Americans in Europe
Mar 9th 2004, 11:06 pm
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Re: Americans in Europe
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:13:34 -0000, nick wrote:
> Conversation I overheard in Prague last week. This American just arrived in Prague
> and his first port of call is Joe's Bar in Mala Strana (ex-pat hangout). Anyway this is what I heard
> 'Just did Prague, heading to Budapest tomorrow'
Was he on the usual "15 countries in 15 hours" tour?
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> Conversation I overheard in Prague last week. This American just arrived in Prague
> and his first port of call is Joe's Bar in Mala Strana (ex-pat hangout). Anyway this is what I heard
> 'Just did Prague, heading to Budapest tomorrow'
Was he on the usual "15 countries in 15 hours" tour?
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Mar 9th 2004, 11:13 pm
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Americans in Europe
Conversation I overheard in Prague last week. This American just arrived in Prague
and his first port of call is Joe's Bar in Mala Strana (ex-pat hangout). Anyway this is what I heard
'Just did Prague, heading to Budapest tomorrow'
and his first port of call is Joe's Bar in Mala Strana (ex-pat hangout). Anyway this is what I heard
'Just did Prague, heading to Budapest tomorrow'
Mar 9th 2004, 11:34 pm
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Re: Americans in Europe
nick quoted an American in Europe:
> 'Just did Prague, heading to Budapest tomorrow'
In 1920, the German author Kurt Tucholsky wrote that some typical words
of Americans in Europe were
| Nach Börlin besuchen wir noch Europa, Persien und Heidelberg
(After Berlin, we will also visit Europe, Persia and Heidelberg)
Persia wouldn't be pc these days, though.
Jens
> 'Just did Prague, heading to Budapest tomorrow'
In 1920, the German author Kurt Tucholsky wrote that some typical words
of Americans in Europe were
| Nach Börlin besuchen wir noch Europa, Persien und Heidelberg
(After Berlin, we will also visit Europe, Persia and Heidelberg)
Persia wouldn't be pc these days, though.
Jens
Mar 10th 2004, 2:07 am
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:34:41 +0100, Jens Arne Maennig
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In 1920, the German author Kurt Tucholsky wrote that some typical words
>of Americans in Europe were
>| Nach Börlin besuchen wir noch Europa, Persien und Heidelberg
>(After Berlin, we will also visit Europe, Persia and Heidelberg)
Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
(New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
in two weeks.
Gordon
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In 1920, the German author Kurt Tucholsky wrote that some typical words
>of Americans in Europe were
>| Nach Börlin besuchen wir noch Europa, Persien und Heidelberg
>(After Berlin, we will also visit Europe, Persia and Heidelberg)
Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
(New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
in two weeks.
Gordon
Mar 10th 2004, 2:26 am
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Gordon Forbess wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:34:41 +0100, Jens Arne Maennig
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>In 1920, the German author Kurt Tucholsky wrote that some typical words
>>of Americans in Europe were
>>| Nach Börlin besuchen wir noch Europa, Persien und Heidelberg
>>(After Berlin, we will also visit Europe, Persia and Heidelberg)
>
> Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
> (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
> in two weeks.
Actually, I've been to all of the above :-)
Jens
PS: To most of them not voluntarily, however.
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:34:41 +0100, Jens Arne Maennig
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>In 1920, the German author Kurt Tucholsky wrote that some typical words
>>of Americans in Europe were
>>| Nach Börlin besuchen wir noch Europa, Persien und Heidelberg
>>(After Berlin, we will also visit Europe, Persia and Heidelberg)
>
> Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
> (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
> in two weeks.
Actually, I've been to all of the above :-)
Jens
PS: To most of them not voluntarily, however.
Mar 10th 2004, 2:41 am
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Gordon Forbess <[email protected]> wrote:
> Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
> (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
> in two weeks.
New York and the Grand Canyon at least, are two of the highlights of this
country, although judging the United States by that would be like judging
Europe by Paris and the Alps. Think of how much you would miss.
I know I cannot "see" Europe in two weeks, nonetheless I have taken two week
trips to Europe. I suspect most Europeans either know that about the US or
learn it.
Julie
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> Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
> (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
> in two weeks.
New York and the Grand Canyon at least, are two of the highlights of this
country, although judging the United States by that would be like judging
Europe by Paris and the Alps. Think of how much you would miss.
I know I cannot "see" Europe in two weeks, nonetheless I have taken two week
trips to Europe. I suspect most Europeans either know that about the US or
learn it.
Julie
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Mar 10th 2004, 2:52 am
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"Juliana L Holm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Gordon Forbess <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
> > (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
> > in two weeks.
> New York and the Grand Canyon at least, are two of the highlights of this
> country, although judging the United States by that would be like judging
> Europe by Paris and the Alps. Think of how much you would miss.
I know this is a matter of taste but in my rankings Paris certainly is not
in the list of top 10 of the most enthralling European cities. Naturally a
city can be seen dull at one moment and exciting at another moment by one
and the same person. I have experienced this.
news:[email protected]...
> Gordon Forbess <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
> > (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
> > in two weeks.
> New York and the Grand Canyon at least, are two of the highlights of this
> country, although judging the United States by that would be like judging
> Europe by Paris and the Alps. Think of how much you would miss.
I know this is a matter of taste but in my rankings Paris certainly is not
in the list of top 10 of the most enthralling European cities. Naturally a
city can be seen dull at one moment and exciting at another moment by one
and the same person. I have experienced this.
Mar 10th 2004, 3:02 am
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"Markku Grönroos" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> New York and the Grand Canyon at least, are two of the highlights of this
>> country, although judging the United States by that would be like judging
>> Europe by Paris and the Alps. Think of how much you would miss.
> I know this is a matter of taste but in my rankings Paris certainly is not
> in the list of top 10 of the most enthralling European cities. Naturally a
> city can be seen dull at one moment and exciting at another moment by one
> and the same person. I have experienced this.
No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?
But we're comparing Europeans who have never been to the US to Americans who
have never been to Europe. So I think listing Paris is a good example.
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>> New York and the Grand Canyon at least, are two of the highlights of this
>> country, although judging the United States by that would be like judging
>> Europe by Paris and the Alps. Think of how much you would miss.
> I know this is a matter of taste but in my rankings Paris certainly is not
> in the list of top 10 of the most enthralling European cities. Naturally a
> city can be seen dull at one moment and exciting at another moment by one
> and the same person. I have experienced this.
No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?
But we're comparing Europeans who have never been to the US to Americans who
have never been to Europe. So I think listing Paris is a good example.
Julie
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Mar 10th 2004, 3:57 am
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please stop using html with Korean(?!) tags
"Juliana L Holm" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Markku Gr?roos" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> New York and the Grand Canyon at least, are two of the highlights of this
> >> country, although judging the United States by that would be like judging
> >> Europe by Paris and the Alps. Think of how much you would miss.
> >>
> > I know this is a matter of taste but in my rankings Paris certainly is not
> > in the list of top 10 of the most enthralling European cities. Naturally a
> > city can be seen dull at one moment and exciting at another moment by one
> > and the same person. I have experienced this.
> No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
> never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
> Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?
> But we're comparing Europeans who have never been to the US to Americans who
> have never been to Europe. So I think listing Paris is a good example.
> Julie
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"Juliana L Holm" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Markku Gr?roos" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> New York and the Grand Canyon at least, are two of the highlights of this
> >> country, although judging the United States by that would be like judging
> >> Europe by Paris and the Alps. Think of how much you would miss.
> >>
> > I know this is a matter of taste but in my rankings Paris certainly is not
> > in the list of top 10 of the most enthralling European cities. Naturally a
> > city can be seen dull at one moment and exciting at another moment by one
> > and the same person. I have experienced this.
> No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
> never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
> Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?
> But we're comparing Europeans who have never been to the US to Americans who
> have never been to Europe. So I think listing Paris is a good example.
> Julie
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Mar 10th 2004, 4:18 am
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I am not using html with Korean tags. I'm using plain text. I'm posting from
tin and cannot use html. Must be some mistake here.
Julie
nick <[email protected]> wrote:
> please stop using html with Korean(?!) tags
> "Juliana L Holm" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> "Markku Gr?roos" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> New York and the Grand Canyon at least, are two of the highlights of this
>> >> country, although judging the United States by that would be like judging
>> >> Europe by Paris and the Alps. Think of how much you would miss.
>> >>
>> > I know this is a matter of taste but in my rankings Paris certainly is not
>> > in the list of top 10 of the most enthralling European cities. Naturally a
>> > city can be seen dull at one moment and exciting at another moment by one
>> > and the same person. I have experienced this.
>> No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
>> never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
>> Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?
>> But we're comparing Europeans who have never been to the US to Americans who
>> have never been to Europe. So I think listing Paris is a good example.
>> Julie
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tin and cannot use html. Must be some mistake here.
Julie
nick <[email protected]> wrote:
> please stop using html with Korean(?!) tags
> "Juliana L Holm" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> "Markku Gr?roos" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> New York and the Grand Canyon at least, are two of the highlights of this
>> >> country, although judging the United States by that would be like judging
>> >> Europe by Paris and the Alps. Think of how much you would miss.
>> >>
>> > I know this is a matter of taste but in my rankings Paris certainly is not
>> > in the list of top 10 of the most enthralling European cities. Naturally a
>> > city can be seen dull at one moment and exciting at another moment by one
>> > and the same person. I have experienced this.
>> No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
>> never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
>> Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?
>> But we're comparing Europeans who have never been to the US to Americans who
>> have never been to Europe. So I think listing Paris is a good example.
>> Julie
>> --
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>> Check out my Travel Pages (non-commercial) at
>> http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm
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Mar 10th 2004, 4:29 am
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Gordon Forbess writes:
> Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
> (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
> in two weeks.
For anyone raised on U.S. television programs, that _is_ the U.S.
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> Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
> (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
> in two weeks.
For anyone raised on U.S. television programs, that _is_ the U.S.
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Mar 10th 2004, 4:40 am
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> For anyone raised on U.S. television programs, that _is_ the U.S.
And for Americans who view any European Television at all, Europe is England.
There are misunderstandings in both directions. That's the point.
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> For anyone raised on U.S. television programs, that _is_ the U.S.
And for Americans who view any European Television at all, Europe is England.
There are misunderstandings in both directions. That's the point.
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Mar 10th 2004, 5:43 am
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On 10 Mar 2004 16:02:14 GMT, Juliana L Holm <[email protected]>
wrote:
>No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
>never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
>Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?
Freiburg? In Baden Wurthemberg? Are you sure this is a top
destination? I was there during 4 hours and got bored with nothing to
see. Did I miss it all?
wrote:
>No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
>never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
>Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?
Freiburg? In Baden Wurthemberg? Are you sure this is a top
destination? I was there during 4 hours and got bored with nothing to
see. Did I miss it all?
Mar 10th 2004, 6:00 am
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pmlt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
>>never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
>>Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?
> Freiburg? In Baden Wurthemberg? Are you sure this is a top
> destination? I was there during 4 hours and got bored with nothing to
> see. Did I miss it all?
Goodness not a top destination. Just a very interesting one that most Americans
have never heard of. I'm sorry I was not more clear on that. I meant to
say I'd list several other interesting cities, not necessarily top cities.
Top cities most Americans have heard of. :-)
To keep up the comparison, Freiburg is probably comparable to, say, Hmmmm,
Charleston SC. An interesting city, but I bet few Europeans have heard of
it. Or Santa Fe, NM.
Sorry for being confusing.
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>>No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
>>never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
>>Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?
> Freiburg? In Baden Wurthemberg? Are you sure this is a top
> destination? I was there during 4 hours and got bored with nothing to
> see. Did I miss it all?
Goodness not a top destination. Just a very interesting one that most Americans
have never heard of. I'm sorry I was not more clear on that. I meant to
say I'd list several other interesting cities, not necessarily top cities.
Top cities most Americans have heard of. :-)
To keep up the comparison, Freiburg is probably comparable to, say, Hmmmm,
Charleston SC. An interesting city, but I bet few Europeans have heard of
it. Or Santa Fe, NM.
Sorry for being confusing.
Julie
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Mar 10th 2004, 6:21 am
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well this post needs a Korean language pack in OE. I assume its html.
"Juliana L Holm" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Markku Gr?roos" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> New York and the Grand Canyon at least, are two of the highlights of this
> >> country, although judging the United States by that would be like judging
> >> Europe by Paris and the Alps. Think of how much you would miss.
> >>
> > I know this is a matter of taste but in my rankings Paris certainly is not
> > in the list of top 10 of the most enthralling European cities. Naturally a
> > city can be seen dull at one moment and exciting at another moment by one
> > and the same person. I have experienced this.
> No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
> never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
> Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?
> But we're comparing Europeans who have never been to the US to Americans who
> have never been to Europe. So I think listing Paris is a good example.
> Julie
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"Juliana L Holm" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Markku Gr?roos" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> New York and the Grand Canyon at least, are two of the highlights of this
> >> country, although judging the United States by that would be like judging
> >> Europe by Paris and the Alps. Think of how much you would miss.
> >>
> > I know this is a matter of taste but in my rankings Paris certainly is not
> > in the list of top 10 of the most enthralling European cities. Naturally a
> > city can be seen dull at one moment and exciting at another moment by one
> > and the same person. I have experienced this.
> No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
> never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
> Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?
> But we're comparing Europeans who have never been to the US to Americans who
> have never been to Europe. So I think listing Paris is a good example.
> Julie
> --
> Julie
> **********
> Check out my Travel Pages (non-commercial) at
> http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm
