B&B Etiquette question -- Need to understand the British perspective
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"Office Manager" wrote in message
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> On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:25:37 -0000, "Miss L.Toe" wrote:
> >>So how did they split your fare ?
> No idea, it was pre-paid
> >>And how much did they argue against the extra cost of the en-route
stopover
> As far as I can remember I didn't tell the office about the stop-over,
> so they were never charged.
> The usual practice here is if you offered lunch by a passenger, we
> dont tell the office.
So you don't get to pay tax on it :-)
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> On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:25:37 -0000, "Miss L.Toe" wrote:
> >>So how did they split your fare ?
> No idea, it was pre-paid
> >>And how much did they argue against the extra cost of the en-route
stopover
> As far as I can remember I didn't tell the office about the stop-over,
> so they were never charged.
> The usual practice here is if you offered lunch by a passenger, we
> dont tell the office.
So you don't get to pay tax on it :-)
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 17:30:01 -0000, "Miss L.Toe" wrote:
>>So you don't get to pay tax on it :-)
That thought never occurred to any of us, we usually dont tell the
office, because if they are offering us a free lunch, its not fair to
charge the passenger the extra time.
You know most of us dont do this for the money (of course it helps)
but because we are people people, if you see what i mean
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>>So you don't get to pay tax on it :-)
That thought never occurred to any of us, we usually dont tell the
office, because if they are offering us a free lunch, its not fair to
charge the passenger the extra time.
You know most of us dont do this for the money (of course it helps)
but because we are people people, if you see what i mean
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On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 04:26:20 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
>> [email protected] (P J Wallace) wrote:
>>> Would I be right in thinking this guy was also keeping a meticulous
>>> tally of who ordered what in every restaurant, who paid out more on
>>> petrol, and so on?
>> What's wrong with that? I do that everytime I travel with a group
>> of friends.
>Have those groups grown smaller over the years?
No. After the last trip I got complaints because it took me almost a
month to get the accounts done (I had brought my notes to work, but
was busy there, the next weekend I was out the country again, and then
came Christmas and all that stuff).
I've read this thread and I'm as confused as when I started. What is
the problem here? Having everyone pay for their own consumption seems
both obvious and fair. I don't want to pay for their meals, and I
don't want them to pay for mine. It's simple, get the bill, put
initials on the entries, note who paid and leave. That's it. Neither
haggling, dividing by N or throwing money at cars, are involved.
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>Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
>> [email protected] (P J Wallace) wrote:
>>> Would I be right in thinking this guy was also keeping a meticulous
>>> tally of who ordered what in every restaurant, who paid out more on
>>> petrol, and so on?
>> What's wrong with that? I do that everytime I travel with a group
>> of friends.
>Have those groups grown smaller over the years?
No. After the last trip I got complaints because it took me almost a
month to get the accounts done (I had brought my notes to work, but
was busy there, the next weekend I was out the country again, and then
came Christmas and all that stuff).
I've read this thread and I'm as confused as when I started. What is
the problem here? Having everyone pay for their own consumption seems
both obvious and fair. I don't want to pay for their meals, and I
don't want them to pay for mine. It's simple, get the bill, put
initials on the entries, note who paid and leave. That's it. Neither
haggling, dividing by N or throwing money at cars, are involved.
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Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> I've read this thread and I'm as confused as when I started. What is
> the problem here? Having everyone pay for their own consumption seems
> both obvious and fair. I don't want to pay for their meals, and I
> don't want them to pay for mine. It's simple, get the bill, put
> initials on the entries, note who paid and leave. That's it. Neither
> haggling, dividing by N or throwing money at cars, are involved.
The time spent on all this recordkeeping could often be spent more
producively working a part-time job at McDonald's or something - earning
more money than the potential discrepancy from a faulty on-the-scene
estimate.
Also, in the same way that it's pleasant to pick up the bar tab with a group
of friends, knowing that (A) you've saved them the trouble and lightened
their load, if only for a short time, and (B) over the long run it'll all
even out anyway - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with your
friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner and be
done with it.
Doing all this accounting and sending everyone bills in the mail and turning
them over to collection services after 30 days makes a friendly evening
into a business transaction.
miguel
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> I've read this thread and I'm as confused as when I started. What is
> the problem here? Having everyone pay for their own consumption seems
> both obvious and fair. I don't want to pay for their meals, and I
> don't want them to pay for mine. It's simple, get the bill, put
> initials on the entries, note who paid and leave. That's it. Neither
> haggling, dividing by N or throwing money at cars, are involved.
The time spent on all this recordkeeping could often be spent more
producively working a part-time job at McDonald's or something - earning
more money than the potential discrepancy from a faulty on-the-scene
estimate.
Also, in the same way that it's pleasant to pick up the bar tab with a group
of friends, knowing that (A) you've saved them the trouble and lightened
their load, if only for a short time, and (B) over the long run it'll all
even out anyway - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with your
friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner and be
done with it.
Doing all this accounting and sending everyone bills in the mail and turning
them over to collection services after 30 days makes a friendly evening
into a business transaction.
miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
Latest addition: 80 photos from Guatemala
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> Also, in the same way that it's pleasant to pick up the bar tab with a
group
> of friends, knowing that (A) you've saved them the trouble and lightened
> their load, if only for a short time, and (B) over the long run it'll all
> even out anyway - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with your
> friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner and
be
> done with it.
> Doing all this accounting and sending everyone bills in the mail and
turning
> them over to collection services after 30 days makes a friendly evening
> into a business transaction.
No - doing it for a business transaction you just charge it back to the
expense account - much more civilised :-)
group
> of friends, knowing that (A) you've saved them the trouble and lightened
> their load, if only for a short time, and (B) over the long run it'll all
> even out anyway - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with your
> friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner and
be
> done with it.
> Doing all this accounting and sending everyone bills in the mail and
turning
> them over to collection services after 30 days makes a friendly evening
> into a business transaction.
No - doing it for a business transaction you just charge it back to the
expense account - much more civilised :-)
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Barbara Vaughan wrote in message news:...
> David wrote:
> >
> > LoL!
> >
> > IME there is always someone in a travelling group whose insists on
> > totting-up every cent and expects their expediture to be total/n where
> > n is the number of people. Yawn...
>
> It's almost as bad as when two people both insist on picking up the tab
> and neither will give in. My sister once got into a tussle that lasted
> all the way to the parking lot, and ended with her throwing the money in
> the other person's car window. I tried to pretend I wasn't with them.
>
> Barbara
"There are only two kinds of people that are important. People that
can help you , and people that want to give you money..."
That common sense aside, this is common practice among warring
spouses. Its a attempt to demonstrate control and is incredibly stupid
:-)
Dave
> David wrote:
> >
> > LoL!
> >
> > IME there is always someone in a travelling group whose insists on
> > totting-up every cent and expects their expediture to be total/n where
> > n is the number of people. Yawn...
>
> It's almost as bad as when two people both insist on picking up the tab
> and neither will give in. My sister once got into a tussle that lasted
> all the way to the parking lot, and ended with her throwing the money in
> the other person's car window. I tried to pretend I wasn't with them.
>
> Barbara
"There are only two kinds of people that are important. People that
can help you , and people that want to give you money..."
That common sense aside, this is common practice among warring
spouses. Its a attempt to demonstrate control and is incredibly stupid
:-)
Dave
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Assuming normal distribution of individual drink tabs which doesnt
change on each evening out, the total bill variance will be a function
of
1/sqrt(n)*individual variance.
If this stats BS is not your thang allow me to clarify:
If you drink with many buddies regularly (a good thing) you will drink
heavily if buying rounds (usually a good thing) and this has an
additional benefit: it adds predictability to the likely range of
_your_ tab when the fateful evening comes (a good thing). So taking
turns to pay an all-round good thing.
Ipso facto Audi Quattro.
Dave.
>
> Also, in the same way that it's pleasant to pick up the bar tab with a group
> of friends, knowing that (A) you've saved them the trouble and lightened
> their load, if only for a short time, and (B) over the long run it'll all
> even out anyway - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with your
> friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner and be
> done with it.
>
> Doing all this accounting and sending everyone bills in the mail and turning
> them over to collection services after 30 days makes a friendly evening
> into a business transaction.
>
> miguel
change on each evening out, the total bill variance will be a function
of
1/sqrt(n)*individual variance.
If this stats BS is not your thang allow me to clarify:
If you drink with many buddies regularly (a good thing) you will drink
heavily if buying rounds (usually a good thing) and this has an
additional benefit: it adds predictability to the likely range of
_your_ tab when the fateful evening comes (a good thing). So taking
turns to pay an all-round good thing.
Ipso facto Audi Quattro.
Dave.
>
> Also, in the same way that it's pleasant to pick up the bar tab with a group
> of friends, knowing that (A) you've saved them the trouble and lightened
> their load, if only for a short time, and (B) over the long run it'll all
> even out anyway - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with your
> friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner and be
> done with it.
>
> Doing all this accounting and sending everyone bills in the mail and turning
> them over to collection services after 30 days makes a friendly evening
> into a business transaction.
>
> miguel
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..nor any fun on the evening whatsoever , I'll wager ;-)
Not a .nl or .ch suffix in sight either...
Dave
>
> I've read this thread and I'm as confused as when I started. What is
> the problem here? Having everyone pay for their own consumption seems
> both obvious and fair. I don't want to pay for their meals, and I
> don't want them to pay for mine. It's simple, get the bill, put
> initials on the entries, note who paid and leave. That's it. Neither
> haggling, dividing by N or throwing money at cars, are involved.
Not a .nl or .ch suffix in sight either...
Dave
>
> I've read this thread and I'm as confused as when I started. What is
> the problem here? Having everyone pay for their own consumption seems
> both obvious and fair. I don't want to pay for their meals, and I
> don't want them to pay for mine. It's simple, get the bill, put
> initials on the entries, note who paid and leave. That's it. Neither
> haggling, dividing by N or throwing money at cars, are involved.
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Miguel Cruz wrote:
>
>
> - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with your
> friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner and be
> done with it.
>
> Doing all this accounting and sending everyone bills in the mail and turning
> them over to collection services after 30 days makes a friendly evening
> into a business transaction.
I agree! I often go to restaurants with friends whose expenditures are
strictly budgeted (most "retirement" incomes are fixed, alas).
Consequently each keeps track of the approximate cost of their meal and
puts that (plus their estimated share of tax and tip) on the table when
the bill comes. "Fixed income" or not, the waiter usually ends up with
a larger tip than he/she might otherwise have received, because everyone
overestimates a bit.
>
>
> - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with your
> friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner and be
> done with it.
>
> Doing all this accounting and sending everyone bills in the mail and turning
> them over to collection services after 30 days makes a friendly evening
> into a business transaction.
I agree! I often go to restaurants with friends whose expenditures are
strictly budgeted (most "retirement" incomes are fixed, alas).
Consequently each keeps track of the approximate cost of their meal and
puts that (plus their estimated share of tax and tip) on the table when
the bill comes. "Fixed income" or not, the waiter usually ends up with
a larger tip than he/she might otherwise have received, because everyone
overestimates a bit.
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"Miss L.Toe" wrote:
>
> >
> > Also, in the same way that it's pleasant to pick up the bar tab with a
> group
> > of friends, knowing that (A) you've saved them the trouble and lightened
> > their load, if only for a short time, and (B) over the long run it'll all
> > even out anyway - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with your
> > friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner and
> be
> > done with it.
> >
> > Doing all this accounting and sending everyone bills in the mail and
> turning
> > them over to collection services after 30 days makes a friendly evening
> > into a business transaction.
> >
>
> No - doing it for a business transaction you just charge it back to the
> expense account - much more civilised :-)
Of course, if you HAVE an "expense account" to charge it back to!
However in the U.S. the IRS can be rather nasty if they think
your "entertainment" amounts are excessive. (Not only are you expected
to detail the entertainees and the business discussed, but they only
allow you to claim fifty percent of "meals and entertainment" as a
deductible expense.)
>
> >
> > Also, in the same way that it's pleasant to pick up the bar tab with a
> group
> > of friends, knowing that (A) you've saved them the trouble and lightened
> > their load, if only for a short time, and (B) over the long run it'll all
> > even out anyway - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with your
> > friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner and
> be
> > done with it.
> >
> > Doing all this accounting and sending everyone bills in the mail and
> turning
> > them over to collection services after 30 days makes a friendly evening
> > into a business transaction.
> >
>
> No - doing it for a business transaction you just charge it back to the
> expense account - much more civilised :-)
Of course, if you HAVE an "expense account" to charge it back to!
However in the U.S. the IRS can be rather nasty if they think
your "entertainment" amounts are excessive. (Not only are you expected
to detail the entertainees and the business discussed, but they only
allow you to claim fifty percent of "meals and entertainment" as a
deductible expense.)
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
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> "Miss L.Toe" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Also, in the same way that it's pleasant to pick up the bar tab with a
> > group
> > > of friends, knowing that (A) you've saved them the trouble and
lightened
> > > their load, if only for a short time, and (B) over the long run it'll
all
> > > even out anyway - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with
your
> > > friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner
and
> > be
> > > done with it.
> > >
> > > Doing all this accounting and sending everyone bills in the mail and
> > turning
> > > them over to collection services after 30 days makes a friendly
evening
> > > into a business transaction.
> > >
> >
> > No - doing it for a business transaction you just charge it back to the
> > expense account - much more civilised :-)
> Of course, if you HAVE an "expense account" to charge it back to!
> However in the U.S. the IRS can be rather nasty if they think
> your "entertainment" amounts are excessive. (Not only are you expected
> to detail the entertainees and the business discussed, but they only
> allow you to claim fifty percent of "meals and entertainment" as a
> deductible expense.)
Nasty people :-(
I heard that in French you used to get taxed at 10 Francs on every business
meal.That sounds fair enough is probably what you saved by not eating at
home.
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> "Miss L.Toe" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Also, in the same way that it's pleasant to pick up the bar tab with a
> > group
> > > of friends, knowing that (A) you've saved them the trouble and
lightened
> > > their load, if only for a short time, and (B) over the long run it'll
all
> > > even out anyway - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with
your
> > > friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner
and
> > be
> > > done with it.
> > >
> > > Doing all this accounting and sending everyone bills in the mail and
> > turning
> > > them over to collection services after 30 days makes a friendly
evening
> > > into a business transaction.
> > >
> >
> > No - doing it for a business transaction you just charge it back to the
> > expense account - much more civilised :-)
> Of course, if you HAVE an "expense account" to charge it back to!
> However in the U.S. the IRS can be rather nasty if they think
> your "entertainment" amounts are excessive. (Not only are you expected
> to detail the entertainees and the business discussed, but they only
> allow you to claim fifty percent of "meals and entertainment" as a
> deductible expense.)
Nasty people :-(
I heard that in French you used to get taxed at 10 Francs on every business
meal.That sounds fair enough is probably what you saved by not eating at
home.
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Well I suppose it all depends on the numbers of people involved and
the personalities, and your method certainly sounds better than those
embarrassing arguments over who had the starter, which was the image I
had in mind when the original problem was put.
But most of the people I know - and I - would trust friiends with a
bit of flexilbility, particularly over restaurant meals, for instance,
rather than account for every last detail.
PJW
On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:36:26 GMT, [email protected] (Jesper
Lauridsen) wrote:
>I've read this thread and I'm as confused as when I started. What is
>the problem here? Having everyone pay for their own consumption seems
>both obvious and fair. I don't want to pay for their meals, and I
>don't want them to pay for mine. It's simple, get the bill, put
>initials on the entries, note who paid and leave. That's it. Neither
>haggling, dividing by N or throwing money at cars, are involved.
the personalities, and your method certainly sounds better than those
embarrassing arguments over who had the starter, which was the image I
had in mind when the original problem was put.
But most of the people I know - and I - would trust friiends with a
bit of flexilbility, particularly over restaurant meals, for instance,
rather than account for every last detail.
PJW
On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:36:26 GMT, [email protected] (Jesper
Lauridsen) wrote:
>I've read this thread and I'm as confused as when I started. What is
>the problem here? Having everyone pay for their own consumption seems
>both obvious and fair. I don't want to pay for their meals, and I
>don't want them to pay for mine. It's simple, get the bill, put
>initials on the entries, note who paid and leave. That's it. Neither
>haggling, dividing by N or throwing money at cars, are involved.
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Don't understand "moochers". Also are the ones being fussy in your post: the
ones adding up, or those decrying such practice ?
Dave
> I take your point, but it has also been my experience that those who
> make the most fuss about keeping track tend to be the moochers.
ones adding up, or those decrying such practice ?
Dave
> I take your point, but it has also been my experience that those who
> make the most fuss about keeping track tend to be the moochers.
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On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 06:27:32 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
>> I've read this thread and I'm as confused as when I started. What is
>> the problem here? Having everyone pay for their own consumption seems
>> both obvious and fair. I don't want to pay for their meals, and I
>> don't want them to pay for mine. It's simple, get the bill, put
>> initials on the entries, note who paid and leave. That's it. Neither
>> haggling, dividing by N or throwing money at cars, are involved.
>The time spent on all this recordkeeping could often be spent more
>producively working a part-time job at McDonald's or something - earning
>more money than the potential discrepancy from a faulty on-the-scene
>estimate.
At my taxbracket working at McDonalds would earn me very little after
tax, even if I could use the interval between the waiter placing the bill
on the table, and the bill being paid, for that purpose.
As for how much money is involved. Looking at the result from my trip
around the Alps, the 5 days in Switzerland had a difference of 90 CHF
for meals, between the biggest and the smallest eater.
>Also, in the same way that it's pleasant to pick up the bar tab with a group
>of friends, knowing that (A) you've saved them the trouble and lightened
>their load, if only for a short time, and (B) over the long run it'll all
>even out anyway - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with your
>friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner and be
>done with it.
Trust has nothing to do with it. I don't want to take money from my
friends and they don't want to take money from me. This way we get
a fair result. It's also convenient - if you have too much of the
relevant currency, you pay. If you're low on the currency, and don't
want to make another withdrawel, you let someone else pay.
Same system is used when paying for hotels, flights whatever.
>Doing all this accounting and sending everyone bills in the mail and turning
>them over to collection services after 30 days makes a friendly evening
>into a business transaction.
It would help if you would read with an open mind.
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>Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
>> I've read this thread and I'm as confused as when I started. What is
>> the problem here? Having everyone pay for their own consumption seems
>> both obvious and fair. I don't want to pay for their meals, and I
>> don't want them to pay for mine. It's simple, get the bill, put
>> initials on the entries, note who paid and leave. That's it. Neither
>> haggling, dividing by N or throwing money at cars, are involved.
>The time spent on all this recordkeeping could often be spent more
>producively working a part-time job at McDonald's or something - earning
>more money than the potential discrepancy from a faulty on-the-scene
>estimate.
At my taxbracket working at McDonalds would earn me very little after
tax, even if I could use the interval between the waiter placing the bill
on the table, and the bill being paid, for that purpose.
As for how much money is involved. Looking at the result from my trip
around the Alps, the 5 days in Switzerland had a difference of 90 CHF
for meals, between the biggest and the smallest eater.
>Also, in the same way that it's pleasant to pick up the bar tab with a group
>of friends, knowing that (A) you've saved them the trouble and lightened
>their load, if only for a short time, and (B) over the long run it'll all
>even out anyway - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with your
>friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner and be
>done with it.
Trust has nothing to do with it. I don't want to take money from my
friends and they don't want to take money from me. This way we get
a fair result. It's also convenient - if you have too much of the
relevant currency, you pay. If you're low on the currency, and don't
want to make another withdrawel, you let someone else pay.
Same system is used when paying for hotels, flights whatever.
>Doing all this accounting and sending everyone bills in the mail and turning
>them over to collection services after 30 days makes a friendly evening
>into a business transaction.
It would help if you would read with an open mind.
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[email protected] (Jesper Lauridsen) wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 06:27:32 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
> >Also, in the same way that it's pleasant to pick up the bar tab with a
> group
> >of friends, knowing that (A) you've saved them the trouble and
> lightened
> >their load, if only for a short time, and (B) over the long run it'll
> all
> >even out anyway - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with
> your
> >friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner
> and be
> >done with it.
>
> Trust has nothing to do with it. I don't want to take money from my
> friends and they don't want to take money from me. This way we get
> a fair result. It's also convenient - if you have too much of the
> relevant currency, you pay. If you're low on the currency, and don't
> want to make another withdrawel, you let someone else pay.
The group of friends with which I regularly travel decided, after trying
many different solutions (from detailed book-keeping to random
generosity), that the easiest route is to nominate a "banker" -- usually
me. (I also insist on being the banker in Monopoly: maybe I missed my
vocation.)
At the start of the trip, everyone puts in 100 euro cash (or rough
equivalent outside the eurozone). The banker then pays for all joint
expenses like meals, hotels, gas, admission tickets. When they run out of
cash, they get another 100 from everyone, and at the end of the trip they
divide the residue equally. So far, it's worked argument-free.
[email protected] (Jesper Lauridsen) wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 06:27:32 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
> >Also, in the same way that it's pleasant to pick up the bar tab with a
> group
> >of friends, knowing that (A) you've saved them the trouble and
> lightened
> >their load, if only for a short time, and (B) over the long run it'll
> all
> >even out anyway - it's also nice to have the trust and comfort with
> your
> >friends to put a reasonable amount on the table at the end of dinner
> and be
> >done with it.
>
> Trust has nothing to do with it. I don't want to take money from my
> friends and they don't want to take money from me. This way we get
> a fair result. It's also convenient - if you have too much of the
> relevant currency, you pay. If you're low on the currency, and don't
> want to make another withdrawel, you let someone else pay.
The group of friends with which I regularly travel decided, after trying
many different solutions (from detailed book-keeping to random
generosity), that the easiest route is to nominate a "banker" -- usually
me. (I also insist on being the banker in Monopoly: maybe I missed my
vocation.)
At the start of the trip, everyone puts in 100 euro cash (or rough
equivalent outside the eurozone). The banker then pays for all joint
expenses like meals, hotels, gas, admission tickets. When they run out of
cash, they get another 100 from everyone, and at the end of the trip they
divide the residue equally. So far, it's worked argument-free.



