from a
permanent, acute stomachache. I can't think of anything else that would
make you so disagreeable when you ought to be blissful.
Donna Evleth
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 10:32:02 -0400
> Subject: Re: The best places to get sick
>
> Because it has tons of illegal immigrants that Europe doesn't have.
> Because it has a much more diverse population that Europe has which
> unsurprisingly mimics the world at large which if you bothered tracing
> back you would find that the US on average provides much better care
> than they get where they came from. Because lots of these people
> refuse to get the care that is available to them. Among a myriad of
> other reasons moron.
Europe doesn't have tons of illegal immigrants????? You don't know anything
about France, do you?
Another question? Why are conservatives like yourself always so rude and
nasty? Why do you call names like "nutcase" and "moron"? You conservatives
ought to be happy. You are in absolute control of the most powerful country
in the world. Yet to hear the way you talk to those whom you don't agree
with (currently powerless) one would think that you are suffering from a
permanent, acute stomachache. I can't think of anything else that would
make you so disagreeable when you ought to be blissful.
Donna Evleth
Apr 16th 2005 | 7:15 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
> From: [email protected]
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:08:35 -0400
> Subject: Re: The best places to get sick
>
> you are nothing but a mindless cut and paste artist.
You are just plain mindless.
*PLONK*
Donna Evleth
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:08:35 -0400
> Subject: Re: The best places to get sick
>
> you are nothing but a mindless cut and paste artist.
You are just plain mindless.
*PLONK*
Donna Evleth
Apr 16th 2005 | 7:16 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
> From: [email protected]
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:14:34 -0400
> Subject: Re: The best places to get sick
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:14:34 -0400
> Subject: Re: The best places to get sick
>
>
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Apr 16th 2005 | 7:17 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
> From: [email protected]
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:14:10 -0400
> Subject: Re: The best places to get sick
>
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:39:59 +0200, The Rev Gaston <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2005-04-16 17:32:02 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]> said:
>>
>>> On 16/04/05 16:42, in article [email protected],
>>> "Erick T. Barkhuis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> jbk had a nice chat with Earl Evleth:
>>>>
>>>>> moron
>>>>> idiot like you he is a left wing nutbar
>>>>> some dumbell like you
>>>>> moron
>>>>> you're too dumb to know ...
>>>>
>>>> I'm in need of some genuine pieces of U.S. text for education purposes.
>>>> Would you allow me to use your contribution?
>>>
>>>
>>> JBK is intellectually dishonest, which is why he uses insults in the place
>>> of arguments. He can't stand up and argue like a "man".
>>
>> That's why most of us have kill-filed him.
>>
>> G;
>
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> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:14:10 -0400
> Subject: Re: The best places to get sick
>
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:39:59 +0200, The Rev Gaston <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2005-04-16 17:32:02 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]> said:
>>
>>> On 16/04/05 16:42, in article [email protected],
>>> "Erick T. Barkhuis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> jbk had a nice chat with Earl Evleth:
>>>>
>>>>> moron
>>>>> idiot like you he is a left wing nutbar
>>>>> some dumbell like you
>>>>> moron
>>>>> you're too dumb to know ...
>>>>
>>>> I'm in need of some genuine pieces of U.S. text for education purposes.
>>>> Would you allow me to use your contribution?
>>>
>>>
>>> JBK is intellectually dishonest, which is why he uses insults in the place
>>> of arguments. He can't stand up and argue like a "man".
>>
>> That's why most of us have kill-filed him.
>>
>> G;
>
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Apr 16th 2005 | 7:21 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:29:35 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
<[email protected]> wrote:
>jbk [on Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:19:39 -0400] wrote:
>[about Earl Evleth]
>> His agenda is to try endlessly to slander and libel his
>> own country--all while violating its laws and taking its money to live
>> off of in France. Completely contemptible isn't he?
>Suppose you were right about that, then why would you care?
Because I don't like liars like him spewing their filth all over the
internet. Especially when they purport to be citizens. I would
expect any responsible person from whatever country to reasonably
defend his or hers. Why shouldn't their lies be shown for what they
are? Would you not do the same for your country? He is particularly
reprehensible because he criticizes the military in which he never
served and outright avoided. He could have served in an alternative
service which he did not. Do you respect him?
>You have just taken the time to post about five or six contributions in
>which you complain about fellow newgroup denizens.
>Suppose you visited a bar on a regular basis and all you meet are
>horrible people...would you fight them, or simply find another bar,
>frequented by people of your liking?
This is hardly the same thing. A bunch or people sitting around in a
bar, whatever they are saying, is not an open group with worldwide
circulation. And I don't care about people agreeing with me or not.
That is up for them to decide on their own. My aim is to counteract
these people and let who read what is posted judge for themselves. It
is not to convince these clowns that I am right and they are wrong.
They are fair too brainwashed for that and I am not into Sysphean
tasks. I don't know how long you have been looking at this group, but
several of these people are beyond contempt. Both Magda and Evelyn at
various times, for example, have outright wished physical harm to
Bush. Does that meet your test of acceptable discourse? Not mine.
And I would do the same blasting of the nutbars on the right, but they
rarely show up here.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>jbk [on Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:19:39 -0400] wrote:
>[about Earl Evleth]
>> His agenda is to try endlessly to slander and libel his
>> own country--all while violating its laws and taking its money to live
>> off of in France. Completely contemptible isn't he?
>Suppose you were right about that, then why would you care?
Because I don't like liars like him spewing their filth all over the
internet. Especially when they purport to be citizens. I would
expect any responsible person from whatever country to reasonably
defend his or hers. Why shouldn't their lies be shown for what they
are? Would you not do the same for your country? He is particularly
reprehensible because he criticizes the military in which he never
served and outright avoided. He could have served in an alternative
service which he did not. Do you respect him?
>You have just taken the time to post about five or six contributions in
>which you complain about fellow newgroup denizens.
>Suppose you visited a bar on a regular basis and all you meet are
>horrible people...would you fight them, or simply find another bar,
>frequented by people of your liking?
This is hardly the same thing. A bunch or people sitting around in a
bar, whatever they are saying, is not an open group with worldwide
circulation. And I don't care about people agreeing with me or not.
That is up for them to decide on their own. My aim is to counteract
these people and let who read what is posted judge for themselves. It
is not to convince these clowns that I am right and they are wrong.
They are fair too brainwashed for that and I am not into Sysphean
tasks. I don't know how long you have been looking at this group, but
several of these people are beyond contempt. Both Magda and Evelyn at
various times, for example, have outright wished physical harm to
Bush. Does that meet your test of acceptable discourse? Not mine.
And I would do the same blasting of the nutbars on the right, but they
rarely show up here.
Apr 16th 2005 | 7:23 am
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Re: The best places to get sick
> From: [email protected]
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:17:18 -0400
> Subject: Re: The best places to get sick
>
> Right. Bothers me no end you fat ass 4F draft avoiding felon.
> HAHAHAHA!
The above is outright slander.
For those who might not know what 4F means, it means that the person in
question was not drafted into the army because of a physical disability. It
does not mean draft avoidance, and it certainly does not make one a felon.
I am in the process of plonking you, but I could not let this one go by.
You, sir, are the best example of an anti-American that I have ever seen.
Americans are a warm, generous, friendly people, with kind hearts. None of
this even remotely describes you. You are hateful and nasty. All the
things that real Americans are not.
Donna Evleth
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:17:18 -0400
> Subject: Re: The best places to get sick
>
> Right. Bothers me no end you fat ass 4F draft avoiding felon.
> HAHAHAHA!
The above is outright slander.
For those who might not know what 4F means, it means that the person in
question was not drafted into the army because of a physical disability. It
does not mean draft avoidance, and it certainly does not make one a felon.
I am in the process of plonking you, but I could not let this one go by.
You, sir, are the best example of an anti-American that I have ever seen.
Americans are a warm, generous, friendly people, with kind hearts. None of
this even remotely describes you. You are hateful and nasty. All the
things that real Americans are not.
Donna Evleth
Apr 16th 2005 | 7:34 am
#44
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Re: The best places to get sick
jbk [on Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:21:41 -0400] wrote:
> I don't know how long you have been looking at this group,
Not for too long, I must confess. I've been lurking a bit, and posting
just a couple of short messages.
When I put this group into my Gravity list of newsgroups, I expected to
see contributions about travelling in Europe. It's one of my website's
topics, so I thought I would read more about it here. I hoped to get
inspired, informed and educated by people who have seen much more than I
have.
Instead, I found hundreds of contributions about:
> several of these people are beyond contempt. Both Magda and Evelyn at
> various times, for example, have outright wished physical harm to
> Bush. Does that meet your test of acceptable discourse? Not mine.
Not mine, either. Regardless of whether I like Mr. Bush's policy or not.
But if everyone would try and stay more-or-less on-topic in this
newsgroup, wouldn't such discourse disappears all by itself?
> And I would do the same blasting of the nutbars on the right, but they
> rarely show up here.
Blasting of nutbars has nothing to do with talking about travelling in
Europe, I believe.
Would you like to engage in an experiment? Let's just see what happens if
you refrained from calling anybody a 'moron' for a week. The tone of the
conversation in this group might drastically change in a direction you
claim to desire!
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Riding on two wheels in Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany
> I don't know how long you have been looking at this group,
Not for too long, I must confess. I've been lurking a bit, and posting
just a couple of short messages.
When I put this group into my Gravity list of newsgroups, I expected to
see contributions about travelling in Europe. It's one of my website's
topics, so I thought I would read more about it here. I hoped to get
inspired, informed and educated by people who have seen much more than I
have.
Instead, I found hundreds of contributions about:
> several of these people are beyond contempt. Both Magda and Evelyn at
> various times, for example, have outright wished physical harm to
> Bush. Does that meet your test of acceptable discourse? Not mine.
Not mine, either. Regardless of whether I like Mr. Bush's policy or not.
But if everyone would try and stay more-or-less on-topic in this
newsgroup, wouldn't such discourse disappears all by itself?
> And I would do the same blasting of the nutbars on the right, but they
> rarely show up here.
Blasting of nutbars has nothing to do with talking about travelling in
Europe, I believe.
Would you like to engage in an experiment? Let's just see what happens if
you refrained from calling anybody a 'moron' for a week. The tone of the
conversation in this group might drastically change in a direction you
claim to desire!
--
Low Countries By Bike - http://lowcountriesbybike.info
Riding on two wheels in Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany
Apr 16th 2005 | 7:39 am
#45
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Re: The best places to get sick
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Uhh, because they are doing the same thing as the US drug companies
> and shifting the costs to the US? While subsidizing theirs?
it looks that in your opinion US people are really dense :-)
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Luca Logi - Firenze - Italy e-mail: [email protected]
> Uhh, because they are doing the same thing as the US drug companies
> and shifting the costs to the US? While subsidizing theirs?
it looks that in your opinion US people are really dense :-)
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Luca Logi - Firenze - Italy e-mail: [email protected]
