Americans in Europe
Mar 10th 2004, 11:30 am
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Re: Americans in Europe
Juliana L Holm wrote:
> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Juliana L Holm writes:
> >> And for Americans who view any European Television at all, Europe is England.
> > I don't think that Americans perceive England as part of Europe (neither
> > do many people in England, for that matter). "Europe" means the other
> > countries where English is not spoken. England is a special case.
> Hmm. I disagree.
> I think many people think of England as being in Europe.
Count me in. It's a long way across the ocean from here to Europe and England,
except for a few measly miles of water is pretty much a part of it.
> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Juliana L Holm writes:
> >> And for Americans who view any European Television at all, Europe is England.
> > I don't think that Americans perceive England as part of Europe (neither
> > do many people in England, for that matter). "Europe" means the other
> > countries where English is not spoken. England is a special case.
> Hmm. I disagree.
> I think many people think of England as being in Europe.
Count me in. It's a long way across the ocean from here to Europe and England,
except for a few measly miles of water is pretty much a part of it.
Mar 10th 2004, 11:43 am
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Re: Americans in Europe
it was not plain text. rich text != plaintext.
"devil" <[email protected]> wrote in message news
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> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:21:54 +0000, nick wrote:
> > well this post needs a Korean language pack in OE. I assume its html.
> Her post was plain text.
> As Dave mentioned, she accidentally specified a Korean character set in
> the content-type header:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR
> But since she didn't really use any Korean character in her article, it
> should have been fine. Sounds like your newsreader must be seriously
> brain-damaged? Let me guess, some microsoft stuff maybe?
"devil" <[email protected]> wrote in message news
[email protected]...> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:21:54 +0000, nick wrote:
> > well this post needs a Korean language pack in OE. I assume its html.
> Her post was plain text.
> As Dave mentioned, she accidentally specified a Korean character set in
> the content-type header:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR
> But since she didn't really use any Korean character in her article, it
> should have been fine. Sounds like your newsreader must be seriously
> brain-damaged? Let me guess, some microsoft stuff maybe?
Mar 10th 2004, 11:52 am
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 00:43:21 +0000, nick wrote:
> it was not plain text. rich text != plaintext.
It was *plain* text. See the header: text/plain. Rich text is some
nonstandard Microsoft crap that does not go into Usenet. Certainly not in
her article anyway.
> "devil" <[email protected]> wrote in message news[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:21:54 +0000, nick wrote:
>> > well this post needs a Korean language pack in OE. I assume its html.
>> Her post was plain text.
>> As Dave mentioned, she accidentally specified a Korean character set in
>> the content-type header:
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR
>> But since she didn't really use any Korean character in her article, it
>> should have been fine. Sounds like your newsreader must be seriously
>> brain-damaged? Let me guess, some microsoft stuff maybe?
> it was not plain text. rich text != plaintext.
It was *plain* text. See the header: text/plain. Rich text is some
nonstandard Microsoft crap that does not go into Usenet. Certainly not in
her article anyway.
> "devil" <[email protected]> wrote in message news
[email protected]...>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:21:54 +0000, nick wrote:
>> > well this post needs a Korean language pack in OE. I assume its html.
>> Her post was plain text.
>> As Dave mentioned, she accidentally specified a Korean character set in
>> the content-type header:
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR
>> But since she didn't really use any Korean character in her article, it
>> should have been fine. Sounds like your newsreader must be seriously
>> brain-damaged? Let me guess, some microsoft stuff maybe?
Mar 10th 2004, 12:16 pm
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Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
>I think many people think of England as being in Europe.
But many don't, including quite a few English people, notably some
politicians and newspaper editors. Oh, and the BNP, who seem to find
difficulty in recognising Scotland as part of Britain (in that, they
have something in common with the SNP).
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>I think many people think of England as being in Europe.
But many don't, including quite a few English people, notably some
politicians and newspaper editors. Oh, and the BNP, who seem to find
difficulty in recognising Scotland as part of Britain (in that, they
have something in common with the SNP).
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Mar 10th 2004, 12:35 pm
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:46:02 -0700, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
>But it was never clear what Ozzie's occupation was on the
>programs.
He had the same job as Ward Cleaver.
Gordon
>But it was never clear what Ozzie's occupation was on the
>programs.
He had the same job as Ward Cleaver.
Gordon
Mar 10th 2004, 3:32 pm
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Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
> Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I think many people think of England as being in Europe.
> But many don't, including quite a few English people, notably some
> politicians and newspaper editors. Oh, and the BNP, who seem to find
> difficulty in recognising Scotland as part of Britain (in that, they
> have something in common with the SNP).
My bad. I meant to say I think many Americans think of England as being in
Europe. I agree many people in other parts of the world (like, um,
continental Europe, do not. I was only meaning to say that is a typical
American point of view.
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> Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I think many people think of England as being in Europe.
> But many don't, including quite a few English people, notably some
> politicians and newspaper editors. Oh, and the BNP, who seem to find
> difficulty in recognising Scotland as part of Britain (in that, they
> have something in common with the SNP).
My bad. I meant to say I think many Americans think of England as being in
Europe. I agree many people in other parts of the world (like, um,
continental Europe, do not. I was only meaning to say that is a typical
American point of view.
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Mar 10th 2004, 4:24 pm
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Juliana L Holm writes:
> It is considered a very romantic city in the US.
Paris is considered a very romantic city by most of the world.
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> It is considered a very romantic city in the US.
Paris is considered a very romantic city by most of the world.
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Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
Mar 10th 2004, 6:25 pm
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> >> And for Americans who view any European Television at all, Europe is
England.
> > I don't think that Americans perceive England as part of Europe (neither
> > do many people in England, for that matter). "Europe" means the other
> > countries where English is not spoken. England is a special case.
> Hmm. I disagree.
> I think many people think of England as being in Europe.
But you also hear alot of English people saying things like 'We will be
doing Europe this summer'
England.
> > I don't think that Americans perceive England as part of Europe (neither
> > do many people in England, for that matter). "Europe" means the other
> > countries where English is not spoken. England is a special case.
> Hmm. I disagree.
> I think many people think of England as being in Europe.
But you also hear alot of English people saying things like 'We will be
doing Europe this summer'
Mar 10th 2004, 9:03 pm
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:04:24 +0000, Keith Anderson wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:34:21 GMT, devil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:28:05 +0000, Juliana L Holm wrote:
>>> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Juliana L Holm writes:
>>>
>>>>> And for Americans who view any European Television at all, Europe is England.
>>>
>>>> I don't think that Americans perceive England as part of Europe (neither
>>>> do many people in England, for that matter). "Europe" means the other
>>>> countries where English is not spoken. England is a special case.
>>>
>>> Hmm. I disagree.
>>>
>>> I think many people think of England as being in Europe.
>>Including even many Brits, I would think.
>
> As to those Brits who don't, I often wonder where they think they
> originate - outer space perhaps?
In Britain. Obviously.
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> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:34:21 GMT, devil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:28:05 +0000, Juliana L Holm wrote:
>>> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Juliana L Holm writes:
>>>
>>>>> And for Americans who view any European Television at all, Europe is England.
>>>
>>>> I don't think that Americans perceive England as part of Europe (neither
>>>> do many people in England, for that matter). "Europe" means the other
>>>> countries where English is not spoken. England is a special case.
>>>
>>> Hmm. I disagree.
>>>
>>> I think many people think of England as being in Europe.
>>Including even many Brits, I would think.
>
> As to those Brits who don't, I often wonder where they think they
> originate - outer space perhaps?
In Britain. Obviously.
--
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If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.
Mar 10th 2004, 9:04 pm
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:34:21 GMT, devil <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:28:05 +0000, Juliana L Holm wrote:
>> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Juliana L Holm writes:
>>
>>>> And for Americans who view any European Television at all, Europe is England.
>>
>>> I don't think that Americans perceive England as part of Europe (neither
>>> do many people in England, for that matter). "Europe" means the other
>>> countries where English is not spoken. England is a special case.
>>
>> Hmm. I disagree.
>>
>> I think many people think of England as being in Europe.
>Including even many Brits, I would think.
As to those Brits who don't, I often wonder where they think they
originate - outer space perhaps?
>On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:28:05 +0000, Juliana L Holm wrote:
>> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Juliana L Holm writes:
>>
>>>> And for Americans who view any European Television at all, Europe is England.
>>
>>> I don't think that Americans perceive England as part of Europe (neither
>>> do many people in England, for that matter). "Europe" means the other
>>> countries where English is not spoken. England is a special case.
>>
>> Hmm. I disagree.
>>
>> I think many people think of England as being in Europe.
>Including even many Brits, I would think.
As to those Brits who don't, I often wonder where they think they
originate - outer space perhaps?
Mar 10th 2004, 9:11 pm
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On 10 Mar 2004 15:41:55 GMT, Juliana L Holm wrote:
> New York and the Grand Canyon at least, are two of the highlights of this
> country, although judging the United States by that would be like judging
> Europe by Paris and the Alps. Think of how much you would miss.
The four hours I spent in New York were four hours too many. The view from
the top of the WTC was impressive though, and the mounted policemen were a
nice touch. That's about it.
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be so simple that we couldn't.
> New York and the Grand Canyon at least, are two of the highlights of this
> country, although judging the United States by that would be like judging
> Europe by Paris and the Alps. Think of how much you would miss.
The four hours I spent in New York were four hours too many. The view from
the top of the WTC was impressive though, and the mounted policemen were a
nice touch. That's about it.
--
Tim.
If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.
Mar 10th 2004, 9:16 pm
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 06:24:50 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
> Juliana L Holm writes:
>
>> It is considered a very romantic city in the US.
>
> Paris is considered a very romantic city by most of the world.
Except by those who have been there.
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be so simple that we couldn't.
> Juliana L Holm writes:
>
>> It is considered a very romantic city in the US.
>
> Paris is considered a very romantic city by most of the world.
Except by those who have been there.
--
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If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.
Mar 10th 2004, 11:43 pm
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"devil" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 00:43:21 +0000, nick wrote:
> > it was not plain text. rich text != plaintext.
> It was *plain* text. See the header: text/plain. Rich text is some
> nonstandard Microsoft crap that does not go into Usenet. Certainly not in
> her article anyway.
What do you mean by that? RTF is not non standard and it ports into a great
number of platforms and it is perfectly posssible to send whatever crap in
whatever format into the Usenet. And some of her texts WERE sent as
formatted.
news
[email protected]...> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 00:43:21 +0000, nick wrote:
> > it was not plain text. rich text != plaintext.
> It was *plain* text. See the header: text/plain. Rich text is some
> nonstandard Microsoft crap that does not go into Usenet. Certainly not in
> her article anyway.
What do you mean by that? RTF is not non standard and it ports into a great
number of platforms and it is perfectly posssible to send whatever crap in
whatever format into the Usenet. And some of her texts WERE sent as
formatted.
Mar 11th 2004, 12:49 am
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Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
>Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>I think many people think of England as being in Europe.
>> But many don't, including quite a few English people, notably some
>> politicians and newspaper editors. Oh, and the BNP, who seem to find
>> difficulty in recognising Scotland as part of Britain (in that, they
>> have something in common with the SNP).
>My bad. I meant to say I think many Americans think of England as being in
>Europe. I agree many people in other parts of the world (like, um,
>continental Europe, do not. I was only meaning to say that is a typical
>American point of view.
I understood you as did, I think, most participants here. But you did
present an opportunity to play with ideas, and some of us cannot
resist that.
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>Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>I think many people think of England as being in Europe.
>> But many don't, including quite a few English people, notably some
>> politicians and newspaper editors. Oh, and the BNP, who seem to find
>> difficulty in recognising Scotland as part of Britain (in that, they
>> have something in common with the SNP).
>My bad. I meant to say I think many Americans think of England as being in
>Europe. I agree many people in other parts of the world (like, um,
>continental Europe, do not. I was only meaning to say that is a typical
>American point of view.
I understood you as did, I think, most participants here. But you did
present an opportunity to play with ideas, and some of us cannot
resist that.
--
PB
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Mar 11th 2004, 1:09 am
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Re: Americans in Europe
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 06:24:50 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... Juliana L Holm writes:
...
... > It is considered a very romantic city in the US.
...
... Paris is considered a very romantic city by most of the world.
By those who have chosen to live there ! :-)
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... Juliana L Holm writes:
...
... > It is considered a very romantic city in the US.
...
... Paris is considered a very romantic city by most of the world.
By those who have chosen to live there ! :-)
